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Oh Pudding Memo memo no mi, and Viola's giro giro are also great options :zomg

I forgot a lot of interesting fruits, so decide to list* them here so you can click the link and check the ones youd like to pick. (source : picked the lists from wikia)

*listed only canon fruits.

paramecia

Paramecia fruits

  • Gomu Gomu no Mi (English versions: Gum-Gum Fruit): Turns the user's body into rubber, giving them the power to stretch, bounce, and inflate; as well as make them immune to electricity and near impervious to blunt-force attacks and bullets. Eaten by Monkey D. Luffy.
  • Bara Bara no Mi (English versions: Chop-Chop Fruit): Allows the user to split their body into separate pieces, which the user can manipulate and make fly through the air. It also makes them immune to slashing attacks. Eaten by Buggy.
  • Sube Sube no Mi (English versions: Slip-Slip Fruit/Smooth-Smooth Fruit): Makes the user's skin extremely smooth and slippery, causing things to slide off them. Eaten by Alvida.
  • Bomu Bomu no Mi (English versions: Bomb-Bomb Fruit/Boom-Boom Fruit): Allows the user to create explosions from their body, as well as give explosive properties to their bodily secretions. Also makes the user immune to explosions. Eaten by Gem.
  • Kiro Kiro no Mi (English versions: Kilo-Kilo Fruit): Allows the user to increase or decrease their body weight at will. Eaten by Mikita.
  • Hana Hana no Mi (English versions: Flower-Flower Fruit): Allows the user to sprout duplicates of their body parts from any nearby surface. Eaten by Nico Robin.
  • Doru Doru no Mi (English versions: Wax-Wax Fruit): Allows the user to create and control candle wax. Eaten by Galdino.
  • Baku Baku no Mi (English versions: Munch-Munch Fruit): Allows the user to eat anything and transform their body to match the qualities of what they've recently eaten. Eaten by Wapol.
  • Mane Mane no Mi (English versions: Clone-Clone Fruit): Allows the user to transform into a physical lookalike of another person. Eaten by Kurozumi Higurashi until her death and later eaten by Bentham.
  • Supa Supa no Mi (English versions: Dice-Dice Fruit): Allows the user to transform any part of their body into a blade, thus gaining slashing abilities and making their skin as hard as steel. Eaten by Daz Bonez.
  • Toge Toge no Mi (English versions: Spike-Spike Fruit): Allows the user to grow spikes from their body. Eaten by Zala.
  • Ori Ori no Mi (English versions: Cage-Cage Fruit/Bind-Bind Fruit): Allows the user to create iron bindings on their opponents. Eaten by Hina.
  • Bane Bane no Mi (English versions: Spring-Spring Fruit/Boing-Boing Fruit): Allows the user to turn their limbs into springs. Eaten by Bellamy.
  • Ito Ito no Mi (English versions: String-String Fruit): Allows the user to create and control strings. Eaten by Donquixote Doflamingo.
  • Noro Noro no Mi (English versions: Slow-Slow Fruit): Allows the user to emit special photons that slow down anything they touch for 30 seconds. Eaten by Foxy.
  • Doa Doa no Mi (English versions: Door-Door Fruit): Allows the user to create and open doors on anything, including walls, living beings, and the even the air itself. Eaten by Blueno.
  • Awa Awa no Mi (English versions: Bubble-Bubble Fruit): Allows the user to create and control soap bubbles that can clean anything, including strength. Eaten by Kalifa.
  • Beri Beri no Mi (English versions: Berry-Berry Fruit): Allows the user to split their body into many spheres. Eaten by Very Good.
  • Sabi Sabi no Mi (English versions: Rust-Rust Fruit): Allows the user to rust anything they touch, including organic material. Eaten by Shu.
  • Shari Shari no Mi (English versions: Wheel-Wheel Fruit): Allows the user to turn their limbs into wheels. Eaten by Sharinguru.
  • Horo Horo no Mi (English versions: Hollow-Hollow Fruit): Allows the user to create and control ghosts. The ghosts cause despair in the people they touch and are capable of self-destructing. The user can also make their own ghost leave their body. Eaten by Perona.
