Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

Which side are you on?

  • Team Spriggan 12

    Votes: 48 51.6%
  • Team Diabolos/Dragon Eaters

    Votes: 45 48.4%

  • Total voters
    93

PeanutButterJelly

Registered User
英雄メンバー / Eiyuu Menbaa / Hero Member
Joined
Dec 23, 2015
Messages
1,384
Reaction score
2,639
Gender
Male
Country
Croatia
Just to note.We don't know how much MP summoning aspirit actually is ,it could be as little as Natsu using Fire Dragons claw or it could even be a fair part of MP.Spirits also take MP to maintain.
And the CSK thing we should also consider that Lucy was nearly out of magic power after the fights in Cube.

I'm not here to "claim" that Lucy is more powerful than she is ( since she hasn't shown anything that could even closely match Natsu/Gray/Erza when they go all out), but there's still time for her to shine ( leading female protagonist) .
 

Tryndamere

Registered User
下級員 / Kakyuuin / Jr. Member
Joined
Jan 4, 2016
Messages
90
Reaction score
75
Country
The Wall
S+ Acnologia , E.N.D. , Lucy ( one magic )
S Igneel , Zeref , Mavis
S- Parents dragon , Gildartz

A+ August , Lady Eileen , Chelia ( Third origin) , Larcade
A Natsu , Laxus , Jellal , Wahl , God serena , Invel
A- Gajeel , Bradman , Ajeel , Dimaria , Jacob , Erza , Gray , Mira , Brandish

B+ Makarov , Goi , Neinhart
B Sting , Rogue , Minerva , Kagura , Cana (FG) , Freed , Lyon , Wendy.
B- Lucy , Juvia , Yukino , Evergreen , Bickslow , Elfman , Marin , Meredy.

C+ Levy , Mest , Lissana.



Italic = Not sure.

and Don't quote me :pjsalt
 
Last edited:

Cosmicstar

Registered User
英雄メンバー / Eiyuu Menbaa / Hero Member
Joined
Jun 30, 2013
Messages
1,288
Reaction score
1,793
Age
30
Gender
Hidden
Country
United States
That's highly inaccurate. Lucy's never had high amounts of MP thus she's very, very, very far from reaching Natsu, Erza or Gray in terms of MP. This gap hasn't been closed after the timeskip because, although Lucy has improved enormously, so have the others.

So, Lucy would need 10 years of MP training in order to be close to any member of Team Natsu's. I suspect she has even less MP than Wendy.

But, again, I cannot back it up, neither can you, so let's leave it to difference in opinions. Although I'm sure feats back my opinion up more than yours, but again, let's forget about it :P I'll only say that when a mage has high amounts of MP other people 'notice' it. People have stated before that Natsu or Erza's MP was magnificent but I've never heard such a thing aimed at Lucy.

On another note, I clearly stated the results of the sorter are sometimes not accurate if compared to YOUR OWN opinion, in which cases you NECESSARILY have to change it!!!! I was not interested in the sheer results of the sorter AT ALL but rather, it was a means for you to rearrange them quicker. What I wanted was a list with which you actually agreed!!

Next time I'll post the rules so as to avoid things like this to slip! :P

Also, and I very humbly say this to you: you cannot be unbiased and then say things like Gemini Lucy can copy Natsu, Gray or Erza... that's just... well...

Lucy does have high magical power. Summoning 3 Spirits while almost being fully drained from Franmarth clearly puts her up there among Team Natsu.

Someone like Wendy needed to consume a huge amount of magical power to enter Dragon force while Lucy almost fully drained was able to open the CSK gate and prior to that open 3 Celestial Gates at once.



vs


It was already stated that summoning takes alot of Magic. This was after:



Franmarth sucked most of Lucy's magic power away.

and she was still able too:


To summon the CSK.

Lucy's feats clearly puts her on top when it comes to magical power.

If we compare each characters top spells and how much Magical power they take it would go as follows.

1. Lucy Summoning the CSK. Why?Because the CSK was able to destroy Plutogrim and create a whole crater in the earth. Even Irene's and Acnologia's basic nukes don't really compare to the CSK swinging his sword around.

Irene enchanted Nuke against Acnologia: Used as reference for people with high Magical power:





To summon someone that powerful puts Lucy's magical power pretty high among Team Natsu.

2. Natsu using Igneel's power would be next. The power itself was pretty impressive.



These are the only 2 people within Team Natsu with Feats near the level of Human Acnologia and Irene. I would without a doubt say Lucy has high magical power that is comparable to Natsu.

