Shounen Enigma by Sakaki Kenji

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Enigma 4 sold 38,000 copies in 3 days! Enigma 3 only sold 25,000 in its first 3 days, and the first two volumes didn't even sell enough to make it onto Oricon's list.

It's nowhere near the 500,000 required for immunity, but its two-month growth is encouraging. It's already selling more than Hokenshitsu no Shinigami volume 9 did in its first week.
 

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Enigma 4 sold 38,000 copies in 3 days! Enigma 3 only sold 25,000 in its first 3 days, and the first two volumes didn't even sell enough to make it onto Oricon's list.

It's nowhere near the 500,000 required for immunity, but its two-month growth is encouraging. It's already selling more than Hokenshitsu no Shinigami volume 9 did in its first week.
That is not the sales based on three days, it is based on whole 7 days. Therefore, the sales for volume 4 is not much different from volume 3.
 

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Enigma 4 came out August 4th. That Oricon is from August 1st to the 7th. So it's actually four days (I counted three by mistake), but not the full seven.

Enigma 3 came out on June 3rd, and the Oricon for that week began on May 30th. So it was out for three days before the week was cut off. So Enigma 4 had an extra day of sales, but I can still see some growth in the numbers.
 

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While you're at it, what does it say about Bleach??
Well, it seems as though people are saying they're either bored of the dragging fight in the anime, or they're excited to see Rukia and the Shinigami back. There also seem to be a few comments along the lines of what I've said on manga forums so many times: Bleach was never in serious trouble.
 
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Hmm.... interesting. I guess this may just bounce Bleach back to its rightful spot. But that's enough off-topicness for now ^^. BTW, congrats on catching up to the Japan releases!!
 

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Well, the latest chapter is out, and so is kewl's translation here (Thanks kewl!). I have a lot of things to say about it.
Rundown:
- Sumio enters the train to find three other people having dozed off then waking up. He also finds Matsurigi.
- The three others on the train (Mao Nanafushi, Tsutomu Akame, and a mysterious man with a safe to conceal his head), turn out to be complete assholes. Read the translation to see what I mean.
- A NEW TEST: The five are to compete against each other to make their way to the end of the line at Gaikotsu Island, where their Rewards shall be granted. Only one of the five will make it there, while the rest will be left behind in the stations between. The first stop is Muen Station. Here, the participants are required to purchase tickets at the station to carry forward on the train. There are only four of them available, however, and they only have 10 minutes to get them.
- It's also worth noting that all the participants are in the fifth car from the front. They're unable to move between the cars as the doors are locked between them. Could this mean that after every challenge, the next car opens for the remaining participants up until the first?

Speculation:
- If all the participants are here for a Reward at the end of the train, isn't there a possibility that Matsurigi too might actually try to deceive Sumio and take him out, as opposed to the two of them working together and then Matsurigi letting Sumio win? There's the possibility that Matsurigi won't make it as far as Sumio to the last challenge, but that doesn't change the fact that Matsurigi must be after a Reward too.
- Mao and Akame both seem to have murderous intents. Is it possible that granting the Rewards of the three newly introduced participants are part of the overall plot to extinguish the citizens of Yuyami City?


Conclusion:
Sakaki is stirring up another test for the characters to go through, but unlike the last test, only one person can succeed while the others will fail, and the participants are uncooperative with each other (obviously, apart from Sumio and Matsurigi). This is the chapter that's going to define what's going to happen over the next few months with the series. Overall, I actually like where this is going as I believe she has successfully managed to keep the suspense going
 
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Very interesting chapter

Interesting that we're getting another test, but I suppose that there is only so much that can be done with the talents without the series becoming a battle manga, which is entierly unnecessary. I do like how she's keeping it interesting by pitting the partcipants against each other and making the newbies a little bit...lower on the moral ladder than the Haiba's main gang.

I do wonder which of the three is cannibal. I sincerly doubt it;s the murderer since that would be WAAAAYYYY to obvious. The masked man seems suspicious but I;m still not too sure about him. Could end up being the girl just for a bit of a mind screw but I we'll see how that goes.

Worst case scenario would be that it;s Matsurugi...but I'd rather not think Cannibal managed to eat him.
 

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Very interesting chapter

I do wonder which of the three is cannibal. I sincerly doubt it;s the murderer since that would be WAAAAYYYY to obvious. The masked man seems suspicious but I;m still not too sure about him. Could end up being the girl just for a bit of a mind screw but I we'll see how that goes.