  • Yomi Yomi no Mi (English versions: Revive-Revive Fruit): Allows the user to return to life after dying once already, as well as allow the user to make their returned soul temporarily leave their reanimated body. Eaten by Brook.
  • Kage Kage no Mi (English versions: Shadow-Shadow Fruit): Allows the user to manifest and control shadows. Eaten by Gecko Moria.
  • Suke Suke no Mi (English versions: Clear-Clear Fruit): Allows the user to become invisible, as well as make anything they touch invisible. Eaten by Absalom until his death and later eaten by Shiryu.
  • Nikyu Nikyu no Mi (English versions: Paw-Paw Fruit): Gives the user paw pads on their hands that can repel anything they touch. Eaten by Bartholomew Kuma.
  • Ope Ope no Mi (English versions: Op-Op Fruit): Allows the user to generate a sphere-like room, inside which they can manipulate anything. Eaten by Trafalgar D. Water Law.
  • Shiro Shiro no Mi (English versions: Castle-Castle Fruit): Allows the user to become a living fortress equipped with cannons, as well as letting them shrink people and objects and house them inside their body. Eaten by Capone Bege.
  • Wara Wara no Mi (English versions: Straw-Straw Fruit): Allows the user to create and control straw. They can attach other people's life forces to straw dolls, allowing the damage they take to transfer to the dolls and the people connected to them. Eaten by Basil Hawkins.
  • Mero Mero no Mi (English versions: Love-Love Fruit): Allows the user to turn people that feel attraction for them into stone. Eaten by Boa Hancock.
  • Doku Doku no Mi (English versions: Venom-Venom Fruit): Allows the user to create and control poison. Eaten by Magellan.
  • Horu Horu no Mi (English versions: Horm-Horm Fruit): Allows the user to create special hormones and inject them into a persons body, changing their biochemistry. Eaten by Emporio Ivankov.
  • Choki Choki no Mi (English versions: Snip-Snip Fruit): Allows the user to transform parts of their body into scissors. Anything cut by these scissors briefly gains the properties of paper. Eaten by Inazuma.
  • Gura Gura no Mi (English versions: Tremor-Tremor Fruit): Allows the user to create quakes and shockwaves. Considered to be the most powerful Paramecia. Eaten by Edward Newgate and later stolen from him by Marshall D. Teach upon his death.
  • Kira Kira no Mi: Allows the user to transform their body into diamond. Eaten by Jozu.
  • Woshu Woshu no Mi (English versions: Wash-Wash Fruit): Allows the user to literally wash and fold a person as if they were laundry. It also makes the victim's heart cleaner. Eaten by Tsuru.
  • Fuwa Fuwa no Mi (English versions: Float-Float Fruit): Allows the user to fly and make non-living things they touch levitate. Eaten by Shiki.
  • Mato Mato no Mi (English versions: Mark-Mark Fruit): Allows the user to mark a person as their target by touching them so that any weapon thrown with that same hand will chase after the marked target. Eaten by Vander Decken IX.
  • Fuku Fuku no Mi (English versions: Garb-Garb Jutsu): Allows the user to create clothing. Eaten by Kin'emon.
  • Hobi Hobi no Mi (English versions: Hobby-Hobby Fruit): Allows the user to turn people into subservient toys, simultaneously erasing any memory of the victim from the minds of others. It also halts the user's aging. Eaten by Sugar.
  • Buki Buki no Mi (English versions: Arms-Arms Fruit): Allows the user to transform their body into any kind of weapon. Eaten by Baby 5.
  • Guru Guru no Mi (English versions: Spin-Spin Fruit): Allows the user to make any part of their body spin like a propeller. Eaten by Buffalo.
  • Beta Beta no Mi (English versions: Stick-Stick Fruit): Allows the user to create and control mucus. Eaten by Trebol.
  • Zushi Zushi no Mi: Allows the user to manipulate gravity. Eaten by Issho.
  • Bari Bari no Mi (English versions: Barrier-Barrier Fruit): Allows the user to create barriers. Eaten by Kurozumi Semimaru until his death and later eaten by Bartolomeo.
  • Nui Nui no Mi (English versions: Stitch-Stitch Power): Allows the user to stitch things together. Eaten by Leo.
