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Re: Rank the Shichibukai

Dont underestimate the power of "negating elements". Eneru would have been worth 500 mio berry +x but still was defeated by his "natural opponent" ruffy. Same goes for ruffys fight against croc, taking the circumstances. So like i said in my first post, ruffys fight against crocodile cant be taken as a real measure...at least thats what iam guessing for further developement
With Enel, Luffy was uniquely suited to take him on. Croc's weakness is something anyone can easily take advantage of. I don't think anyone would suggest that Luffy at the level he was when he defeated Croc would've stood a chance against Moriah. When Luffy first met up with Moriah, Moriah didn't even bother to take him on, he just let his shadow handle him, and that was multiple arcs after facing Crocodile. Croc was easily the weakest of the original Shichibukai, even with his logia. I expect him to be vastly improved upon his appearance, but I expect the same from Moriah with him returning to the pirate he once was.
 

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Re: Rank the Shichibukai

Well from original warlord.
I say.
Mihawk at top. Them DD
Are the 2 strongest.
 

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Re: Rank the Shichibukai

Are you talking about them individually or the crew?
 

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Re: Rank the Shichibukai

1 - Mihawk / Blackbeard
2 - Doflamingo / Hancock / Kuma
3 - Law / Crocodile / Jinbei / Moria
4 - Buggy

Mihawk and Blackbeard are definitely the strongest. I'm not sure which one would win, but I'm guessing it would be a tie, much like Shanks and Mihawk always tied. They are both Admiral / Yonkou level.
I'd put Kuma, Doflamingo, and Hancock next, since there hasn't been anything they haven't been able to handle yet. Those three haven't been taken down by anyone.
Doflamingo's beaten both Law and Moria, but wasn't willing to try fighting Aokiji. Crocodile and Moria lost to Luffy already. Jinbei is at a disadvantage when not at sea, and isn't quite admiral-level, since he couldn't stand up to Akainu. I think Moria is underestimated, and his bats easily impaled Oars Jr, just like Doflamingo easily cut off Oars Jr's leg. And Crocodile has a terrible weakness of water. And then Buggy... well, he's just comic relief.
 

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Re: Rank the Shichibukai

BB Is a yonkou not a shichibukai.
 

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Re: Rank the Shichibukai

He said current and FORMER shichibukai, so it doesn't matter what Blackbeard is now, he was a shichibukai at one point.
 

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Re: Rank the Shichibukai

BB Is a yonkou not a shichibukai.
Correct, but he used to be. The post included past shichibukai as well.
 

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Re: Rank the Shichibukai

1 - Mihawk
2 - Blackbeard
3 - Doflamingo
4 - Kuma
5 - Law
6 - Jinbei
7 - Crocodile
8 - hancock
9 - Moria
10 - buggy
 

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Re: Rank the Shichibukai

1 - Mihawk
2 - Doflamingo
3 - Kuma
4 - Blackbeard (pre-earthquake)
5 - Law
6 - Jinbei
7 - Crocodile
8 - hancock
9 - Moria
10 - buggy
 

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Re: Rank the Shichibukai

Buggy < Crocodile < Moriah < Hancock < Jinbei < Law < Kuma = Doflamingo = Mihawk = Blackbeard

Buggy is clear the weakest. Kuma, Dofla, Mihawk and BB are very strong. I can't imagine who's the stronger one of them.
 

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Re: Rank the Shichibukai

Please post more reasoning and arguments and not just lists with names.
 

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Re: Rank the Shichibukai

1 - Mihawk
*clearly younko level when hes serious since hes stronger then shanks.
2 - Doflamingo
*huge influence on the world, powerfull crew, and a strong DF ability
3 - Kuma
*Hax DF ability
4 - Blackbeard (pre-earthquake)
*strong DF ability, has defeated Ace.
5 - Law
*Hax DF ability
6 - Jinbei
*fishman karateee!!
7 - Crocodile
*strong well honed DF ability
8 - hancock
*powerfull DF and Haki
9 - Moria
*fat & lazy
10 - buggy
*powerfull luck and bluff.
 

