Discussion Conqueror's Haki Breakdown

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No you don't Luffy used Coc for the 1st time on a bull in a situation they had under control. Besides if Zoro has Coc he should've achieved during his training with Mihawk. Also why do you always bring Sanji into the conversation when people talk about Zoro?
That is oozing out, not will full force, we fully knew about it when it came in Amazon Lily.

Cause duh, Sanji has traits of possibly having it just like them even a bit more than Zoro. Both have potential COC if you look at list of COC and what they have in common on themselves.
 

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That is oozing out, not will full force, we fully knew about it when it came in Amazon Lily.

Cause duh, Sanji has traits of possibly having it just like them even a bit more than Zoro. Both have potential COC if you look at list of COC and what they have in common on themselves.
Oda already explained Zoro leaking Aura. It's not Conquerors Haki at all. It's called Sakki, aka killi g intent.

Mihawk also does not have CoC. This is in the Vivre Card Databook.
 

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Oda already explained Zoro leaking Aura. It's not Conquerors Haki at all. It's called Sakki, aka killi g intent.

Mihawk also does not have CoC. This is in the Vivre Card Databook.
Just saying it isn't farfetched to unlock later. I am aware it is his Aura to 'Kill' that does it.
 

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Interesting that the only person to master Enma was a CoC user. I also think Ryuma will have CoC.
 

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Oda already explained Zoro leaking Aura. It's not Conquerors Haki at all. It's called Sakki, aka killi g intent.

Mihawk also does not have CoC. This is in the Vivre Card Databook.
Are those vivre cards even trustworthy? Seems odd that Jack and Nekomamushi don't have haki at all, how would they deal with logias or something?
 

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Are those vivre cards even trustworthy? Seems odd that Jack and Nekomamushi don't have haki at all, how would they deal with logias or something?
If we go by the vivire cards than Roger and Dragon don't have CoC.
 

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Are those vivre cards even trustworthy? Seems odd that Jack and Nekomamushi don't have haki at all, how would they deal with logias or something?
It is not that they dont have it, it is just not revealed in vivre cards as Oda wants to keep that information hidden. They are trustworthy and sometimes reveal useful information. For example, they revealed Sengoku as CoC user, something that we might never get to see in the manga.
 

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Does anyone think Yamato could have COC given she is the child of Kaido? Would like it and she be 3rd/4th female to have it after Big Mom, Hancock, and Tsuru (Possiblity given she is often paired with Garp and Sengoku since their younger days)? Would like to see since she has shows promise as a fighter and her Haki is top-notch to handle Luffy's power even to an extent.
 
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It's entirely possible she is a conqueror's haki user though I'd stress the point that her current feats are irrelevant to whether she has it or not.
 

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It's entirely possible she is a conqueror's haki user though I'd stress the point that her current feats are irrelevant to whether she has it or not.
Well COC users are naturally strong fighters, so her being stronger fighter is a trait as well her infamous bloodline to add onto for her to potentially have it.
 

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As far as we know, lineage does nothing to determine who has CoC, it seems more coincidental (that family members have the ability) than anything else. I don't think it'd surprise anyone if she did though, in the NW there are bound to be plenty of characters who can use it.
 

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As far as we know, lineage does nothing to determine who has CoC, it seems more coincidental (that family members have the ability) than anything else. I don't think it'd surprise anyone if she did though, in the NW there are bound to be plenty of characters who can use it.
Kinda does as it help be one of the traits for many why they have COC as look at Luffy, Ace, Katakuri, etc. but that isn't only way to determine if you qualified as there are traits than just bloodline ot someone Royal or Infamous as it's also about their will and leadership traits as well power to boot. Also yeah, Oda did said through Chinjao that expect more people with that trait as their adventures get deeper, so it be more apparent as they face stronger enemies.
 

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Well COC users are naturally strong fighters, so her being stronger fighter is a trait as well her infamous bloodline to add onto for her to potentially have it.
I don't know if they're strong, but they're often charismatic/magnetic. Like, is there any CoC user who doesn't draw in people or invoke strong loyalty from his or her crew? Monet had no problem sacrificing her life on Doflamingo's orders, even, and Zoro was willing to give up his dream just for Luffy.

Makes me wonder now if Garp has CoC, and if all or most Ds do.
 

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I don't know if they're strong, but they're often charismatic/magnetic. Like, is there any CoC user who doesn't draw in people or invoke strong loyalty from his or her crew? Monet had no problem sacrificing her life on Doflamingo's orders, even, and Zoro was willing to give up his dream just for Luffy.

Makes me wonder now if Garp has CoC, and if all or most Ds do.
Pretty sure Garp does as being father and grandfather to Dragon and Luffy as well his rivals and friends Sengoku and possible Tsuru (Given she is put together with those 3 since their younger days) have it, then make sense for him along with Dragon to boot.