  • Giro Giro no Mi (English versions: Glare-Glare Fruit): Allows the user to see through solid objects, as well as read people's minds and memories. Eaten by Viola.
  • Ato Ato no Mi (English versions: Art-Art Fruit): Allows the user to transform people and objects into art. Eaten by Giolla.
  • Jake Jake no Mi (English versions: Jacket-Jacket Fruit): Allows the user to transform into a jacket and control the body of the person wearing them. Eaten by Kelly Funk.
  • Pamu Pamu no Mi (English versions: Pop-Pop Fruit): Allows the user to expand and rupture their body, as well as any inorganic object they touch. Eaten by Gladius.
  • Sui Sui no Mi (English versions: Swim-Swim Fruit): Allows the user to swim freely in the ground and walls. Eaten by Senor Pink.
  • Ton Ton no Mi (English versions: Ton-Ton Fruit): Allows the user to drastically increase their body weight. Eaten by Machvise.
  • Hira Hira no Mi (English versions: Ripple-Ripple Fruit): Allows the user to give anything they touch the properties of fabric, making it thin, flexible, and fluttering. Eaten by Diamante.
  • Ishi Ishi no Mi (English versions: Stone-Stone Fruit): Allows the user to assimilate into and control stone. Eaten by Pica.
  • Nagi Nagi no Mi (English versions: Calm-Calm Fruit): Allows the user to nullify sounds. Eaten by Donquixote Rosinante until his death.
  • Chiyu Chiyu no Mi (English versions: Heal-Heal Fruit): Allows the user to heal people's wounds. Eaten by Mansherry.
  • Soru Soru no Mi (English versions: Soul-Soul Fruit): Allows the user to extract people's souls and use them to bring objects to life. Eaten by Carmel until her death and later eaten by Charlotte Linlin.
  • Mira Mira no Mi (English versions: Mirror-Mirror Fruit): Allows the user to create mirrors that reflect attacks and act as entrances to the Mirro-World. Eaten by Charlotte Brûlée.
  • Pero Pero no Mi (English versions: Lick-Lick Fruit): Allows the user to create and control candy. Eaten by Charlotte Perospero.
  • Bisu Bisu no Mi (English versions: Bis-Bis Fruit): Allows the user to create and control biscuits. Eaten by Charlotte Cracker.
  • Bata Bata no Mi (English versions: Butter-Butter Fruit): Allows the user to create and control butter. Eaten by Charlotte Galette.
  • Buku Buku no Mi (English versions: Book-Book Fruit): Allows the user to manipulate books, as well as trap people inside them. Eaten by Charlotte Mont-d'Or.
  • Kuri Kuri no Mi (English versions: Cream-Cream Fruit): Allows the user to create and control cream. Eaten by Charlotte Opera.
  • Shibo Shibo no Mi (English versions: Wring-Wring Fruit): Allows the user to drain liquid from people and objects. Eaten by Charlotte Smoothie.
  • Memo Memo no Mi (English versions: Memo-Memo Fruit): Allows the user to manipulate people's memories. Eaten by Charlotte Pudding.
  • Mochi Mochi no Mi (English versions: Mochi-Mochi Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into mochi. Eaten by Charlotte Katakuri. This Devil Fruit is noted to be a "special Paramecia".
  • Hoya Hoya no Mi (English versions: Puff-Puff Fruit): Allows the user to summon a genie from their body. Eaten by Charlotte Daifuku.
  • Netsu Netsu no Mi (English versions: Heat-Heat Fruit): Allows the user to emit high heat from their body. Eaten by Charlotte Oven.
  • Kuku Kuku no Mi (English versions: Cook-Cook Fruit): Allows the user to transform objects into food. Eaten by Streusen.
  • Gocha Gocha no Mi: Allows the user to fuse themselves with other people. Eaten by Charlotte Newshi.
  • Oshi Oshi no Mi (English versions: Push-Push Fruit): Allows the user to manipulate the ground as if it were made of clay. Eaten by Morley.
  • Kobu Kobu no Mi (English versions: Pump-Pump Fruit): Allows the user to rally people into fighting and awaken their latent potential. Eaten by Belo Betty.
  • Toki Toki no Mi (English versions: Time-Time Ability): Allows the user to send themselves and others forward in time. Eaten by Kozuki Toki until her death.
  • Juku Juku no Mi (English versions: Ripe-Ripe Jutsu): Allows the user to mature and decay inanimate objects. Eaten by Shinobu.
Unnamed Fruits

