Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Axiomus]

It seems most of the ice encased the golem, as there are some of portion of Ajeel's outer hair that isn't encased with the ice if I'm nitpicking. but you made a fair point on that one where we see the panel full on hand. I don't think he's fully encased since the tip point of his hair isn't connected with the ice just most of his body. However, I can see where you're coming from.

Gray's ice are drawn as spikes. Those run off-page. The block thing-y you see is part of the golem's head.

 

[Indira]

Gray's ice are drawn as spikes. Those run off-page. The block thing-y you see is part of the golem's head.

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Here's the zoom in what I'm talking about. The outer portion of the Ajeel's spiky weird hair isn't incased with the ice. It covers only a portion of his hair, and mostly his face and body.

This doesn't run off the page, as we can see a dark outliner that shows the starting of the panel.

Keep in mind, I'm being pretty nitpicky, but it's something to take into consideration.

 

[Axiomus]

Spoiler

Here's the zoom in what I'm talking about. The outer portion of the Ajeel's spiky weird hair isn't incased with the ice. It covers only a portion of his hair, and mostly his face and body.

This doesn't run off the page, as we can see a dark outliner that shows the starting of the panel.

Keep in mind, I'm being pretty nitpicky, but it's something to take into consideration.

The block shape thing that Ajeel's head hair is sticking out of is the ring around the Golem's head. Ajeel is standing in front of that structure. I'll color in the image with a paint tool to show you what I mean.

Spoiler: Golem (notice the ring around the head)

Spoiler: Outline of Golem's head against Gray's ice

 

[Indira]

The block shape thing that Ajeel's head hair is sticking out of is the ring around the Golem's head. Ajeel is standing in front of that structure. I'll color in the image with a paint tool to show you what I mean.

Spoiler: Golem (notice the ring around the head)

Spoiler: Outline of Golem's head against Gray's ice

Good point Axiomus you intellectual bastard. So it seems it could've been part of the ring. The thing is the lines don't completely connect each other compared to the first panel you shown (since there's a bit of opening to where Ajeel's outer spiky hair is at), so the drawn image of Golem's outer head where the rings are corresponding to each other it's not completely consistent compared to the first panel hence the confusion, and hence the implication he is only 90 percent encased.

 

[~Charging Lightning~]

No, we already know
Ajeel is the weakest because he fought erza. And we all know erza is Mary Sue of fairy tail.
If Bradman was weak, mishma would have made him fight erza obviously

And we also know for a fact Serena is upper tier springgan.

Fixed for ya

Are there really people who are putting Ikatsunagi on spriggan level? :S

I don't think I would classify Ikatsunagi as Spriggan level overall, but his durability at the very least is Spriggan level. A nakama filled charged up punch from base Natsu didn't faze him while Jacob and Ajeel both were shown to have taken some degree of damage from a base Natsu punch. I kinda feel like Ikatsunagi is slept on by people because he got one shot by an FDK demolition fist. I'm not saying that you underrate him (cuz I know that you're too fair to underate a character ), I just think that people unfairly regard him as a weakling.

 

[TeamWendy]

No, we already know
Ajeel is the weakest because he fought erza. And we all know erza is Sakura of fairy tail.
If Bradman was weak, mishma would have made him fight erza obviously

And we also know for a fact Serena is upper tier springgan.

So by your logic, you're saying that if you are stronger then you will win? Obviously "who is stronger?" and "who will win?" are different questions you can win even you're not stronger than your opponent depends on the type of magic that you have, skills, and strategic ability. Erza is a swordswoman, what can a sword do to sand? Clearly we saw Ajeel to be vulnerable to water so can assume that Juvia can put a better fight against him than Erza did, so does that mean Juvia is stronger than Erza?? NO, obviously Erza>>>>>Juvia and also Ajeel>>>>>>Juvia but Juvia has the potential to beat Ajeel even she's not stronger than him. It's just because of the type of magic that she has.

 

[Crimson Ice]

Juvia isn't beating Ajeel on her best day and Ajeel's worst lol. Ajeel gets soo much shit it's funny, people make it seem like he's not even Spirggan level.

