We have seen what DF can do.It atleast increases his power level by 3 times from Base state may be even more.Regarding Gray i don't even know what his secret technique is.May be when he uses it he will surpass Laxus.
Might not be that way come EoS though.
I actually think that in pure power department
I don't think they're equal at all. Just pointing out the portrayal. Hiro didnt have Natsu give a speech about how terrifying FT can be while having Gray smack around Invel or show both Gray and Natsu punching Spriggan into oblivion just for fans to go "eh, he's still not that strong."
Yes laxus is stronger than gray natsu gajeel..for me he's not that far behind gildartsLaxus is still stronger than Gray though
I have no problem with people thinking this tbh. It's not as if this is an exhaustive attack for Natsu, he's willing to use it on fodders. It's either FDK demolishing strike or FD Iron Fist.
That isn't this arc's DF, that was Tartarus DF, if you're going to say you don't know what Gray's secret technique is then say the same for Natsu, you don't know what his current DF will be like so no, you're being biased here
Except if Natsu had gone FDK in that panel, Lucy and Brandish's clothes would be melting off like Lessio's, it was an unnamed punch Randy, no FDK involved
Sorry no i am not then i would not have put Gildarts at the top.We know DF increases his powerlevel by 3 times or even more.So seeing Current Natsu's Base powerlevel we can assume how strong it will be.Now how can i put Gray's secret technique without even knowing anything about it.I don't even know whether it is a Spell,Demon Form or anything else.
I already said why I think gray might be still weaker than erza. Sh!t called pof. People might disagree with it. But pof is real in fairy tail
He doesn't need to go into FDK mode to pull off demolishing strike... nor does an FDK spell melt clothes all the timeExcept if Natsu had gone FDK in that panel, Lucy and Brandish's clothes would be melting off like Lessio's, it was an unnamed punch Randy, no FDK involved
I think invel is stronger but not by a huge amount.
He was in FDKM when he entered the stadium, Happy himself remarked that he wasn't holding back, the series always makes a point to show off when Natsu isn't holding back, like when he was kicked out of the Guild by Makarov to chase after Lessio, they all knew he was holding back..
How is it invalid, when I said it should work on someone close to his level? In fact, it did work on Gray, so...
Even this arc, the obvious match-up for Gray was the only Ice Mage among the Spriggan 12, because that's pretty much the only kind of opponents Gray is fit to take on at this point (either demons or ice mages). Natsu hasn't only been fighting dragons or Fire Magic users, just like Erza hasn't only been fighting sword users... That's where diversity kicks in.
He wasn't trying, yet he was fighting back? I guess I'll never understand that kind of reasoning, but it's obvious that we won't agree on this, so let's just leave it at that.
The fact that Silver uses Ice magic is already an advantage, because Gray resists ice to some degree. I am well aware that he was granted that power-up after the fight; that's not what I meant at all.
Natsu missed, end of story. I wanna see Natsu one shot bluenotestinger with pure strength, no magic. That's right, he can't. He barley moved Jacob an inch.This is a wild (and flawed at that) guess of yours. Brandish couldn't use her magic against him, it has nothing to do with physical strength.
Uhh.. why, exactly? Most women in this anime can fight...
Yes he did. He wanted to test his strength but it turned out that he used an attack sligthly too poweful that instantaneously KOed him.
Not quite.
Not true.
This makes no sense whatsoever, no matter how you look at it. It's not like a crash net enveloped the mountain and it crashed, it was a punch of Glidartz imbued in crash what destroyed a mountain. As for Natsu, his aura heat combined with a massive punch.
Probably not, especially now that Mashima wants to hype him too much..
I agree that Glidartz can throw multiple mountain busting punches but you need to understand it's but an assumption because he hasn't done so yet.
Too lazy now hehe but honestly, even if he hasn't shown poof speed, does it make him slower than Wendy? clearly not. In any case, he hasn't needed his true speed, he'll use it when he needs it, probably. Maybe Mashima decides he's faster than light
That movement on Neinhart's head is odd for a dodge. Also he says "Guaaahn" as if he had received damage. But maybe he dodged. Whatever.
My S12 Ranking:
1.August
2.Irene
3.Larcade
4.Dimaria
5.God Serena
6.Enhanced Neinhart
7.Brandish
8.Wahl
9.Bradman
10.Invel
11.Ajeel
12.Lessio
13.Neinhart
Really doubt Hiro is going to unveil a mode without Natsu telling us he's entering one... just think back to when you read chapter 418 for the first time. What did you think? Natsu's flames have improved, or Natsu's developed a new mode?
Ice Lock? Yes. Ice Slave? No. You said that Invel can just freeze Gray like he did with Mavis.
If you're really going to play it like this, I can say Gray hasn't always fought demons or ice mages, therefore, he is more diverse... And this statement is true because Gray didn't fight ice mages or demons in the other arcs before Tartaros.
Yeah, we won't agree here...
Gray doesn't have resistance to ice attacks though... He has resistance to cold air which is different because that doesn't help him in a fight.