  • Eustass Kid's fruit which allows him to manipulate magnetic forces.
  • Jewelry Bonney's fruit which allows her to manipulate the age of any person, including herself.
  • Scratchmen Apoo's fruit which allows him to morph body parts into instruments and use music as a weapon.
  • Urouge's fruit which allows him to convert damage taken into strength, resulting in expanding muscles.
  • Blamenco's fruit which creates pockets in his body that can store things such as a giant hammer.
  • Sanjuan Wolf's fruit that makes him bigger than regular giants.
  • Kurozumi Kanjuro's fruit that allows him to bring whatever he draws to life. Like Kin'emon, he refers to it as sorcery.
  • Tama's fruit that allows her to create dango from her cheeks that make any animal that eats them tame and subservient.



zoan

Zoan fruits


Ushi Ushi no Mi (Ox) series
  • Ushi Ushi no Mi, Model: Bison (English versions: Ox-Ox Fruit/Ox-Ox Fruit, Bison Model/Ox-Ox Fruit, Bison Form) - Allows the user to become a full bison or a half-bison hybrid. Eaten by Dalton.
  • Ushi Ushi no Mi, Model: Giraffe (English versions: English versions: Ox-Ox Fruit, Giraffe Model/Ox-Ox Fruit, Model: Giraffe) - Allows the user to become a full giraffe or a half-giraffe hybrid. Eaten by Kaku.
Hito Hito no Mi (Human) series
  • Hito Hito no Mi (English versions: Human-Human Fruit) - Allows any animal that eats it to get human characteristics like Tony Tony Chopper did when he ate the fruit.
  • Hito Hito no Mi, Model: Daibutsu (English versions: Human-Human Fruit, Daibutsu Model/Human-Human Fruit, Model: Buddha) - Allows the user to become a Daibutsu (a giant gold Buddha) or a half-Daibutsu hybrid. Eaten by Sengoku.
Tori Tori no Mi (Bird) series
Inu Inu no Mi (Dog) series
  • Inu Inu no Mi, Model: Dachshund (English version: Mutt-Mutt Fruit/Mutt-Mutt Fruit, Dachshund Form/Dog-Dog Fruit, Model: Dachshund) - Allows the user to become a full dachshund or a half-dachshund hybrid. In the case of Babe's bazooka-like gun Lassoo, he became a dachshund/gun hybrid.
  • Inu Inu no Mi, Model: Jackal (English version: Mutt-Mutt Fruit: Jackal Strike/Dog-Dog Fruit, Model: Jackal/Mutt-Mutt Fruit: Jackal Model) - Allows the user to become a full jackal or a half-jackal hybrid. Eaten by Chaka.
  • Inu Inu no Mi, Model: Wolf (English version: Mutt-Mutt Fruit: Wolf Model/Dog-Dog Fruit, Model: Wolf) - Allows the user to become a full wolf or a half-wolf hybrid similar to a werewolf. Eaten by Jabra.
  • Inu Inu no Mi, Model: Tanuki - Allows the user to become a full tanuki or a half-tanuki hybrid. In the case of Tenguyama Hitetsu's teapot Bunbuku, he becomes a tanuki/teapot hybrid.
  • Inu Inu no Mi, Model: Kyubi no Kitsune (English version: Dog-Dog Fruit, Model: Nine Tailed Fox) - Allows the user to become a full nine-tailed fox or a half-nine-tailed fox hybrid, and allows the user to become perfect clones of other people. Eaten by Catarina Devon.
Neko Neko no Mi (Cat) series
Zou Zou no Mi (Elephant) series
  • Zou Zou no Mi (English version: Elephant-Elephant Fruit/Eleph-Eleph Fruit) - Allows the user to become a full elephant or a half-elephant hybrid. In the case of Spandam's sword Funkfreed, he becomes an elephant/sword hybrid.
  • Zou Zou no Mi, Model: Mammoth (English version: Elephant-Elephant Fruit, Model: Mammoth) - Allows the user to become a full mammoth or a half-mammoth hybrid. Eaten by Jack.
Ryu Ryu no Mi (Dragon) series
Hebi Hebi no Mi (Snake) series
Sara Sara no Mi (Salamander) series
  • Sara Sara no Mi, Model: Axolotl (English version: Sala-Sala Fruit, Model: Axolotl) - Allows the user to become a full axolotl or a half-axolotl hybrid. In the case of Caesar Clown's slime Smiley, it became an axolotl/slime hybrid until it's death.
Mushi Mushi no Mi (Bug) series
  • Mushi Mushi no Mi, Model: Kabutomushi (English version: Bug-Bug Fruit, Model: Rhinoceros Beetle) - Allows the user to become a full rhinoceros beetle or a half-rhinoceros beetle hybrid. The user can also fly in either form. Eaten by Kabu.
  • Mushi Mushi no Mi, Model: Suzumebachi (English version: Bug-Bug Fruit, Model: Hornet) - Allows the user to become a full hornet or a half-hornet hybrid. The user can also fly in either form. Eaten by Bian.
Single model series
  • Mogu Mogu no Mi (English version: Diggy-Diggy Fruit/Mole-Mole Fruit) - Allows the user to become a full mole or a half-mole hybrid. The user can also dig underground. Eaten by Drophy.
  • Uma Uma no Mi (English version: Horse-Horse Fruit) - Allows the user to become a full horse or a half-horse hybrid. In the case of Gan Fall's pet bird Pierre, he resembles a Pegasus.
  • Kame Kame no Mi (English version: Turtle-Turtle Fruit) - Allows the user to become a full turtle or a half-turtle hybrid. In the case of Pekoms, he resembles a Tarasque
Unnamed Fruits