 

[Brandish μ]

With the war reset I think Ajeel and Jacob will go up in the ranks, just like Neinhart did by making 3 Spriggans.

August, Irene, Larcade
Other 9 shields

Even on current feats I don't rate God Serena much above Ajeel. I wouldn't even bother with a new tier, they're close enough.

 

[Summer]

Juvia isn't beating Ajeel on her best day and Ajeel's worst lol. Ajeel gets soo much shit it's funny, people make it seem like he's not even Spirggan level.

Ikr.... I think ajeel is so underrated.... so underrated to the point they think that juvia could defeat him on her own .
What he have shown so far is impressive . Without that shitty personality he would be a powerhouse .

I would rank him above dimaria ( without hax ) and Jacob (without hax ).

 

[PeanutButterJelly]

Brandish is the one who says he's the strongest individual. As for the beach who was the one who ended up shutting up and listening to the other.

It depends on how you view it. What Brandish said (correct me if I'm wrong)is that August COULD be called the strongest induvidual , but Irene is someone who can match him.

Backing off doesn't mean she's weaker,maybe she did it so she wouldn't start a conflict between them,since she wants a swift end to the war.

 

[Kiki]

I saw that as Ajeel being able to escape from Gray's ice by drying up his ice. Ajeel did get frozen by Gray, look at him being grey-colored like Mavis getting frozen by Invel.

Spoiler: Ajeel getting frozen by Gray

Also notice the red circles I made. They show the glossiness of Gray's ice.

Spoiler: Mavis getting frozen by Invel

They all were grey-colored.
Ajeel's sand has dehydrating nature. Re-read the Erza vs Ajeel chapter again. And Ajeel actually had ever dehydrated Gray's ice back in Escape Battle chapter.

Spoiler: Ajeel's sand dehydrating Gray's ice

I'd say Ajeel is a bad match-up for Gray.

 

[Jko]

Upgrade in power. You know, the power to completely and utterly overwhelm someone of Mards caliber.

That's because he's a lot stronger w/o his DF than he was when he fought in OS with DF. Base GMG Natsu would rolfstomp OS DF Natsu and Tenrou Natsu at the same time faster than he did against the twins.

Where? All I see is Natsu and Erza being surprised at her magic (God Slaying Magic) and Natsu also additionally being surprised that she can heal.

Erza was sweating from the MP Sherria could produce

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and Natsu was sweating at how strong Sherria was. He already found out her magic in the first couple of pages yet came back with like two extra shocked faces. No way OS Natsu had the ability to beat Sherria.

Natsu had zero wear marks and one drop of sweat which could have just as easily been attributed to his amazement at Maxs power. Pretty obvious that Natsu just confidently charged at Max, threw a couple of failed punches and then got pushed back and/or tripped, far from a serious fight.

Natsu was sweating and trying his hardest. He could only win by using his most powerful attack in LFD.

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In no way was Natsu strong enough to kill em.

Where was it stated that the only way for Natsu to overpower Max was to go LFD? If he used even a fraction of his MP towards a regular fire roar Max would have been similarly screwed.

It was practically a given and it was stated that Natsu was being overpowered in base.

Base Ezel isn't.

Yes, he is. None of the 7kin could mess with GMG Gray nor GMG Natsu and yet two basic tier 9Ds gave them high diff fights. Keith was owning Gray and Jackal KOed Natsu.

How does Ezel being able to slash through anything put Wendy at a major disadvantage? And since when could Ezel slash through anything?

Bcs if he slashes through solid rocks like butter cutting through wind should be a cake walk for someone like Ezel.

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Why wouldn't Meredy have SO? She was chilling with Ultear for 7 years, are you seriously telling me its safer to assume that she does not have SO then she does? Meredy was portrayed as current Juvias (base) equal, current Juvia is stronger then Tartarus Wendy. Furthermore, current Juvia is also leagues ahead of Max. Do you seriously believe that Meredy, a member of the organization who's goal is to destroy Zeref, is weaker then Max? Frankly its a little absurd. If you want to argue that Meredy cooked lunch and dinner while the rest of the organization trained so be it. I simply disagree.