Worst case scenario would be that it;s Matsurugi...but I'd rather not think Cannibal managed to eat him.
Don't forget, the possibility that any one of the three are bearing the true identity of Cannibal is only a proposal based on the fact that Cannibal can steal other people's Talents/Abilities. It's still possible that Cannibal is actually a completely different entity.
 

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I have three theories about Cannibal's identity. One, it could be the girl. I think that's even more predictable than Safe Head being Cannibal, because Safe Head is too obvious. Two, it could be Matsurugi, or Cannibal pretending to be Matsurugi. Three, Cannibal could be the corpse in the bag. That plot twist would be similar to the end of SAW, where the killer ended up being the corpse laying in the middle of the room the entire movie.
 

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I have three theories about Cannibal's identity. One, it could be the girl. I think that's even more predictable than Safe Head being Cannibal, because Safe Head is too obvious. Two, it could be Matsurugi, or Cannibal pretending to be Matsurugi. Three, Cannibal could be the corpse in the bag. That plot twist would be similar to the end of SAW, where the killer ended up being the corpse laying in the middle of the room the entire movie.
I agree it's not Safe Head, and that he's probably a red herring making the girl the most likely canidate unless Matsurugi is Cannibal. Then again Cannibal didn;t recognize Sumio right away and matsurgi acknowleged him right off the bat so it;s probably not him. I do wonder who safe head is though...
 

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If indeed Cannibal is among them then Safe Head seems like an ally - wildest guess is Haiba's dad - but yeah I'm of the opinion Cannibal is either the girl or possibly but sadly Matsurugi.

Matsurugi seems just as likely since he added a new detail about Cannibal eating a person... Namely taking their shape which is something nobody would really know. Second one is that to keep Haiba from discovering who the person was he was told not to look. Which in itself is weird since it could give you an idea of Cannibal's identity if he indeed has taken the form of the person he's devoured. This is bothersome since... wouldn't there be the possibility of Haiba reading the mind of the boneless person? I mean they seem to still be alive after all. Third, Matsurugi calls the criminal trash... That to me is striking since Matsurugi is this optimist about people from the way he was introduced. For him to call a person trash seems out of character to me. Fourth, Matsurugi would easily be the person who could get close to Haiba which is exactly what Cannibal wants in order to acquire the skull. Well this is just my four guesses anyways as to why it could possibly be Matsurugi - though I am hoping not since that would just be too sad :__________________: Things could change depending on who has the most useful talent.

Still biggest problem with theory is that "Matsurugi" has information on Kurisu and Moto - as he mentions both names - so he seemingly has information that Matsurugi should have. Though there are two possibilities to look at a) Cannibal also takes the memories of the people he devours b) he has been spying on them or c) he also has gained an ability to read memories or thoughts.

Criminal well is possible but dunno he just doesn't stand out too much, then again that is what you'd be after. Hm perhaps we won't be getting too much of a flash back here of the new characters since it could possibly reveal who cannibal is.
 
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I think it's kind of odd how Matsurigi is involved. Why would he have a baseball bat... in a hospital? Why would Matsurigi's destiny be affected by the skull, but not the other e-test participants (bar Sumio and Shigeru)? It's not like his ability is the most useful. Why would he know about Cannibal being able to take on other peoples' appearances? He seemed surprised by the corpse, so he probably didn't put it there on purpose. It's possible that the Enigma skull warped Cannibal's destiny by putting Matsurigi's corpse on the train (so Sumio will... eventually figure it out). It's also suspicious how Matsurigi wasn't in the "Someone is... Cannibal...!?" splitscreen. Sakaki definitely tried to draw attention away from him.

As for my theory of the test, I believe that the murderer will be the first to go. He's not Cannibal. What kind of a plot twist would that be? A murderer ending up being a murderer. Go figure, right? He's just a filler character made to show how the stakes are higher in this test. The girl will be second to go. After that we will find out that Matsurigi is Cannibal, and he will be the third to go. Safe Man and Sumio will be the final two, and we'll find out that Safe Man is Sumio's dad. Sumio will naturally be the one to make it to the island.

I don't know how Shigeru or the disappearance of the city will tie into this arc. Sakaki is a really good author, though, so I'm not worried.
 
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Just when I thought I couldn't like a character more than Pit-kun

Along comes Safe Head

I think the guy and girl are both gonna be in on it, and safe head's an ally.
 