This section lists the Zoan Devil Fruits that haven't been identified yet.

  • Minotaurus' fruit which allows him to take the form of a Holstein cow.
  • Minokoala's fruit which allows him to take the form of a koala.
  • Minorhinoceros' fruit which allows him to take the form of a rhinoceros.
  • Minozebra's fruit which allows him to take the form of a zebra.
  • Onigumo's fruit that lets him sprout spider-like arms from his back as well as grow a spider's abdomen.
  • Dalmatian's fruit which allows him to turn into a dalmatian.
  • Epoida's fruit which allows him to turn into a caterpillar.
  • Minochihuahua's fruit which allows him to take the form of a chihuahua.
  • Kaido's fruit which allows him to transform into an eastern dragon.





logia

Logia fruits

  • Moku Moku no Mi (English Versions: Smoke-Smoke Fruit/Plume-Plume Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into smoke. Eaten by Smoker.
  • Suna Suna no Mi (English Versions: Sand-Sand Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into sand. The sand can dehydrate any non-metallic substance it touches. Eaten by Crocodile.
  • Mera Mera no Mi (English Versions: Flame-Flame Fruit/Flare-Flare Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into fire. Eaten by Portgas D. Ace until his death and later eaten by Sabo.
  • Goro Goro no Mi (English Versions: Rumble-Rumble Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into lightning. Eaten by Enel.
  • Hie Hie no Mi (English Versions: Chilly-Chilly Fruit/Ice-Ice Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into ice. Eaten by Kuzan.
  • Yami Yami no Mi (English Versions: Dark-Dark Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into darkness. The darkness has strong gravitational properties and the user has an infinite amount of space inside of their elemental body. Eaten by Marshall D. Teach.
  • Pika Pika no Mi (English Versions: Glint-Glint Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into light. Eaten by Borsalino.
  • Magu Magu no Mi (English Versions: Mag-Mag Fruit): Allows the user to create, create, and transform into magma. Eaten by Sakazuki.
  • Numa Numa no Mi (English Versions: Swamp-Swamp Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into mud. The user is a "bottomless swamp", granting them an infinite amount of space inside their elemental body. The mud can take on the properties of quicksand. Eaten by Caribou.
  • Gasu Gasu no Mi (English Versions: Gas-Gas Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into gas. Eaten by Caesar Clown.
  • Yuki Yuki no Mi (English Versions: Snow-Snow Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into snow. Eaten by Monet until her death.


 

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Imagine Smoker covering a huge area to hinder the sight of his enemies and then getting stabbed from everywhere. :P
Why would he?
He could just blow smoke everywhere, he doesn't have to connected to all of it, like how Aokiji can throw down sheets of ice. If someone breaks that ice, Aokiji's shoulder doesn't suddenly break...

