Shounen Dragon Ball Super

[Doughboy]

I'm not caught up in the anime (watch dub) but the explaination on why Goku can fuse the SSB aura into his skin to go 100% is a great explanation, stuff like this is all I need. Using Beerus' Destruction is kinda of a big accomplishment that made it seem so easy. Vegeta probably can use it too

 

[LaGOAT]

Sorry what is hakai?

--- Double Post Merged, Jun 20, 2017, Original Post Date: Jun 20, 2017 ---

I'm not caught up in the anime (watch dub) but the explaination on why Goku can fuse the SSB aura into his skin to go 100% is a great explanation, stuff like this is all I need. Using Beerus' Destruction is kinda of a big accomplishment that made it seem so easy. Vegeta probably can use it too

Team dub for life!!!! But I'm behind lol

 

[Demonspeed]

Sorry what is hakai?

It is the Destruction technique.

 

[Purity of Magi]

Chapter was good, this arc is so much better than in the anime. Zamasu stays the best villian, love it. Altho, the only thing I didn't really like is the fact that Goku used Hakai. Kinda ruined the moment, imho. Still good chapter tho.

 

[KiSwordsman]

Yea at this point you have to separate the manga from the anime. There are a ton of things WAY different, this is the latest one. I like a lot of choices in the manga. I don't mind this one too much, an explanation would be nice though.

That's difficult in my opinion. But that's mainly due to my belief that the anime is a basis for the changes in the manga. But in the end, that's all I want; an explanation. Goku being an idiot savant can only go so far.

The problem I see with this though, is it makes things a little bit too easy. if Goku really wanted to get better with this technique, then we have a character not on the same standing as the gods of destruction being able to wipe people from existence. The issue here is the destruction technique is not, or seemingly not like the solar flare for instance. If this is really Beerus's technique, then that means that it has the same effect as his technique. If that's the case, then every major foe from here on out would only last simply due to the fact of Goku wanting a challenge. Which is kind of dumb, in my opinion.

 

[llamapie]

That's difficult in my opinion. But that's mainly due to my belief that the anime is a basis for the changes in the manga. But in the end, that's all I want; an explanation. Goku being an idiot savant can only go so far.

The problem I see with this though, is it makes things a little bit too easy. if Goku really wanted to get better with this technique, then we have a character not on the same standing as the gods of destruction being able to wipe people from existence. The issue here is the destruction technique is not, or seemingly not like the solar flare for instance. If this is really Beerus's technique, then that means that it has the same effect as his technique. If that's the case, then every major foe from here on out would only last simply due to the fact of Goku wanting a challenge. Which is kind of dumb, in my opinion.

See that's the thing. Goku isn't stupid, in fact he's pretty smart. The perception that dragonball super has made is really annoying. He isn't stupid, yet the anime is doing it's best to make it look like that. He was Naive at worst througout DB and DBZ. The same crap happened in Naruto. The anime had so much filler portraying Naruto as a moron that it stuck, even though the manga never did that.

 

[KiSwordsman]

See that's the thing. Goku isn't stupid, in fact he's pretty smart. The perception that dragonball super has made is really annoying. He isn't stupid, yet the anime is doing it's best to make it look like that. He was Naive at worst througout DB and DBZ. The same crap happened in Naruto. The anime had so much filler portraying Naruto as a moron that it stuck, even though the manga never did that.

I mean at best that was a minor point. The fact remains though that his savant tendencies when it comes to things like replicating people's techniques can only go to a certain point. Like would you really be able to buy if Goku was able to copy Zeno's universe annihilation technique? Point being, that can't be an explanation for this, or it shouldn't.

Also, I disagree on your assessment of the Naruto manga.

 

[Shasha23]

The problem I see with this though, is it makes things a little bit too easy. if Goku really wanted to get better with this technique, then we have a character not on the same standing as the gods of destruction being able to wipe people from existence. The issue here is the destruction technique is not, or seemingly not like the solar flare for instance. If this is really Beerus's technique, then that means that it has the same effect as his technique. If that's the case, then every major foe from here on out would only last simply due to the fact of Goku wanting a challenge. Which is kind of dumb, in my opinion.

