shouldn't BDKM natsu be higher than jacob, since natsu blizted him while it was active. Also gisdarts is still probably stronger than mira due to his stupid amounts of power
No, because although BDKM Natsu's attack is on Spriggan tier, if Jacob manages to use spatial magic before BDKM Natsu hits him (and he only has to join his hands), then he wins.
Glidartz is currently below Erza until proven otherwise but I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt since I'm a big fan.
i'd also argue base natsu is on sprrigan level. BDKM natsu is high spriggan level(possibly even august/irene level or atleast slightly below)
I'd agree with you that BDKM might be spriggan level. I can see him winning against the cqc specialists like Wahl or Ajeel. But BDKM Natsu does not have the skills + the intellect to beat hax based mages like Dimaria, Brandish, Jacob or Bradman.
Also, Base Natsu is high GoI tier but his only remarkable feats are oneshoting Bluenote and twoshotting the War of God, both of which are ranked Wizard Saints/GoI.
base natsu should atleast be higher than any of the 4 goi's since they were super folder,
I agree with you, if you consider their performance, they're supper fodder. For me, the GoI are on Base Natsu, Erza or Mira's tier. There's a pretty clear division on whether you consider the GoI strong or fodder, it's ok whatever you choose but your ranking is going to differ.
while base natsu has tanked a hit from august even though it was heat magic which natsu has great resistance too. If he wasn't on a very high level he wouldn't be able to with stand an attack of that magnitude without taking any damage. I mean natsu was damaged by the heat curse from the 9dg so he can be damaged from heat based spells.
Natsu tanked a nuke from August that he should've negated since its element was fire-based but still it managed to hurt him and he couldn't negate it completely or eat it to power up. Also, August is being downplayed based on his performance, but he's still pretty much featless so let's not rush to conclusions!
Also, current base Natsu should be superior to Tartaros DF Natsu, this is how much he's improved.
the goi on the otherhand were heavily damaged by a non try hard god serena and where blizted quiet quickly once he started trying
That's one way to put it. Since I consider God Serena well superior to the average Spriggan, and I rank him fourth-fifth, with a vast difference between him and Ajeel/Wahl; then my ranking still make sense.
Also, the fact Natsu was capable of somewhat negating August's attack is too little a feat to take into account atm.
Even the merit of blocking such a massive attack should be more than the goi, who honestly got wrecked by attacks no where near that cailibur
Your logic is valid and you may well put him above GoI tier, I suggest that we wait a little though.
I believe I've done this one already, but things changed. My ranking of Fairy Tail mages:
1). Mirajane
2). Laxus
3). Gildarts
4). FDKM Natsu
5). DF Wendy
6). DF Natsu
7). Freed
8). Gray
9). Gajeel
10). Base Natsu
11). Erza
12). Bickslow
13). Evergreen
14). Juvia
15). Base Wendy
16). Lucy
And then the rest.
Wow... respectfully, that's a little messy isn't it??
On the one hand, why is Mira higher than Laxus? It's not like she defeated a Spriggan, unlike Laxus. Stating she's got more MP because she made a small portion of the sea step back or even evaporate it is not like it's going to make her win against a Spriggan caliber character, like Laxus. I mean Laxus is faster, stronger and probably has a similar amount of MP. Similarly, BDKM Natsu also evaporated a lake, but this time we had clear panels that showed the evaporation, so if you're judging on raw MP, Natsu should be above.
Also, where's Makarov? I'd still rank him above Bickslow, Ever, Base Wendy or even Lucy.
Why is Freed above Gray when the Raijinshuu had trouble taking on Wahl's machines, and Gray could probably fight 1 vs 1 a spriggan in his DeS mode? Also, Freed should be below Gajeel. I know Freed is usually severely downplayed but hey he's not that strong, Particularly after the timeskip he must've lagged behind. I mean he must be DF Wendy level AT MOST so he (and she) should be below in that list.
DF Wendy is equal or slightly superior to Juvia, and Juvia is slightly superior to Freed IMO.
Base Natsu should be above base Gray and Gajeel and weeell above Freed. Also likely above Tartaros DF Natsu, and above DF Wendy, don't you think?
Erza below Base Natsu is something I can understand, but below base Gajeel, base Gray or Freed... I mean Erza would fodderize Freed. Also current Erza should be above DF Wendy.
Your list would be more accurate like this:
1). Glidartz (hype, unrealistic)
2). Laxus
3). FDKM Natsu
4). DF Gajeel
5). Mirajane
6). DeS Gray
7). Base Natsu
8). Erza
9). Glidartz (Tartaros)
10). Base Natsu
11). DF Natsu (Tartaros)
12). Gajeel
13). Gray
14). DF Wendy
15). Juvia
16). Lucy (she can summon 3 spirits, Urano Metria, stardresses, if in need even CSK)
17). Freed
18). Evergreen, Bickslow, Elfman, Cana
19). Lisanna, Max, Base Wendy
Makarov would fall right after DF Natsu (Tartaros).