About your Zoan statement, I think its about mastery of your fruit in all honesty.
The more you master your fruit, the more likely you are to access a form beyond the standard 3 forms of Full, Hybrid and Normal like Lucci and Chopper.

Mythical Zoans and Ancient Zoans work slightly different to standard Zoans though
 

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Teru Teru no Mi: The user can utilize puppets to make them tell another person's most inner secrets to the user once he holds them to his ear... and I actually picture someone taking Teru Teru Bouzu as such puppets.
 

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So its a Paramecia that allows the user to go around turning people into ventriloquist puppets almost when he touches them?
With only Haki letting someone defend themselves. That would be nice for a Cipher Pol agent or Marine to have.


The Sound-Sound Logia would be called the Oto-Oto no Mi.
Super hearing, Speed of Sound, Sound blasts, beams,
Ability to send Sound through objects and the ground causing slight tremors on anything (nothing like Gura-Gura no Mi)
Ability to mimic any voice of any individual like the Kopi Kopi no Mi and the Mane Mane no Mi.
Affinity to be good at playing instruments.
Able to scream and cause enemies ears to bleed, and they can pop ear drums.
Ability to mute their surroundings by like 10m, can possibly train to increase the distance.

There. Finally got this down. Think I'm done going about this fruit all the time.
 

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So its a Paramecia that allows the user to go around turning people into ventriloquist puppets almost when he touches them?
With only Haki letting someone defend themselves. That would be nice for a Cipher Pol agent or Marine to have.


The Sound-Sound Logia would be called the Oto-Oto no Mi.
Super hearing, Speed of Sound, Sound blasts, beams,
Ability to send Sound through objects and the ground causing slight tremors on anything (nothing like Gura-Gura no Mi)
Ability to mimic any voice of any individual like the Kopi Kopi no Mi and the Mane Mane no Mi.
Affinity to be good at playing instruments.
Able to scream and cause enemies ears to bleed, and they can pop ear drums.
Ability to mute their surroundings by like 10m, can possibly train to increase the distance.

There. Finally got this down. Think I'm done going about this fruit all the time.
Wow, I love it! Is super cool logia.

It could even walk throught walls and other stuff, just like a ghost, as long as it not soundproof

For the record there is a paramecia sound fruit in OP first film, Goe Goe no Mi
but is kind of a roar power.

I Guess somebody would have already said, but I would love to see a nuclear or radiation logia, totally badass.

And also some insect zoan, like Praying Mantis or Wasp
 

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Wow, I love it! Is super cool logia.

It could even walk throught walls and other stuff, just like a ghost, as long as it not soundproof

For the record there is a paramecia sound fruit in OP first film, Goe Goe no Mi
but is kind of a roar power.
Thanks man!
But Goe Goe no Mi only translates to the Voice Voice Fruit.
So that guys Paramecia means its a Devil Fruit only about the power of the voice.

My fruit is about Sound just as a pure element so it can be more broad and have that overbearing feeling that Logia's have.
So I guess... My Sound Logia is stronger than El Drago's Voice Paramecia... :D

What do you mean Nuclear or Radiation Logia? Like... Radiated or Nuclear Gas? Or just in the form of already made energy?
Since I think Nuclear Gas or Radiation might not be able to exist Caesar Clown and his Gasu Gasu no Mi? I dunno.

I've always though about an Insect Zoan. I thought they would be just weak, but when I see Vice-Admiral Onigumo go Hybrid mode and just effortlessly catch Marco, I've wanted to see Insects. And yes, I know that Spiders are arachnids and not insects but they're all of similar idea.
 

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This has brought my attention since I noticed a lot of people on here see the Smoke Fruit as a weak Logia which seems absurd to me.

Imho, Smoker just isn't using his fruit to its fullest potential.

In theory, the Smoke fruit should overlap slightly with the Gasu Gasu no Mi since Smoker should be filling rooms with Smoke like CC was doing.
He should be filling areas with clouds of smoke creating difficult breathing for people like how Aokiji can make cliffs of Ice.

And obviously the clouds of Smoke aren't connected to Smoker just like Aokiji isn't connected to the cliffs of Ice he creates or the road of Ice he makes on the sea.
It disappoints me people have confused Enel's specific move of becoming a massive Lightning entity, with it being customary for all Logia's to suffer from when they create mass amounts of the Logia ability.