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I think it's kind of odd how Matsurugi is involved. Why would he have a baseball bat... in a hospital? Why would Matsurugi's destiny be affected by the skull, but not the other e-test participants (bar Sumio and Shigeru)? It's not like his ability is the most useful. Why would he know about Cannibal being able to take on other peoples' appearances? He seemed surprised by the corpse, so he probably didn't put it there on purpose. It's possible that the Enigma skull warped Cannibal's destiny by putting Matsurugi's corpse on the train (so Sumio will... eventually figure it out). It's also suspicious how Matsurugi wasn't in the "Someone is... Cannibal...!?" splitscreen. Sakaki definitely tried to draw attention away from him.
Nice theories. The parts I highlighted in bold really got me.

As for my theory of the test, I believe that the murderer will be the first to go. He's not Cannibal. What kind of a plot twist would that be? A murderer ending up being a murderer. Go figure, right? He's just a filler character made to show how the stakes are higher in this test. The girl will be second to go. After that we will find out that Matsurugi is Cannibal, and he will be the third to go. Safe Man and Sumio will be the final two, and we'll find out that Safe Man is Sumio's dad. Sumio will naturally be the one to make it to the island.

I don't know how Shigeru or the disappearance of the city will tie into this arc. Sakaki is a really good author, though, so I'm not worried.
In increasing order, here's how screwed up I think the three new characters may be:
1. Mao Nanafushi (the girl)
I think she's the true filler character. Her ultimate wish to murder some of her classmates sets the bar pretty low on how screwed up the new characters may be. That is, I think she'll turn out relatively unimportant compared to Akame and the Safe Man, who may be after much worse things.
2. Tsutomu Akame
He's a convicted murderer with his murderous intent seemingly unchanged, as proven when he took Sumio hostage. He can't possibly be up to any good.
3. The Safe Man
He's already proven himself to be two-faced with his classy arrogance. With no descriptions on his background and few words or actions coming out of him, there's no limit to how potentially screwed up he may turn out to be later in the story.

Based on that, I'm predicting the order of elimination would go like this:
1. Mao Nanafushi
2. Tsutomu Akame
3. Jiro Matsurigi
4. The Safe Man

Basically, the more screwed up the participant, the more likely they'll stay on the train longer because there's more character development that can occur within them through the test. I'm predicting a one-on-one fight in the last challenge with Sumio and the most screwed up character of them all, the Safe Man. I'm also going to assume Sumio wins the challenge. That's why I rank Matsurigi second last eliminated.

Of course, with the nature of this manga, I can explain many other possibilities with plausible theories out of the blue for each and it would have just as much of a chance occurring instead.
 
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Chapter 46 title page. I noticed something interesting about it. Let's see if you guys notice it too. :)

About the chapter:

Matsurigi and Cannibal were never in the same scene. Cannirigi could've snuck inside the train, killed Annoying Girl, and snuck back out in time to act surprised by the time Sumio got there.

Annoying Girl was put in the same type of bag as the first victim. That sort of supports my theory that Matsurigi is dead. Who else would be in Cannibal's first bag?
 

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Chapter 46 title page. I noticed something interesting about it. Let's see if you guys notice it too. :)

About the chapter:

Matsurigi and Cannibal were never in the same scene. Cannirigi could've snuck inside the train, killed Annoying Girl, and snuck back out in time to act surprised by the time Sumio got there.

Annoying Girl was put in the same type of bag as the first victim. That sort of supports my theory that Matsurigi is dead. Who else would be in Cannibal's first bag?
I noticed that right away. However, I don't know what the title page has to do with it as well. On a side note, I think it looks like a great movie poster. :P

The fact that he was smiling at Sumio upon his return to the train also seemed suspicious to me. Shouldn't Matsurigi be giving a surprised look at Sumio instead of a smile upon seeing him?

By the way, I think I just found something interesting about Safe Head, though it's not related to the current chapter in particular:
If you look at the silhouette of Sumio's dad from Chapter 44, you might notice that he and Safe Head have about the same clothing. Also, he seems to have a gentleman's personality and gets offended by girls who think he is a pervert. Wouldn't this be the perfect personality for Sumio's dad?

Finally, we all know Safe Head doesn't want Sumio to touch him, and we know he already knows Sumio's identity. Adding on to this the theory that Matsurigi is Cannibal, if Safe Head is really Sumio's father, he might have thwarted Sumio away from him for a good reason: to keep Sumio from knowing his identity and blurting it out to Matsurigi aka Cannibal.

Here's something else I've found about Mao Nanafushi, though it's not relevant to the plot. Have you noticed her clothes are always drawn in horizontal and vertical lines, regardless of the angle of her clothing?
 
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Could be Sakaki's acchilles heel acting up again. Either that, or it's her crafty mind at work again.
 
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