Also I agree with charismatic/magnetic vibe too as that is one of the major traits for it on why I said have leadership type of vibe.
 

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As far as we know only Luffy is confirmed to have haki from that lineage, it may be the case that Garp and Dragon just haven't been revealed. Sengoku is confirmed to have it; being the only marine officer. Which is why I said lineage doesn't guarantee CoC, otherwise all of Big Mom's children would have it.

Confirmed Ds that have it are Luffy, Ace and Roger( if that clash with WB is anything to go by).
 

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Pretty sure Garp does as being father and grandfather to Dragon and Luffy as well his rivals and friends Sengoku and possible Tsuru (Given she is put together with those 3 since their younger days) have it, then make sense for him along with Dragon to boot.

Also I agree with charismatic/magnetic vibe too as that is one of the major traits for it on why I said have leadership type of vibe.
Hm, I actually wasn't thinking about leadership, but that makes sense, actually. Rayleigh and Katakuri have CoC, and they've shown to be good leaders as well.

However, I'd theorize Garp and Dragon having CoC because of the type of people they are, not because of Luffy. Plus, they seem to be good leaders, or at least Dragon is, and they have loyalty of their crew.
As far as we know only Luffy is confirmed to have haki from that lineage, it may be the case that Garp and Dragon just haven't been revealed. Sengoku is confirmed to have it; being the only marine officer. Which is why I said lineage doesn't guarantee CoC, otherwise all of Big Mom's children would have it.

Confirmed Ds that have it are Luffy, Ace and Roger( if that clash with WB is anything to go by).
Probably more due to will, then? Was it said that everyone had the potential to use CoC or just a select few? I mean, we know Coby can't use CoC, but would he have the potential to do so? I think CoC is possible for everyone provided they meet the criteria of willpower and possibly charisma. I'm 100% sure Dragon has CoC, and I'm quite sure Garp does as well based solely on their personalities.
 

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Hm, I actually wasn't thinking about leadership, but that makes sense, actually. Rayleigh and Katakuri have CoC, and they've shown to be good leaders as well.

However, I'd theorize Garp and Dragon having CoC because of the type of people they are, not because of Luffy. Plus, they seem to be good leaders, or at least Dragon is, and they have loyalty of their crew.


Probably more due to will, then? Was it said that everyone had the potential to use CoC or just a select few? I mean, we know Coby can't use CoC, but would he have the potential to do so? I think CoC is possible for everyone provided they meet the criteria of willpower and possibly charisma. I'm 100% sure Dragon has CoC, and I'm quite sure Garp does as well based solely on their personalities.
That too and only make sense given hype on Garp and Dragon. Also yeah on Rayleigh and Katakuri as they can be good leaders which means we can probably expect more people in Luffy's crew to have it as same amount or more than Roger's crew. I can see Sanji and Zoro being candidates for it and possible of Usopp and Jimbei as well given traits they have around.
 

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Oda already explained Zoro leaking Aura. It's not Conquerors Haki at all. It's called Sakki, aka killi g intent.

Mihawk also does not have CoC. This is in the Vivre Card Databook.
Just pointing this out but we don't know about Mihawk. The Vivre Card confirms he has the other two types of haki but it doesn't confirm he doesn't have CoC.
It was the same for other characters for which it must remain unknown until we learn it from the manga itself.
 

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That too and only make sense given hype on Garp and Dragon. Also yeah on Rayleigh and Katakuri as they can be good leaders which means we can probably expect more people in Luffy's crew to have it as same amount or more than Roger's crew. I can see Sanji and Zoro being candidates for it and possible of Usopp and Jimbei as well given traits they have around.
I'm willing to bet Zoro and Sanji will get haki as well because they have willpower, especially Zoro. I feel that's another indicator or prerequisite to CoC. Plus, it'd be weird for first mates or so like Katakuri and Rayleigh to get CoC but not Zoro.
 

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I'm willing to bet Zoro and Sanji will get haki as well because they have willpower, especially Zoro. I feel that's another indicator or prerequisite to CoC. Plus, it'd be weird for first mates or so like Katakuri and Rayleigh to get CoC but not Zoro.
Obviously they get it given if Strawhats going to surpass the Roger Pirates eventuality, they have to be stronger and do more than them. Sanji and Zoro will unlock theirs, but then again on argument on first mates, we don't see Macro, King, or Ben Beckenman having it though, but could be shown later, but hard to say. I wouldn't use that always factor for first mate to have it as it's more the different traits on why they get it. Luffy will have total of 4 or 5 COCs under his belt given Roger have many under his being Rayleigh, Gaban (Possiblity given how Gaban shown traits of COC), Oden, Bullet, and Shanks. It be weird if Luffy remained only one to have it as I can respect Oda want to push Luffy on him being unique one to have it, but given what crew will later face and they building more notoriety, it workout to have more COCs in Strawhat crew in the end.
 
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