Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Ramen]

It depends. By my logic If she takes over a demon that is already half-dead or a demon that was defeated by someone else then she is using burrowed powers, if she beats it and then take over then no.

That's her magic tho. It's takeover.

Using this logic, DeS for Gray is still a borrowed power-up.

Or the Dual-Elements for DS.

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

Using this logic, DeS for Gray is still a borrowed power-up.

Or the Dual-Elements for DS.

I think DES as burrowed power

 

[Ramen]

I think DES as burrowed power

It was initially, but then it becomes his as he needs to use his own MP and needs to train it himself.

 

[grey matter]

She used the swords barely. Literally right after she switched to her own armours.

Yesterday you said the DS secret arts barely wasted his magic now you say significant? Pick a side.

So does Mira only use external powers since she uses takeover?

But Laxus was the one who called BS on his own power-up.

Downplaying Erza to a whole new level

Mira's power is take-over. Yes, she's technically using external powers; except she has access to them whenever she wants. So, for all practical purposes, those are her own powers.
Erza can access Natsu and Gray sword only through prepping those swords from Natsu and Gray beforehand. Erza can't gain Dragon seal except through Wendy. It's not that hard to understand.

I said Laxus likely used up 5-10% of his magic power against Kiria. That makes the difference in the end. It's irrelevant when you just consider Laxus vs Kiria as a standalone case, but when you add up the fight he had with Erza, clearly it is relevant

Laxus called BS on what?

You're just wanking Erza, giving attributing to her, powers that are not her's.
The fact is that Erza needed multiple external boosts, while Laxus fought solely through his own powers.
There is a reason why Erzza wanted help to fight Laxus, she clearly knew Laxus was beyond her.

 

[Ramen]

Mira's power is take-over. Yes, she's technically using external powers; except she has access to them whenever she wants. So, for all practical purposes, those are her own powers.
Erza can access Natsu and Gray sword only through prepping those swords from Natsu and Gray beforehand. Erza can't gain Dragon seal except through Wendy. It's not that hard to understand.

I said Laxus likely used up 5-10% of his magic power against Kiria. That makes the difference in the end. It's irrelevant when you just consider Laxus vs Kiria as a standalone case, but when you add up the fight he had with Erza, clearly it is relevant

Laxus called BS on what?

You're just wanking Erza, giving attributing to her, powers that are not her's.
The fact is that Erza needed multiple external boosts, while Laxus fought solely through his own powers.
There is a reason why Erzza wanted help to fight Laxus, she clearly knew Laxus was beyond her.

Laxus called BS on his own power-up.

Lol no I'm not. She barely used her swords, she switched to her heavens wheel and used that for the remainder of the fight.

It's her own power. Like what is so hard to understand? She has a sword that has the MAGIC of Natsu and Gray, not the MP. She is using her own MP with those swords.

That's for the orb, when she say's she needs help for an opening, she clearly means she would like someone to help her with the orb.

 

[Karna]

Laxus>Erza

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

Laxus called BS on his own power-up.

Laxus will beat the next powerful enemy with another BS lightning as well. Violet Lightning which goes beyond time and space.

 

[Ramen]

Laxus will beat the next powerful enemy with another BS lightning as well. Violet Lightning which goes beyond time and space.

That would be sick.

Then Jellal can get his head stomped on agaun

 

[Fyron]

In my opinion , the power ranking list should go like this :

1) Acnologia/Igneel.
2) DF Natsu
3) Zeref/WW
4) August/Dragon Irene
5) Gildarts
6) Human Irene/Erza/Laxus/Larcade
7) Brandish/Dimaria
8) Base Natsu
9) Gray/Gajeel.

I consider Erza's meteor feat to be an outlier. ( Similar to Thor's star level feat ).

And I feel since this is a shounen manga , at least DF Natsu should have surpassed everyone else in the series bar Acno and Igneel. DF was consistently portrayed as OP since the beginning of the series. Even if he isn't a match for the upper tiers without DF , I think with DF he should be above them . You know , shounen tropes.

And finally , my opinion regarding the two ( notorious ) PIS feats of Natsu :Against Zeref and Acnologia.

I don't consider either of them for powerscaling. Reasons , against Zeref , we saw that his guild mark was glowing at that time. That suggests he might have gotten a power up because he was inside the guild. Guild mark glowing represents he got power in a similar fashion to how the Tenrou team got back then against Acnologia. And similar to how the Tenrou tree used to boost the FT mages' MP. Fairy Tail has shown that it's capable of giving out power like this as it did on Tenrou . We don't know whether the same will work for Natsu if he's outside the guild.