The hakai so far looks to only work on someone weaker, stronger characters can tank it and even resist it as per anime even Zamasu showed he wouldn't get OHKO by it

 

[LaGOAT]

The hakai so far looks to only work on someone weaker, stronger characters can tank it and even resist it as per anime even Zamasu showed he wouldn't get OHKO by it

wait i thought that was an only manga feat?

 

[Shasha23]

wait i thought that was an only manga feat?

Nah but i cant go into details as it would be spoiling for people who dont watch subs

 

[KiSwordsman]

The hakai so far looks to only work on someone weaker, stronger characters can tank it and even resist it as per anime even Zamasu showed he wouldn't get OHKO by it

Well if were talking about the anime, Zamasu had a way to weasel his way out of getting wiped from existence. If were talking about the manga, it seemed like it was Goku's first time trying the technique. It's exactly why Zamasu had to be so underhanded to get away. And as of recently, the difference is Goku didn't receive energy from Beerus like the peons of universe 9 and 4. He seemingly, literally was like."let me try this thing out that Beerus does," and it sort of worked out. As in, he was actually able to use the technique. Even if it didn't accomplish what he was looking for.

I'm speaking in the sense of Goku actually becoming proficient with it. You may be right, it may only work on people that are weaker, but until were in a situation where Goku actually bothers to develop it, we won't know for sure.

 

[Shasha23]

Spoilers are out, looks like from here on out the manga will follow events of the anime

 

[KiSwordsman]

No stupid ass spirit bomb blade whooo!

 

[Doughboy]

An acceptable ending to a good arc. The plot convenience was real but could of been worst like what Ki said. Beerus was the coolest one in the chapter.

 

[Demonspeed]

Not very different from the anime. No Gohan but more Pilaf and Shu. Trunks is much more optimistic here too.

One thing bugs me though. Why is Beerus saying that he can't kill immortals when Goku almost did it with Hakai? Does it mean that Hakai would have not worked?

 

[LaGOAT]

Great chapter like how that they needed Zeno to destroy zamasu. I heard in the anime that trunks beat him lool that bs if that's true. So it's confirm that Zeno is omnipotent? and we know that he is the strongest. Did beerus admit that he can't kill immortal? Meaning that beerus is weaker than zamasu? So it's vegeto>=whis>fused zamasu>beerus>goku>=vegeta

 

[Demonspeed]

Great chapter like how that they needed Zeno to destroy zamasu. I heard in the anime that trunks beat him lool that bs if that's true. So it's confirm that Zeno is omnipotent? and we know that he is the strongest. Did beerus admit that he can't kill immortal? Meaning that beerus is weaker than zamasu? So it's vegeto>=whis>fused zamasu>beerus>goku>=vegeta

Trunks doesn't beat him, but he wounds him with his Spirit Sword coming out of nowhere. This is what I disliked the most in the anime version. There are clones in the anime too but they merge with the universe itself then Zeno does the same thing.

What Beerus said in this chapter is weird, but Zamasu is not strong enough to beat him even if he is immortal. Vegeto Blue might be stronger than Beerus, but I don't think he is stronger than Whis.

 

[LaGOAT]

Trunks doesn't beat him, but he wounds him with his Spirit Sword coming out of nowhere. This is what I disliked the most in the anime version. There are clones in the anime too but they merge with the universe itself then Zeno does the same thing.

What Beerus said in this chapter is weird, but Zamasu is not strong enough to beat him even if he is immortal. Vegeto Blue might be stronger than Beerus, but I don't think he is stronger than Whis.

exactly i think beerus is stronger maybe that technique wont be enough also ya whis is probably stroger but we havent seen a serious vegetto hence why i think he is equal or maybe slightly stronger than whis then again we havent seen whis fight seriously either plus he can control time so.

 

[Demonspeed]

Chapter 27 Korean scans.

There are bullets damage in this version too. Nice performance from Vegeta, but it's not enough...

 

[XXGenesis]

Nice, some Vegeta action. & Vegeta vs Beerus; Wow Beerus would of owned Fused Zamasu