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@Verter , @grey matter , @aymen24
I post our discussion here to the powerlevel thread, before we spamm our discussion in the chapter thread which would be offtopic.
Canon wise we had a Acnologia who won a extrem high diff battle against Igneel who wasn´t even in his prime yet he believe he could still take out Acnologia:
Do we ignore all the feats and the whole fight with Igneel know and using downplay as "AcNoLoGiA JoBBEd aGaiNst IgNEEEeel" even though he didn´t jobbed?
The battle with Igneel was a major point for later when Acnologia face Natsu and get defeated by him and his friends, not only because they stopped hi
We have two times fight with Zeref vs Natsu and both times Zeref was asskicked.
First fight was Zeref vs powered Natsu with little power of Igneel, even then Natsu was able to smack Zeref around and almost kill him off.
Zeref was in same league as Natsu, yes White Zeref was probably stronger but get taking down duo plot, even then I don´t think the gap was such huge between White Zeref and Natsu.
Yet Zeref was nothing for Acnologia or the God Dragons if we going by statements and feats.
So what is your point?
All what we know is that Acno probably only take on Ishgar most like and Rouge didn´t know anything about the 5 God Dragons.
@aymen24
Nothing change, no the Fairy tail members even get stronger since Alvarez, Erza and Laxus are the best proof for it.
The whole flashback about Acno in the anime just show how he just slay off every Dragon who face him, yet he didn´t do the same with the Parent Dragons.
Alone his encounter with Igneel which end in a extrem high diff battle show that Acno was probably worried about to take down all Parent Dragons, so he use a soul seal magic to kill them and not a close combat battle as he always do before in the past when he killing mutliple Dragons in a directly battle.
Basically he said the same what I post here, Ignia don´t fear Acnologia in anyway, he was even planning to kill of Acno later but hear Natsu was the one who take him down so he try to battle of Natsu. Portrayal wise we had Erza and co who looking shocked when they get the info that Mercu wasn´t even in full power when he face them off, same Erza who was sure to take them down because they killing of Acnologia in previous arc:
In the moment where Ingia said that Mercu wasn´t even with full power/or had half power, Erza and co get totally shocked as they never face such a strong enemy even though Acno was the previous Enemy. I know that is most like a hype build up from the Mangaka, but it can still be use as argument here.
I don´t say that every God Dragon beeing stronger then Acno, but I can see at least one of them beeing stronger then Acnologia, portrayalwise it would make sense. But for sure the God Dragons are equal to Acnologia, in my opinion each of them are even stronger then Igneel.
I post our discussion here to the powerlevel thread, before we spamm our discussion in the chapter thread which would be offtopic.
Duo we know that he face the other continents aswell? We only learn the perspective of Future Rogue and we don´t know if the 5 God Dragons yet face Acnologia in the future.Again, canon get "fucked" by someone and Acno as ruler entire world (in alternative timeline) means anything.
Fact is that he kill of all the Dragons in physical fights(as we can see in your video which you show) and yet he use something else against the parent Dragons via using soul seal? Knowing Acnologia who almost attack every other Dragon in a physical encounter, why he use a soul seal against the parent Dragons?Maybe someone still didn't know about how Acno "didn't have ball to use physical strength on dragons, so he used tricks":
Canon wise we had a Acnologia who won a extrem high diff battle against Igneel who wasn´t even in his prime yet he believe he could still take out Acnologia:
Do we ignore all the feats and the whole fight with Igneel know and using downplay as "AcNoLoGiA JoBBEd aGaiNst IgNEEEeel" even though he didn´t jobbed?
The battle with Igneel was a major point for later when Acnologia face Natsu and get defeated by him and his friends, not only because they stopped hi
Good and all, but it doesn´t change the fact that Zeref wasn´t strong enough to take on Acnologia."WFT?!?" someone can say -> one who read manga long enough can freely answer: "it was just cheap hype with their 1st battle"
We have two times fight with Zeref vs Natsu and both times Zeref was asskicked.
First fight was Zeref vs powered Natsu with little power of Igneel, even then Natsu was able to smack Zeref around and almost kill him off.
Zeref was in same league as Natsu, yes White Zeref was probably stronger but get taking down duo plot, even then I don´t think the gap was such huge between White Zeref and Natsu.
Yet Zeref was nothing for Acnologia or the God Dragons if we going by statements and feats.
So what is your point?
But we don´t know exaclty know if Acno even fight with them in Rouge future.Acno did in fact rule the world in Future Rouge's time, so maybe he went there later and defeated them.
All what we know is that Acno probably only take on Ishgar most like and Rouge didn´t know anything about the 5 God Dragons.
@aymen24
I call this bs, basically the whole fight with Mercu was still about feelings and friendship shit which even Ignia laugh about Natsu statement off.The power of Natsu now is not the same as before
Because the writer now works without the power of feelings and the rest of the nonsense
Nothing change, no the Fairy tail members even get stronger since Alvarez, Erza and Laxus are the best proof for it.
Never said that his victory was only because of his hand, I know that Natsu get much help against Acno.His victory over acno was not only because of the severed hand....
It doesn´t make sense for Acno to use a soul magic to kill of the parent Dragons while he killing of the other Dragons in a close combat battle.I mean, you made him afraid of igneel and then the five dragons
who else
What a joke
-Acno didn't even recognize him as an enemy at first
The whole flashback about Acno in the anime just show how he just slay off every Dragon who face him, yet he didn´t do the same with the Parent Dragons.
Alone his encounter with Igneel which end in a extrem high diff battle show that Acno was probably worried about to take down all Parent Dragons, so he use a soul seal magic to kill them and not a close combat battle as he always do before in the past when he killing mutliple Dragons in a directly battle.
Never deny that it was Acnologia abilitiy, yet we don´t know how Acno use his ability against Igneel and co.This is one of his abilities
Do we delete this ability !!!!!
And we make it a trick!
So if he don´t recognize Igneel as strong enemy at first place, why he even bother to use a soul seal ability which totally speaks against Acnologia nature to kill of Dragons in a close combat battle?? Acnologia nature shows that he directly battle against any Dragon, why he throw this away when he face off the parent Dragons? Outside of fear it doesn´t would make anysense at this point.It is not as if igneel was asleep when his soul was extracted.
Obviously, when he extracted his soul, , he did not recognize him as a strong enemy at the time
It was the first time in Tartaros
It isn´t the opposite what I said here, yes Ignia state that all five God Dragons escape 400years ago, but we don´t know if they was back then childrens or adults. Fact is that also Ignia state this:The Five Dragons escaped 400 years ago from Acno
They were afraid of him
This is what ignia said
This is the opposite of what you say
Basically he said the same what I post here, Ignia don´t fear Acnologia in anyway, he was even planning to kill of Acno later but hear Natsu was the one who take him down so he try to battle of Natsu. Portrayal wise we had Erza and co who looking shocked when they get the info that Mercu wasn´t even in full power when he face them off, same Erza who was sure to take them down because they killing of Acnologia in previous arc:
In the moment where Ingia said that Mercu wasn´t even with full power/or had half power, Erza and co get totally shocked as they never face such a strong enemy even though Acno was the previous Enemy. I know that is most like a hype build up from the Mangaka, but it can still be use as argument here.
I don´t say that every God Dragon beeing stronger then Acno, but I can see at least one of them beeing stronger then Acnologia, portrayalwise it would make sense. But for sure the God Dragons are equal to Acnologia, in my opinion each of them are even stronger then Igneel.