Against Acnologia , well ... there isn't much I can say , but the fact that if the 7 Dragon Slayers really were capable of oneshotting Acnologia , then why doesn't Natsu just gather all of them and go oneshotting the god dragons in the same way ? He could end the quest in a single day. The fact he doesn't do that means the author doesn't consider the Acnologia fight canon. He doesn't want to consider that fight. He wants to retcon it. That's all I can say.

 

[aymen24]

Against Acnologia , well ... there isn't much I can say , but the fact that if the 7 Dragon Slayers really were capable of oneshotting Acnologia , then why doesn't Natsu just gather all of them and go oneshotting the god dragons in the same way ? He could end the quest in a single day. The fact he doesn't do that means the author doesn't consider the Acnologia fight canon. He doesn't want to consider that fight. He wants to retcon it. That's all I can say.

Against Acno, things are different
I don't think we can compare Acno's battle with what will happen with the five Dragons

Natsu and his co were fighting only the spirit of Acno, not the dragon form, for example, what happened against the water dragon.

Acno was paralyzed, unable to move and without defense

It was just one chance for them against him thanks to everyone on the continent.

I don't think they can do that against the five Dragons and they are in the dragon form, especially aldron

 

[Demon Hunter]

Fodder Zeref has no respect from me, even though I have his avi and sig

 

[Plutogrim]

Diablos ranking

Skullion > Madmole > Kyria > Wraith > Nebal

 

[Veni Vidi Vici]

Hi guys.
I still don't know why to divide characters in different forms when talking about power level, so every name in my list will consider their maximum level directly.

In my opinion, power level in Fairy Tail are messed up and unrealistic, but in average:
1) Natsu
2) Laxus/Gildarts
3) Erza/Gajil/Gray
4) Mira

 

[Karna]

Oof, we all know Gray is gonna make the fandom wild once he defeats Skullion in their rematch.

That said. Laxus>Any of the introduced with feats DEs with Skullion being mid-high diff. Unless anyone cares to enlighten me how Laxus can speed blitz him while intangible. Oh Lord of Lightning, pardon me for my doubt.

 

[Ebony Maw]

Diablos ranking

Skullion > Madmole > Kyria > Wraith > Nebal

Personally I'd rank Wraith higher to being on par with Skullion.

Wraith was only beaten due to very specific circumstances. Hell, had Natsu not been a Dragon Slayer he couldn't have even attempted to fight him. And its not like Wraith only has that going for him either, even if the opponent can see him they have to realise they can only affect him as a Thought Projection.

 

[Ramen]

Hi guys.
I still don't know why to divide characters in different forms when talking about power level, so every name in my list will consider their maximum level directly.

In my opinion, power level in Fairy Tail are messed up and unrealistic, but in average:
1) Natsu
2) Laxus/Gildarts
3) Erza/Gajil/Gray
4) Mira

Gildarts >> Laxus and Erza

Erza and Laxus should be close to equal

Gajeel=Gray=Mira

 

[GL_Nova]

Gildarts >> Laxus and Erza

Erza and Laxus should be close to equal

Gajeel=Gray=Mira

Close, with Laxus having the deeper Mana pool. Erza is gonna be really interesting by sequels end. The addition of enchantments kind of officially breaks her.

--- Double Post Merged, Jan 3, 2020, Original Post Date: Jan 3, 2020 ---

Yo, so with both the movies being canon. How does the Phoenix and the Dragon Cry adjust our understanding of the power scale?

 

[Ramen]

Close, with Laxus having the deeper Mana pool. Erza is gonna be really interesting by sequels end. The addition of enchantments kind of officially breaks her.

--- Double Post Merged, Jan 3, 2020, Original Post Date: Jan 3, 2020 ---

Yo, so with both the movies being canon. How does the Phoenix and the Dragon Cry adjust our understanding of the power scale?

Tbh I never watched them.

 

[Karna]

How does our boy Laxus fair against Skullion?

 

[Ramen]

How does our boy Laxus fair against Skullion?

All depends on his hax. But like Kyria he most likely will be able to bypass that.

I highly doubt he can freeze all of Laxus' lightning attacks since lightning isn't as much of a solid as Ice.

Plus with RL, I don't see Skullion doing much against that.

Laxus could also use his thunder body to bypass his intangibility.

Laxus mid diff