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Which might be amazing.
Also Toppo became a monster when he used GoD mode. Vegeta will be the same. COmbine that with the basic saiyan genes and Goku as well as Vegeta will surpass anything.
And they have to, when Granola can simply become the strongest via 2 dragon balls.
Topo didn't do that in the manga iirc. I suppose the joke here will be that granola will become the strongest right now due to the wish, which you'd think a dragon couldn't grant anyways, but goku and vegeta will simply grow stronger.
 

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Topo didn't do that in the manga iirc. I suppose the joke here will be that granola will become the strongest right now due to the wish, which you'd think a dragon couldn't grant anyways, but goku and vegeta will simply grow stronger.
Well by retconning the lore to say the DBs power and amount depends on the creator and with the Nameks being from "another world" it doesn't seem farfetched at least. At least this is a completely new way to introduce the next "villain".
(Can't wait for Gohan to get nuked once more.)
 

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Well by retconning the lore to say the DBs power and amount depends on the creator and with the Nameks being from "another world" it doesn't seem farfetched at least. At least this is a completely new way to introduce the next "villain".
(Can't wait for Gohan to get nuked once more.)
Wasn't that always the case? hence why porunga was originally more powerful than shenron? Back in the day shenron mostly couldn't even affect android 17 and 18 because they were too strong.... So how strong must the new namekian be to grant a wish that would allow a rando to become stronger than current goku?
 

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Wasn't that always the case? hence why porunga was originally more powerful than shenron? Back in the day shenron mostly couldn't even affect android 17 and 18 because they were too strong.... So how strong must the new namekian be to grant a wish that would allow a rando to become stronger than current goku?
Apparently very strong, when you just need two DBs.
I know this will be futile but I hope GoD Vegeta deals with this for once.
 

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Apparently very strong, when you just need two DBs.
I know this will be futile but I hope GoD Vegeta deals with this for once.
Gotta wonder why the super DBs also number 7 if less DBs means more power.

That sounds as unlikely as gohan not getting his ass handed to him. Perhaps if vegeta gets competent at hakai and goku gets more competent at UI we might see full on god mode (angel mode?) vegeto/gogeta.
 

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If I understood correctly, the cereal planet is the planet of origin of namek? I think it sucks why he didn't keep the origin of the dragon ball namek and say that he not only kamui escaped the great disaster but also other namek. Since dragon balls are small and there are 2 of them, they must not be very powerful. So if they get past goku ultra instinct and vegeta blue and the gods I'll find her lame.
 

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"If only I could find the other Dragon Ball, I could become the strongest in the universe"
"Yeah, but it's lost."
"Yeah. Oh well, I'll watch some TV now."
"A kid found a Dragon Ball and our scientists took it to this exact location."

Lol, come on...
 

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dragonball getting less original each arc it the escalation power arc lol
 

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I doubt he'll get his wish granted, he will be pointed into another direction to achieve his goal though. At least that's my belief.

Regardless:

Any kind of drastic PowerUp for a character, such as the one Granolah needs to get past/even with UI Goku and Super Blue Vegeta(Or Golden Frieza for that matter-), will be something that most of the Fans would side eye at this point.

But i don't care, i just wanna see these guys duke it out soon.
 

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So... by now that goku has acquired ultra instinct and is in the process of improving it I think it is a pretty safe bet to say that he has probably surpassed beerus already. I say probably because we have never actually seen beerus struggle in combat and he is still a god capable of hakai (or whatever god power he is teaching vegeta) and also some level of ultra instinct. Vegeta would likely catch up to goku once he is actually capable of using the power he is learning (though to me it's sort of BS that vegeta has given up on UI and the whole thing with vegeta being unsuited to techniques is dumb).

So anyways, what happens if beerus feels like destroying the earth? Within DB cosmology this isn't an evil act, it's just a natural part of life so to speak which opens the path for new worlds with new life to spring forth via beerus' counterpart. but if beerus wants to destroy the earth then now goku is actually capable of stopping him. Vegeta will soon be capable of this as well if the power he is learning is competitive against ultra instinct. It feels like a planet being immune to the universe's circle of life should result in a response from the heavens so to speak.
 

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I am more bothered that this can lead to a god of destruction vegeta with his angel goku to be honest.
 

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When is Grahams going to show up next, heard he's strongest from Cereal. And also, Trix, Oats, Kix, Bran Crunch, Coco Puffs, Frosted Flakes, Kashii, LIFE, Chex, Cheerios, Berry Boo and all them other non-brands. Where they at, wanna see them too.
 

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So... what's vegeta's new form called?
 

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Well super Saiyan blue, beyond blue I guess it was super Saiyan 2.
Now he has features from ss3...
I guess it will be George Foreman grill beyond blue. Ok that was lame.

I love when Goku and Vegeta transforms and level up. Design is cool and that panel before that transformation felt like they ripped some panel from old Vegeta! From way back when he was on namek.
 

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Ok so destroyer mode for vegeta makes sense. Though I still find it weird that this power would in any way be comparable to UI. The GoDs certainly can't compare to angels and all of them presumably use this mode without even needing a transformation, it's their base. Or is perhaps the implication that the GoD have not mastered this either? Or perhaps angels have access to destroyer mode AND UI, hence their power? I suppose we did see margarita destroy planets in champa's place.

Another weird bit is vegeta's comment about instinct... Not sure how that plays into destroyer mode.
 

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Weirdly enough Toppos form and Vegetas form are different. At least according to the wiki.
 
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