If I had to rank feats:

Full power:

Natsu(FDKM)>=Lucy(CSK)>>Erza (Nakagami)>=Gray(DeS)>Wendy(DF)

Finishing Moves:

Hot Pants Sword>Urano Metria>LFD Hammer>Skydrill>Ice Devil Slayer Roar

So to say that Lucy's magical power don't compare to the rest is crap. The only person in Team Natsu that might have more magical power than Lucy is maybe Natsu. Even then not really as during the Tartarous arc Lucy's feats indicated she had more magical power than Natsu. The rest of them no way in hell.
 

Alvarez Princess

Banned
中級員 / Chuukyuuin / Member
Joined
Jul 1, 2016
Messages
148
Reaction score
450
Country
New Zealand
Ice Devil slayer roar isn't Gray's finishing move, it's in the same realm as Gajeel's ISD Roar, or Natsu's LFD Roar in terms of basic potency.

Gray's Des finishing move is Ice Devil's Zeroth Long Sword or Ice Devil's zeroth Arrow.
 

Woodenstool

Banned
英雄メンバー / Eiyuu Menbaa / Hero Member
Joined
Apr 1, 2016
Messages
897
Reaction score
408
Country
United States
Top Spriggan 12 (updated):
Top tier:
1. August
2. Irene
High Tier:
3. Larcade
4. God Serena
5. Bradman
Mid Tier:
6. Dimaria
7. Brandish
8. Invel (will move up or down when more is revealed)
Low Tier:
9. Jacob
10. Wahl
11. Ajeel
12. Neinhart
How can you rank Invel and Larcade so high if you never their abilities? That makes ZERO sense to do so, as for Dimaria, she needs to be the highest of them all. Her time ability allows to stomp any of the Spriggan with ease.

Hype of Irene and August does not bypass logic for Dimaira.
 

sharkai

Registered User
英雄メンバー / Eiyuu Menbaa / Hero Member
Joined
Jul 3, 2016
Messages
2,060
Reaction score
1,111
Age
36
Country
United States
Laxus blitzed him 4 times. He kicked him, then punched him, then smashed him into the floor and then smashed him into the floor again later on. Laxus missed him once with a punch and once with a roar. Laxus fell to knees but he was far from done in, he still had plenty of MP left, and he then proceeded to endure one of Hades blasts with none of it.



Laxus did not loose, he temporarily fell to his knees. He did not utilize most of his MP because he wanted to give the honours of beating Hades up to Natsu. Falling to your knees for a second =/= defeated.



She's also overrated.



Its never been overly up. The strongest she has frozen was Kagura, and even she was implied to have seen through to an extent. I refuse to believe it works on Spriggan level characters until it does. As of now nothing there to suggest it would, especially given that she considers her God Soul her Spriggan level trump card. We'll hopefully see in due time. If it works perfectly on a Spriggan level character then I concede (though then there is still characters like Irene and August who are leagues above the other Spriggan and Acnologia who is leagues above them), but I'm having doubts that's what's going to happen (cause I doubt DiMaria is going to win the war here).



Agreed. If Hyberion and Wolfheim go on to solo a Spriggan then Serena is something else (at least as far as attack power goes) but I'm finding it hard to believe.
Depends on how you look at it
When laxus arrived, Hades was shocked because of resemblance with markarov. Laxus headbut him. Hades didn't block him or retaliated. So I don't put that hit in the fight. Because Hades isn't fighting.
In chapter 245 laxus and Hades are standing pretty close together. Then suddenly laxus hits him. Hades hasn't even move. This allows him to hit Hades again. And Hades goes flying. Keep in mind Hades hasn't even started fighting yet. Was he too slow to react maybe, but they are standing face to face. So I don't find it impressive.
Then laxus flies after the Hades he punched away. Hit him again

And then Hades started to move. you can see this in mangapanda chapter 245 page 7.

And then its pretty much over for laxus. Ones Hades started to move laxus only landed one hit after the 25 formula.
And collapsed

To compare fairly. I have to give both chance to attack. Not one attacking and then getting the benefit of the attack, which seems to be the only reason why laxus managed to land all those hits other than the last one.
To give a stupid example, I am exchanging angry words with someone and then suddenly punch him in the nose. While he still recovering I start beating him up. Would you say I am stronger than him? Of course not.
Of course there two more things in this Hades vs laxus fight. First, they are both fighting mode, so should be ready for blows. And second, Hades has no worries of laxus actually doing any sort of damage thanks to his heart.
Also keep in mind, Hades was fighting back against wrecked fairy tail attack team from the start.

So that's why I say laxus only managed to land one hit in the fight after Hades started to fight. Hades has to fight to compare them fairly.

As for falling to knees meaning not defeated.
I dont know.
To me it looked like he couldn't move anymore. So if he had tried to fight he would have lost very fast. That is why everyone mentioned that spell.
If he could have fought on with same efficiency as before. Then I do think it would have been better to show laxus standing and looking perfectly able to fight. Then giving his powers.
Instead he was pretty much bowing to Hades and talking about monsters. And then he gave away his powers.
 

