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This whole time people was understimating Beerus and God of Destruction , but with this cap , is indisputable that.. SSBlue , and even SSB + Kaioken , don't stand a chance against the 100% Gods , he just.. one shot vegeta SSB with 100% of Blue power , the power that was able to face Fused Zamasu and even use hakai ...
 

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Very similar to the anime version, the Vegeta scenes are cool and we have a better idea of their levels but I preferred the anime version of the conversation between Goku and Beerus about Zeno.

The detail about Goku not training for a while bugs me a little. Especially with what Vegeta said in this chapter, how is Goku supposed to get that new form and be a match to Jiren then? Will Vegeta just be outclassed even though he was training this much? Does it mean that intensive training is not the key?
 

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The detail about Goku not training for a while bugs me a little. Especially with what Vegeta said in this chapter, how is Goku supposed to get that new form and be a match to Jiren then? Will Vegeta just be outclassed even though he was training this much? Does it mean that intensive training is not the key?
training alone won't get you very strong. it will get you stronger but not that much.

besides, he always has Kaioken is his pocket and foreshadowing since his fight with Toppo that he will show them what its like to surpass his limits.
 

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training alone won't get you very strong. it will get you stronger but not that much.

besides, he always has Kaioken is his pocket and foreshadowing since his fight with Toppo that he will show them what its like to surpass his limits.
I am talking about the manga though. In the manga he doesn't have Kaioken and we see Vegeta training with Whis in this chapter. I am curious to know what will be the explanation for that new form.
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Chapter 27 out on MS.
 

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The manga has diverged quite a bit from the anime at this point, at least when it comes to how SSB functions and it's overall power. I recall an episode in the anime where whis made the point that goku and vegeta combined could take on beerus... However seeing this manga chapter that would clearly be impossible in the manga at least. And of course, goku and vegeta as a team could take on beerus then their fusion would easily do that as well. What ultimately bothers me is how different this is from the movies in any case since in them even SSG could make beerus kinda try when fighting at least. I guess what bothers me most is that neither the anime nor the manga has really kept in the spirit of the movies which actually had toriyama involvement.
 

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Maybe Whis was saying they could beat a Beerus holding back. In the anime they have no way to win against him as well.
 

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Now it's whis>vegeito>=beerus>fused zamasu>vegeta=goku>Freeza
 

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Maybe Whis was saying they could beat a Beerus holding back. In the anime they have no way to win against him as well.
Maybe it wasn't the anime but the second movie towards the end. In the anime I am not sure the difference is as big as in the manga though. In the anime the SSB KK was enough to scare the crap out of beerus. The manga scrapped that and replaced it with the complete SSB which is enough to make vegeta or goku stronger than vegito as we saw him. Still, what bothers me most is still that neither medium really did all that much to keep in with the spirit of the movies.
 

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Maybe it wasn't the anime but the second movie towards the end. In the anime I am not sure the difference is as big as in the manga though. In the anime the SSB KK was enough to scare the crap out of beerus. The manga scrapped that and replaced it with the complete SSB which is enough to make vegeta or goku stronger than vegito as we saw him. Still, what bothers me most is still that neither medium really did all that much to keep in with the spirit of the movies.
Huh? Vegeta and goku>vegito???
 

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Maybe it wasn't the anime but the second movie towards the end. In the anime I am not sure the difference is as big as in the manga though. In the anime the SSB KK was enough to scare the crap out of beerus. The manga scrapped that and replaced it with the complete SSB which is enough to make vegeta or goku stronger than vegito as we saw him. Still, what bothers me most is still that neither medium really did all that much to keep in with the spirit of the movies.
they aren't above Vegito.

they are on the level of Fused Zamasu, slightly above.
 

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Huh? Vegeta and goku>vegito???
We saw how vegito performed against zamasu. And then goku uses his mastered SSB and for whatever reason performs even better than vegito. At least in the manga, the anime was completely different.
 

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Good chapter, power levels getting defined better. Is the Budokai currently what's happening in Super? Or we're still not that close yet? I watch the dub
 

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We saw how vegito performed against zamasu. And then goku uses his mastered SSB and for whatever reason performs even better than vegito. At least in the manga, the anime was completely different.
Vegito stomped Zamasu while SSB mastered Goku (which came out of nowhere) was barely fighting him on par and used Hakai (also came out of nowhere).

so Vegito > SSB Goku >= Merged Zamasu.

and now Vegeta can mastered it because Goku can do it lol which means Vegeta is up there as well.
 

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We saw how vegito performed against zamasu. And then goku uses his mastered SSB and for whatever reason performs even better than vegito. At least in the manga, the anime was completely different.
Vegito raped zamasu bro. Complete ssb goku was just on par with him probably slightly higher becuase of hakai vegito>>>goku and vegeta
 

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I think that WYIS statement is about Goku and Vegeta working in perfect unison. Also, considering Beerus hasnt gone 100% in some million years, maybe he is a bit rusty.
 

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I like this better
At least it shows who got the idea to erase the universes, while in the anime they tried their best to imply all of this was the idea of the Grand Priest

Beerus is a beast really, the gods weren't all that serious but still, he is really insanely strong
 

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Chapter is out.

So the one who beat Beerus at arm wrestling was Quitela. It means that the mortal stronger than a GoD is from U4... Damom?

The former was very impressive in this short battle, definitely one of the strongest GoDs if not the strongest.
 

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Spoilers are out and we get to see Goku vs Toppo and looks like G.O.D of universe 11 is stronger than Beerus :o
 

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Oh damn, and here i hoped beerus would be one of the stronger gods of destruction. Well, he could be but buggy taking him out is a bit of a disappointment.
 
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