The same way if you destroy one of Akainu's raining fists of pure magma, it won't harm Akainu himself.

Considering Smoker became a Vice-Admiral at 36 with the standard Haki, I personally think that's when the 3 Admirals became Vice-Admirals too (Kizaru, Aokiji & Akainu). I think they all reached Vice-Admiral in their mid-30s.

I wouldn't be surprised if Smoker is improving at a similar rate to them. since he has gone from zero to hero it seems.
From Oda's words in the SBS he says Oda and Tashigi reached their rank really quickly, implying they entered not that long from the start of the story, meaning Smoker has reached VA in not too many years and a lot faster than most.
Similar to how Coby has rapidly speeded up the ranks.

Smoker through the use of clouds has shown he can fly, so he should by a few years be able to be flying from island to island.
Honestly, the Smoke Fruit's capabilities are huge.
It's worthy of someone being an Admiral in the future.
 

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Maybe the biggest problem for Smoker is, that his fruit bears mostly defensive capabilities, aside from tendering meat. :P

If you compare the potential of melting, freezing and blowing up everything in sight to casting some smoke it's rather lame. Sure, he can surround multiple enemies with smoke and whatever, but what is he gonna do then? His current potential only grows with his Haki. As long as he can't get a decent hit all defensive benefits don't matter.
And it's likely that observation Haki also works while beeing blindfolded.

Honestly, i share you opinion that Smoker could show off much, much more and that he's not living up to the readers expectations, considering how badass he was earlier. But i can't see any way how he would become stronger in big fights without improving his Haki rather than his DF.
 

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I think the main issue regarding smoker's fruit is that it seems that it appears to be innately a rather versatile fruit. The thing is that when it comes to fruits the way you use them depends on your own tastes and creativity. Smoker is simply focusing on certain aspects of his fruit but leaving others. It does not necessarily imply smoker is bad at using his fruit or that his fruit is weak though. Fruits can be hard to master and require time. Luffy could not even properly punch when he first got his, ace had trouble burning stuff involuntarily and so on... Smoker at the moment seems to be focusing on the propelling capacities of his fruit to enhance his offense which makes sense. In turn he is neglecting potential poisoning capacities of his fruit, he does not seem to work with high volumes of smoke as do other powerful logia with their elements, he is not doing anything windlike with his smoke. There is no reason for him to not be able to create tornadoes like crocodile or emphasize limiting the vision of his opponent more. I don't necessarily think that what smoker is doing is wrong, perhaps what he is doing can be said to be adequate as it would suit him personally more than doing other things.

I do think a big part of the issue here is that smoker is not ultimately an admiral level fighter and he is quite away from that even today. Its kinda unfair to compare his feats with those of the admirals considering the sheer strength they have had from the start of the manga. 2 years ago smoker was not worth a damn as a warrior, his only merit was being a logia. Right now that is no longer the case and is halfway there to being at the top of the world. I think he needs more time more than anything.
 

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Smoker at the moment seems to be focusing on the propelling capacities of his fruit to enhance his offense which makes sense. In turn he is neglecting potential poisoning capacities of his fruit, he does not seem to work with high volumes of smoke as do other powerful logia with their elements, he is not doing anything windlike with his smoke. There is no reason for him to not be able to create tornadoes like crocodile or emphasize limiting the vision of his opponent more. I don't necessarily think that what smoker is doing is wrong, perhaps what he is doing can be said to be adequate as it would suit him personally more than doing other things.
This is the perfect reply to your question @David Rose.

For some weird reason, Most logia can create mini tornadoes. Ace, Blackbeard, Crocodile,
There is nothing to say Smoker shouldn't be able to create efficient ones with his.

Smoker's Fruit is a pretty good fruit. In fact, he should be sending tons of smoke into people's lungs and just dishing out lung disease in under a decade from now, assuming his improvement rate isn't going to slow down since he is supposed to be one of Luffy's rivals within Luffy's strength bracket. (Meant to be lol).

Smoke Fruit is definitely worthy of an Admiral. Smoker just needs to get his Busoushou Haki up to the higher level where he can kick standard ass completely without his Logia like the Admirals.
 

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I feel like that throughout the series, there were a lot of potentially badass devil fruits that were wasted, and if you could rewrite the series, who would you give them to instead? I think baroque works in particular wasted a lot.

