Discussion Estimating Characters PL

[ShadowHeart]

I don't want to talk about PL. But based on the last chapter, we can agree that Ludociel is stronger than Elizabeth, right? He was clearly considered their best fighter until Mael's growth.

So much for the goddess clan. Nakaba should've really named them the Angel clan.

 

[HereNThere]

How strong do you guys think Arthur with Excalibur is?

I'm going to say that Excalibur probably just upped his spirit stat a bit, but nothing else.

 

[Kay3795]

I'm going to say that Excalibur probably just upped his spirit stat a bit, but nothing else.

He does get nifty abilities from the Heroes from the past so I'd say he gets a considerable power up from it, but since he's untrained, it breaks his body. I say it's like Kings ST release (before Goxinia powered him up).

 

[Aetherventus258]

What will the PL of zeldris be now that he does not have the decree of "piety"?

 

[Demonspeed]

What will the PL of zeldris be now that he does not have the decree of "piety"?

61000.

 

[Aetherventus258]

61000.

an explanation would have to be given as to why his decree did not raise the PL

 

[Demonspeed]

an explanation would have to be given as to why his decree did not raise the PL

It's simple. Decrees don't raise PL, unless when they are absorbed.

 

[Aetherventus258]

It's simple. Decrees don't raise PL, unless when they are absorbed.

zeldris should have absorbed his decree to become part of the 10 Commandments, because I don't think the decrees will be activated if the bearer hasn't absorbed them.

 

[Demonspeed]

zeldris should have absorbed his decree to become part of the 10 Commandments, because I don't think the decrees will be activated if the bearer hasn't absorbed them.

And you say this because? Once a decree is absorbed its special ability disappears with it.

 

[Aetherventus258]

And you say this because?

because I don't see a way for the decrees to be activated if the bearer hasn't absorbed them. It would be like making a weapon that could fire with the safety on.

 

[Demonspeed]

because I don't see a way for the decrees to be activated if the bearer hasn't absorbed them. It would be like making a weapon that could fire with the safety on.

Well, so far there is nothing really supporting that theory. If Commandments make you so strong then what do you think was Galan's PL?

 

[HereNThere]

I assume the manner in which the decrees are given/absorbed is what determines their effect on the person. Either that, or the strength increase only comes when you have two or more Commandments.

 

[Aetherventus258]

Well, so far there is nothing really supporting that theory. If Commandments make you so strong then what do you think was Galan's PL?

as it should have been more than 50k if we talked about the gallant before the seal + decree, but without the decree, I would say that 30k or 35k

 

[Demonspeed]

as it should have been more than 50k if we talked about the gallant before the seal + decree, but without the decree, I would say that 30k or 35k

Galan's PL at full power is 27K.

 

[Aetherventus258]

Galan's PL at full power is 27K.

We were confirmed that this was the total PL of galan without the decree and was the power he had before being sealed along with the demon clan?

 

[Demonspeed]

We were confirmed that this was the total PL of galan without the decree and was the power he had before being sealed along with the demon clan?

It was confirmed in the fan book. Decrees never mattered. I am asking you, since you believe that once you have a decree you immediately get stronger. What was his PL without one? Even when he came back, his PL was 26K and Truth was working, he recovered his 1000 in Magic later. Against Escanor, with Magic recovered his PL was 40000. And he can reach 40K only when using Critical Over, which is temporary.

 

[Gavin]

It was confirmed in the fan book. Decrees never mattered. I am asking you, since you believe that once you have a decree you immediately get stronger. What was his PL without one? Even when he came back, his PL was 26K and Truth was working, he recovered his 1000 in Magic later. Against Escanor, with Magic recovered his PL was 40000. And he can reach 40K only when using Critical Over, which is temporary.

Dolor joined the Demon clan so he could become stronger iirc.

 

[Aetherventus258]

It was confirmed in the fan book. Decrees never mattered. I am asking you, since you believe that once you have a decree you immediately get stronger. What was his PL without one? Even when he came back, his PL was 26K and Truth was working, he recovered his 1000 in Magic later. Against Escanor, with Magic recovered his PL was 40000. And he can reach 40K only when using Critical Over, which is temporary.

and the case of estarossa who? if the decrees do not raise the PL because he was able to reach 88k? and galan was part of the original 10 commandments, which suggests that he had already absorbed the decree of truth.

 

[Demonspeed]

Dolor joined the Demon clan so he could become stronger iirc.

That's not what Dolor said to Diane. Anyway, I am talking about Galan.

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and the case of estarossa who? if the decrees do not raise the PL because he was able to reach 88k? and galan was part of the original 10 commandments, which suggests that he had already absorbed the decree of truth.

Because he absorbed them as I said? If decrees raise PL instantly like that, then what was Galan's PL without one? You still haven't answered. If you think about it, you realize that it doesn't make sense at all.

 

[HereNThere]

There's also Merascylla, who still has her Commandment, but was rendered powerless by Eli purifying her. We can assume that if someone took Faith and absorbed it, they'd still get the power up, despite her being a simple snake now with no power.

Commandments, at least by themselves, don't seem to influence overall power level.