Bcs she has shown no improvement that suggested otherwise. How was she portrayed equal to Juvia? She was getting banged by Zancrow while Juvia was just on the defensive against Keith bcs she couldn't hit him. Keith >>> Zancrow too as 9D >>>>> 7Kin. Until she actually shows something that puts her at least above basic GMG tier characters then no, I don't see her training to beat Zeref actually amounting to anything.

Like I said, it could have been a warning shot, but its still trash. As for his physical attacks, he did not do a whole lot physically to his opponents. He just stood there and tanked attacks.

His physical "warning shots" weren't impressive either. Nor did he do that with his magical attacks.

Like I said, roars like those would be a double edged sword.

How?

 

[Woodenstool]

The block shape thing that Ajeel's head hair is sticking out of is the ring around the Golem's head. Ajeel is standing in front of that structure. I'll color in the image with a paint tool to show you what I mean.

Spoiler: Golem (notice the ring around the head)

Spoiler: Outline of Golem's head against Gray's ice

Ajeel did get frozen, do you not see the color difference when he was frozen?

http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/446/19
His hair got lighter.

 

[Demon Hunter]

Ajeel did get frozen, do you not see the color difference when he was frozen?

http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/446/19
His hair got lighter.

actually, he/she is saying that Ajeel was frozen. just look up in the previous page and you will see that he/she said Ajeel was frozen.

 

[Axiomus]

Ajeel did get frozen, do you not see the color difference when he was frozen?

http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/446/19
His hair got lighter.

I am saying Ajeel was frozen. I even colored in the ice to show he was. Now I did notice the change in hair color, but I figured that showing the crack in the ice where Ajeel broke free and how the ice was covering him was enough to make a point.

 

[Alvarez Princess]

I saw that as Ajeel being able to escape from Gray's ice by drying up his ice. Ajeel did get frozen by Gray, look at him being grey-colored like Mavis getting frozen by Invel.

Spoiler: Ajeel getting frozen by Gray

Also notice the red circles I made. They show the glossiness of Gray's ice.

Spoiler: Mavis getting frozen by Invel

They all were grey-colored.
Ajeel's sand has dehydrating nature. Re-read the Erza vs Ajeel chapter again. And Ajeel actually had ever dehydrated Gray's ice back in Escape Battle chapter.

Spoiler: Ajeel's sand dehydrating Gray's ice

I'd say Ajeel is a bad match-up for Gray.

We can't really say a character is a bad match up for another until we see said character's full power in action. That's my criteria for this. Once we see a chararacter's full strength then we can judge and assume whether he's a bad match up for another or not, not just show some panels of a disadvantage and claim at as such.

 

[Kiki]

We can't really say a character is a bad match up for another until we see said character's full power in action. That's my criteria for this. Once we see a chararacter's full strength then we can judge and assume whether he's a bad match up for another or not, not just show some panels of a disadvantage.

That was just my 2 cents tbh. I was just trying to provide some panels proving that Ajeel did get frozen and he broke the ice. I agreed with @extremebegins123 and @Axiomus.

You could be right. Wall Eehto was said to be a bad match-up for Laxus by Freed yet he proved it wrong.

 

[Alvarez Princess]

That was just my 2 cents tbh. I was just trying to provide some panels proving that Ajeel did get frozen and he broke the ice. I agreed with @extremebegins123 and @Axiomus.

You could be right. Wall Eehto was said to be a bad match-up for Laxus by Freed yet he proved it wrong.

Rufus was also said to be a bad match up for Gray but still got two shotted by the latter. My point is just because one character is in a disadvantage against another doesn't mean they can't come up on top.

 

[Woodenstool]

Ranked by feats, not by titles.
1.Acnologia/Zeref
2. Gildarts
3. God Serena
4. Irene
5. August

"Why God Serena so high?"

Dragon slayers can consume their own ability. Irene's fireball is made of rock and fire both of which God Serena has as magic 'ammo'. Same applies with August, the only feat he shown was fire based and God Serna can eat it.