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Re: Rank the Shichibukai

Blackbeard is clearly the strongest as he became Yonkou, although it's likely due to his crew.

Mihawk comes second because he's famous without a crew, which would show how strong he is. I don't think he'd be able to stand up to Blackbeard though.

Dunno if Jinbei is second or third, but I'll put him in third anyway. He and Luffy seemed to be matched enough while Luffy couldn't do a thing to Mihawk. Though by that logic, Mihawk goes above Blackbeard, but Blackbeard's two devil fruit power makes him look impossible to beat.

Dunno who seems to be stronger, but I'll put Kuma in fourth place because he's an officer in the Revolutionary Army who seems to go around by himself. He also did what no one else could do, utterly beat all the Straw Hats. He definitely belongs in the top five.

Doflamingo might be in fourth place, but I dunno. He hasn't shown anything that makes him stand out, apart from being able to beat Law and Sanji.

Boa's devil fruit power, her beauty, and her own skills make her very dangerous. She can turn anyone with lustful thoughts into stone, and if that doesn't work, she can certainly hold her own.

Crocodile is pretty strong, but not as strong if one has haki or knows his weakness, although Luffy was lucky every time.

Law, Moria, and Buggy haven't shown to be strong or as much of a threat. Law would be the strongest out of the trio though, thanks to his devil fruit power. Moria's power comes from zombies, and without them, he's no good. Buggy isn't feared, his followers are, hence why he became a shichibukai.
 

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Re: Rank the Shichibukai

Blackbeard is clearly the strongest as he became Yonkou, although it's likely due to his crew.

Mihawk comes second because he's famous without a crew, which would show how strong he is. I don't think he'd be able to stand up to Blackbeard though.

Dunno if Jinbei is second or third, but I'll put him in third anyway. He and Luffy seemed to be matched enough while Luffy couldn't do a thing to Mihawk. Though by that logic, Mihawk goes above Blackbeard, but Blackbeard's two devil fruit power makes him look impossible to beat.

Dunno who seems to be stronger, but I'll put Kuma in fourth place because he's an officer in the Revolutionary Army who seems to go around by himself. He also did what no one else could do, utterly beat all the Straw Hats. He definitely belongs in the top five.

Doflamingo might be in fourth place, but I dunno. He hasn't shown anything that makes him stand out, apart from being able to beat Law and Sanji.

Boa's devil fruit power, her beauty, and her own skills make her very dangerous. She can turn anyone with lustful thoughts into stone, and if that doesn't work, she can certainly hold her own.

Crocodile is pretty strong, but not as strong if one has haki or knows his weakness, although Luffy was lucky every time.

Law, Moria, and Buggy haven't shown to be strong or as much of a threat. Law would be the strongest out of the trio though, thanks to his devil fruit power. Moria's power comes from zombies, and without them, he's no good. Buggy isn't feared, his followers are, hence why he became a shichibukai.
Law took down smoker why do you think he wouldn't be able to take down crocodile?

Also I have been thinking about this for a while but how would blackbeard beat Mihawk (assuming his control of Whitebeard's fruit isn't perfect).
 

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Re: Rank the Shichibukai

If mihawk can cut the airquakes, then BB still loses, since i dont think BB would want to drag Mihawk close to him to absorp his non-excisting DF powers.
 

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Re: Rank the Shichibukai

Law took down smoker why do you think he wouldn't be able to take down crocodile?

Also I have been thinking about this for a while but how would blackbeard beat Mihawk (assuming his control of Whitebeard's fruit isn't perfect).
This isn't Dragon Ball Z, you have to look at more than that. I forgot how Law took down Smoker though, unless you mean Law using Shambles to switch Smoker and Tashigi. But Crocodile seems to have been cut many times without any effect, he still put himself back together. Would Shambles even work on him?

Wouldn't yami yami no mi take in all attacks? Or does it just make devil fruit useless, since almost everyone was able to hit him at least once?
 