I think Mr.5 Bomu Bomu no mi could've potentially been garp secret power, or could've been given to one of the strawhats such as Sanji.

Also, Miss Valentine Kilo Kilo no mi had so much potential too, again given to a someone with hand to hand combat that jumps a lot, Sanji would've utilized it well.

Even Miss Double Finger Toge Toge no mi had potential, for Sanji or another character as well.

Then there's the marine captain Rust Rust fruit that were too perfect of a devil fruit that Oda wasted.

Ideas?
 

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uh i disagree about the kilo kilo for someone who jumps a lot, yea that could be good whatever but the way she used it was for simpletons, things like punching and mid punch increasing the weight of your arm etc. or decreasing ur weight to increase ur speed or decreasing the weight of other things, similar to tsuchikages jutsu is how it should've been used.
 

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the fire fruit

we rarely got to see it in action
 

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Everyone is saying they're hoping one of the strawhats get the fire fire fruit, I hope not. I like the balance of the strawhats with their fruits abilities and skills and what nots. It is a huge fan favorite and I'm sure oda will bring it back.

Monet was a wasted fruit too, the snow snow fruit had as much potential to the ice ice as the fire fruits had in comparison to the magma.
 

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uh i disagree about the kilo kilo for someone who jumps a lot, yea that could be good whatever but the way she used it was for simpletons, things like punching and mid punch increasing the weight of your arm etc. or decreasing ur weight to increase ur speed or decreasing the weight of other things, similar to tsuchikages jutsu is how it should've been used.
It still gives the same impact. Of course,

GLaDOS: In case the laws of physics do not apply in the future, God help you.
 

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Well, good for you guys that Oda simply has to kill a DF user to bring the fruit back. If he likes :P

I think the fire fruit won't be seen as much in the future. We already saw nearly every possible attack.

The one fruit i really like to see again is the bomb fruit. So cool. At the moment we see that much weird fruits i wish we could return to the basics again.
 

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Well, to be fair just about any fruit could potentially be used better by someone who has superior physical capacities. The manga has made the point that a fruit is only as good as the user is so to speak. So yeah, the bomu bomu fruit and the kilo fruit could have potentially been given significantly better use than they were given had the characters in question been stronger.

I would argue buggy's bara bara no mi is the most underused fruit though. It has endless applications at least. Buggy can attack from multiple angles, is invulnerable to sword slashes, has range and who knows what else. If he gets a little creative he can fly, look at multople angles at the same time, hear from two places at the same time.... His partial invulnerability is greatly downplayed by his incompetence. Heck, how about even rearranging his body for convenience? I am sure there would be combinations that could prove useful somehow.... Like changing his foot for a fist and punching with the strength of a kick or something. FISTKICK MOTHER*****R! Or some variation of swordsmanship where he changes his arms for legs with hands at the end so as to have longer arms when swordfighting.... Although range is not an issue to him to begin with.

There was also the similar fruit that split that guy into balls or something.... that sounds like it could be useful somehow.
 

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There was also the similar fruit that split that guy into balls or something.... that sounds like it could be useful somehow.
Captain Very Good of the Marines. He got stomped by Rob Lucci though. Which is isn't so bad if you're at the Captain Level.
But yeah he could probably use his fruit better.


I remember now it was the Beri Beri no Mi that was eaten by Captain Very Good.
 
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I just hope we haven't seen the last of Virgo. Is his devil fruit ability even confirmed yet?

There's the stuff sticking to his face, and Sanji saying he might be made out of metal. Aside from that he hasn't been seen using anything but Rokushiki and Haki (if I remember correctly).
 

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As far as we know vergo simply did not have a DF ability at all. Vergo did have remarkably powerful haki so I think sanji's comments were an allusion to that. Perhaps it was a combination of armor haki and tekkai though.
 

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I just hope we haven't seen the last of Virgo. Is his devil fruit ability even confirmed yet?

There's the stuff sticking to his face, and Sanji saying he might be made out of metal. Aside from that he hasn't been seen using anything but Rokushiki and Haki (if I remember correctly).
Well what stuck to his face was a hamburger and a spoon, so that's probably just his bad tablemanners, I think he's simply a Haki-beast, combined with rokushiki
 
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