"Gildarts is overrated"

Based on feats he's really strong, he can cancel out any spell Irene, August and Irene uses. He has the highest durability of a human character because he survived Acnologia.

When FT attacked with all their power, Gildarts said and I quote "No, it's not using its power when it fought me, it's playing with us"
What I got from this that Gildarts fought dragon Acnologia when he/Acnologia displayed some power.
Irene only threw a fireball at Acnologia which pushed him back that 3 dragons slayers from Tenro arc could do, that's not impressive at all. And Acnologoa got pushed back in dragon form back in the day.

Insane speed feats, immense strength, casual mountain busting punches. Combined those two and he throw out multiple mountain busting punches instantaneously.

August is stated to know a lot of magic stated by Makarov and Jura who don't even know who he is but he probably does. Having tons of spells in your arensal doesn't mean jack sh*t if Gildarts cancels it out. It doesn't mean jack sh*t if Gildarts speed blitz and throws mountain busting punches faster than they can react.


http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net..._attack.gif/revision/latest?cb=20140615221949

This is Gildarts moving so fast that he's already several feet away from Natsu and attacking with a powerful unnamed punch.

"Show panels and Kotsh isn't cannon"

Kotsh is cannon and if you want panel than read Ice trail on mangapanda and read "traveling alone" chapters.

 

[Boomburst]

Ranked by feats, not by titles.
1.Acnologia/Zeref
2. Gildarts
3. God Serena
4. Irene
5. August

"Why God Serena so high?"

Dragon slayers can consume their own ability. Irene's fireball is made of rock and fire both of which God Serena has as magic 'ammo'. Same applies with August, the only feat he shown was fire based and God Serna can eat it.

"Gildarts is overrated"

Based on feats he's really strong, he can cancel out any spell Irene, August and Irene uses. He has the highest durability of a human character because he survived Acnologia.

When FT attacked with all their power, Gildarts said and I quote "No, it's not using its power when it fought me, it's playing with us"
What I got from this that Gildarts fought dragon Acnologia when he/Acnologia displayed some power.
Irene only threw a fireball at Acnologia which pushed him back that 3 dragons slayers from Tenro arc could do, that's not impressive at all. And Acnologoa got pushed back in dragon form back in the day.

Insane speed feats, immense strength, casual mountain busting punches. Combined those two and he throw out multiple mountain busting punches instantaneously.

August is stated to know a lot of magic stated by Makarov and Jura who don't even know who he is but he probably does. Having tons of spells in your arensal doesn't mean jack sh*t if Gildarts cancels it out. It doesn't mean jack sh*t if Gildarts speed blitz and throws mountain busting punches faster than they can react.


http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net..._attack.gif/revision/latest?cb=20140615221949

This is Gildarts moving so fast that he's already several feet away from Natsu and attacking with a powerful unnamed punch.

"Show panels and Kotsh isn't cannon"

Kotsh is cannon and if you want panel than read Ice trail on mangapanda and read "traveling alone" chapters.

August has been stated to know pretty much every type of magic, so your baseless assumption that all he can do is use fire magic is completely absurd. The same can be said of Irene, she's shown that she can use different spells and it's just silly to assume that her only offensive magic is a fireball.

Yea sure Gildarts survived Acnologia but he lost half his limbs in the process. Nice durability he's got there.

Your only proof that you've provided for Gildarts being able to throw casual mountain busting punches is the silent chapter with Natsu, where he was clearly being serious (you can easily tell by his facial expression, he had veins popping out and shit) and we don't even know if that area he destroyed was even the whole mountain.

Gildarts using Crash to disassemble any spell is complete bullshit. As far as I recall the only spell we've ever seen him disassemble was Natsu's roar, which is a spell that has a physical form. There are plenty of types of magic that don't have physical forms, like Brandish's size manipulation magic, Mest's memory manipulation magic, Dimaria's time magic, etc. To claim that Gildarts can just neutralize literally any type of magic that is used against him with Crash is completely ridiculous.