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Re: Rank the Shichibukai

But Crocodile seems to have been cut many times without any effect, he still put himself back together. Would Shambles even work on him?
It's fundamentally the same thing; taking on a logia. I don't seen any reason he wouldn't be able to utilise the same method against Croc.
 

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Re: Rank the Shichibukai

Blackbeard & Mihawk - at or near the same level as the Yonkou

Doflamingo, Kuma, and Hancock - all 3 have downright stupid DFs and two of them have conqueror's haki. I have very little doubt that Hancock would beat Jinbei and wtfpwn Crocodile, I'm not sure why she's placed so low on many of these lists

Jinbei and Law - about the same level as Luffy

Crocodile and Moria - Yes, Luffy was very fortunate to beat Crocodile in Alabasta; no, I don't think he'd have much difficulty with Croc after the timeskip. Moria's fruit is also pretty ridiculous, but I'm not sure to what extent it'd work against Croc.

Buggy - lol
 
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Re: Rank the Shichibukai

It's fundamentally the same thing; taking on a logia. I don't seen any reason he wouldn't be able to utilise the same method against Croc.
Saying beating logias is all the same isnt right at all. Smokers fruit is a supporting and defensiv logia with nearly no potential on the offense. Crocs fruit on the other hand... he can dry you out in just a few seconds and switch the ground to dust and sand, which he can control. Also dont forget his sandsword. Law can switch metalblades and such things, but not a slash out of tousands of sandparticles.
 

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Re: Rank the Shichibukai

  • Blackbeard and Mihawk. Blackbeard took out Ace, a WB commander with a bounty of 550 000 000Beli who had already been offered a shichibukai position. Mihawk is the worlds greatest swordsman, altough it's a biased opinion I believe him to be admiral level.

  • Doflamingo, Kuma & Hancock. Doflamingo is strong, he fodderized Law (though Law was pretty worn out), His strength is renowned, Vergo's superior (says a lot in my book) Not afraid to ignore an Admiral even though he was wide open. Kuma. Strong, super-fast, laser, can deflect anything. Main reason why Oars Jr was brought down in the war. Hancock. Strong, fast, can petrify anyone she wants, broke a pacifista's skull with one kick, Sengoku acknowledged her strength. hugely underestimated by a lot of people.

  • Jinbe. For me, he's not far behind the forementioned, but there gap is big enough to put him in class of his own between the above and below. I'm ranking him somewhere in between D,K,H and Law. Fishman Karate expert, Bounty of over 400 000 000Beli after his resignation from the Shichibukai. Managed to stop Akainu in his tracks. Acknowledged by Sengoku.

  • Law & Crocodile. Law. Just below Jinbe in strength. Fast enough to dodge Smoker's attacks, Epic utilization of his DF, Took down Smoker with relative ease. Worst generation supernova, 440 000 000Beli bounty before becoming a shichibukai. Cut trough Vergo's busoshoku Haki (the same swordstroke that split a mountain in half) which was praised by Doflamingo. Crocodile From what we've seen, just a tiny fraction below Law but still a formidable fighter. I expect him to have improved during the timeskip even more than he did between Alabasta-Marineford. Logia, short skirmishes with both Jozu and Doflamingo, came out pretty much unscatched from confrontations. Indirectly acknowledged by Aokiji and Garp during the war(this might just be me though). If he's improved during the TS (which he most likely has) I'm putting him above Law.

  • Moriah. After his defeat against Kaido, he stopped training, got sloppy and only relied on his Zombies to do the fighting for him, Even Jinbe stated the same thing. I believe he has much potential for improvement if he starts training again and stops relying on other people, he was after all a rival of Kaido in his prime. Pre-timeskip I found him to be below Crocodile & Co, the weakest shichibukai.
  • Buggy. Not much to say, a weak coward with a big crew of former Impel Down prisoners. He is a shichibukai only because of his very large infamous crew and a reputation that has been insanely blown out of proportion, mainly because he was one of the Roger Pirates and because of his misinterpreted actions during the war.
 
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