Demon Hunter

Registered User
有名人 / Yuumeijin / Celebrity
Joined
Jun 16, 2016
Messages
4,434
Reaction score
12,850
Gender
Male
Country
Croatia
tbh, both Hades and Laxus didn't go all out. Laxus used like one move against him and that was roar and Hades used two powerful blasts, something that he didn't use against Team Natsu (I think). Laxus had 4 legit hits. he could have kept fighting but he didn't because of some FT bullcrap. his MP gave Natsu a chance to temporarily beat Hades.
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---
oh and I agree with @Cosmicstar

Lucy shouldn't be underestimated. she is not as flashy as Natsu but she has pretty big MP.
 

The President

Registered User
英雄メンバー / Eiyuu Menbaa / Hero Member
Joined
May 18, 2016
Messages
785
Reaction score
2,437
Age
31
Country
Canada
Isn't the CSK just on Mard Geer's level? Unless he grew stronger himself I don't see how Lucy wielding that power would put her on top tier level, at the best she would be top 15 and thats pushing it even..
To be fair, that was CSK operating on Lucy's weak ass MP (especially given that she was exhausted). I would want to see how he fights if someone as hyped as Anna summoned him.

well, CSK is slow as fuck. if one of his attacks connected with Mard Geer then he would have been one shotted. I don't remember that battle but I don't think any of his attacks actually connected but they were massive. I also think that CSK was restricted because of Lucy' MP.
One of his attacks did connect with one of Mards and it was a stalemate of sorts. I agree with the latter point.

.Lucy ( one magic )
Huh.

Same thing as Chelia, except by feats he's even worse (for now).

A+ August , Lady Eileen , Chelia ( Third origin) , Larcade
The bolded? Chelia has been hyped as a natural talent (above average), she hasn't been hyped as the future goddess of mages. In TO, despite having a huge type advantage she was matching blows with DiMaria (who you have put two tiers below) and even needed assistance from Wendy at one point. I'd honestly question her even being Spriggan level, let alone on the same level as the strongest mages to ever live.

Hype of Irene and August does not bypass logic for Dimaira.
If Hiro says that August/Irene are stronger then DiMaria then they are stronger then DiMaria. Your interpretation of what both parties can and can't do is nothing to the word of god here. At this point its been made beyond abundantly clear that August and Irene are the strongest Spriggan. Age Seal, by DiMarias own words, isn't even a Spriggan level power.
 

Demon Hunter

Registered User
有名人 / Yuumeijin / Celebrity
Joined
Jun 16, 2016
Messages
4,434
Reaction score
12,850
Gender
Male
Country
Croatia
To be fair, that was CSK operating on Lucy's weak ass MP (especially given that she was exhausted). I would want to see how he fights if someone as hyped as Anna summoned him.


One of his attacks did connect with one of Mards and it was a stalemate of sorts. I agree with the latter point.
Anna summoned CSK???


was it a regular attack or Meteor Blade which is mountain busting attack???
 

Cosmicstar

Registered User
英雄メンバー / Eiyuu Menbaa / Hero Member
Joined
Jun 30, 2013
Messages
1,288
Reaction score
1,793
Age
30
Gender
Hidden
Country
United States
How can you rank Invel and Larcade so high if you never their abilities? That makes ZERO sense to do so, as for Dimaria, she needs to be the highest of them all. Her time ability allows to stomp any of the Spriggan with ease.

Hype of Irene and August does not bypass logic for Dimaira.
You must be new.

If Irene and Auguts have any form of time magic Dimira Magic want effect them.

@Jean Grey

It was a regular attack that took out Plutogrim which is bigger than a mountain.
 

Woodenstool

Banned
英雄メンバー / Eiyuu Menbaa / Hero Member
Joined
Apr 1, 2016
Messages
897
Reaction score
408
Country
United States
Fire of the Dragon King doesn't mean Igneel's flames, the demolition is named after that unless he was using Igneel's flames against Jacob also?
The fact that you can
You must be new.

If Irene and Auguts have any form of time magic Dimira Magic want effect them.

@Jean Grey

It was a regular attack that took out Plutogrim which is bigger than a mountain.
Until August or Irene shows a spell which can block her Time stop, nothing can stop her.

You need an English teacher, when she said strongest, she meant in magical power
 

Aizen

MH Senpai
英雄メンバー / Eiyuu Menbaa / Hero Member
Joined
Jan 30, 2016
Messages
1,469
Reaction score
4,067
Age
32
Gender
Male
Country
United States
The fact that you can

Until August or Irene shows a spell which can block her Time stop, nothing can stop her.

You need an English teacher, when she said strongest, she meant in magical power
I think the thought process is that because Irene has way more magical power than Dimaria, then she would have some way to counter it. I mean you could also say that Brandish could beat anyone by simply shrinking them. Jacob could use Transport and their gone. My point is all the Spriggans have hax abilities, The strongest ones would be able counter them, otherwise why would they be the strongest?
 

Boomburst

Registered User
英雄メンバー / Eiyuu Menbaa / Hero Member
Joined
Apr 23, 2016
Messages
945
Reaction score
1,872
Country
United States
The fact that you can

Until August or Irene shows a spell which can block her Time stop, nothing can stop her.

You need an English teacher, when she said strongest, she meant in magical power
There are two scenarios in which August/Irene can beat Dimaria.

1. Time hax doesn't work on people with more mp than her

2. August/Irene posses time magic that can counter her

Both possibilities are extremely plausible and just claiming that Dimaria is above them because of her time magic is ridiculous. Hax have limits too.
 

Natsu Goatneel

Registered User
中級員 / Chuukyuuin / Member
Joined
May 13, 2016
Messages
160
Reaction score
102
Age
32
Country
United States
Alvarez rankings of characters shown so far

1. Acnologia
2. Zeref
3. Natsu w/ Igneel boost
4. Eileen
5. August
6. Dimaria
7. Natsu
8. Laxus
9. Gajeel
10. Jellal
11. Wahl
12. Bradman
13. Ajeel
14. Jacob
15. Brandish(need more)
16. Nienhart
 

Alvarez Princess

Banned
中級員 / Chuukyuuin / Member
Joined
Jul 1, 2016
Messages
148
Reaction score
450
Country
New Zealand
Alvarez rankings of characters shown so far

1. Acnologia
2. Zeref
3. Natsu w/ Igneel boost
4. Eileen
5. August
6. Dimaria
7. Natsu
8. Laxus
9. Gajeel
10. Jellal
11. Wahl
12. Bradman
13. Ajeel
14. Jacob
15. Brandish(need more)
16. Nienhart
How is Gajeel ahead of Jellal, Wahl, Ajeel, and Brandish?
 

Woodenstool

Banned
英雄メンバー / Eiyuu Menbaa / Hero Member
Joined
Apr 1, 2016
Messages
897
Reaction score
408
Country
United States
There are two scenarios in which August/Irene can beat Dimaria.

1. Time hax doesn't work on people with more mp than her

2. August/Irene posses time magic that can counter her

Both possibilities are extremely plausible and just claiming that Dimaria is above them because of her time magic is ridiculous. Hax have limits too.
Show me evidence where it says Irene and August have time related magic.

Show me proof that higher mp magics can counter anything.

Mest altered Brandish's memories, a spriggan 12 who nearly on the level of Irene.

Edit- "time hax doesn't work on higher MP mages"

Wrong, her time magic stops everything on earth. Meaning August and Irene were stopped in her 'world'. If that wasn't the case then August and the rest of the people would be in the future by a few minutes.
 
Last edited by a moderator:

Boomburst

Registered User
英雄メンバー / Eiyuu Menbaa / Hero Member
Joined
Apr 23, 2016
Messages
945
Reaction score
1,872
Country
United States
Show me evidence where it says Irene and August have time related magic.

Show me proof that higher mp magics can counter anything.

Mest altered Brandish's memories, a spriggan 12 who nearly on the level of Irene.


Edit- "time hax doesn't work on higher MP mages"

Wrong, her time magic stops everything on earth. Meaning August and Irene were stopped in her 'world'. If that wasn't the case then August and the rest of the people would be in the future by a few minutes.
Yea Mest altered Brandishes memories, but it lasted like five seconds before it wore off. And no, Brandish is not near the level of Irene. Makarov said that August's power was incomparable to that of the normal Spriggans, and Irene is as strong as he is.

For all we know everyone else COULD be in the future by a few minutes. It's not like anyone would notice.

If hax has no limits then why don't we just have Dimaria stop time for Acnologia? Why not have Brandish shrink him to the size of an ant? Why not have Jacob use Transport? Better yet, why doesn't Mest just alter all the memories of the Spriggan 12 and just make them kill themselves? This entire universe would fall apart if you could use hax on anything regardless of their magic power.
 
Last edited by a moderator:

Ebony Maw

Registered User
英雄メンバー / Eiyuu Menbaa / Hero Member
Joined
May 8, 2016
Messages
1,995
Reaction score
8,124
Gender
Male
Country
Sabertooth
Show me evidence where it says Irene and August have time related magic.
I can't speak for Irene but there's a high chance that August can control time too due to his "form". Notice that August's "form" has black skin and silver/white lines going in a pattern across his skin, he can also shoot lasers that travel very fast. This "form" of August's is ridiculously similar to DiMaria's God Soul: Chronos, since God Soul: Chronos is her ace in the hole, I really wouldn't be surprised if August can control time similar to how DiMaria can.
 
Top