Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[King of kings]

oh come on , you need to read the wiki.
http://fairytail.wikia.com/wiki/Fire_Dragon_King_Mode

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http://fairytail.wikia.com/wiki/Fire_Dragon_Slayer
http://fairytail.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon_Slayer_Magic

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that power would kill almost all FT characters because they mortals and Zeref survived that attack because he is immortal

 

[LucifeCollins]

Time to debunk and refute.

Natsu did not evaporate the entire lake. When he entered blaze dragon king mode combined with Igneels power, the radius of that mode wasn't large as a lake.

http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/477/9
THE SIZE OF THE LAKE
http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/464/20
BLAZE DRAGON KING MODE

Add some logic, fire hot enough doesn't have to make contact water to evaporate it. But in the last panel when Jacob was defeated, you see no flames standing meaning that Natsus fire was gone. igneels flames wasnt melting rocks but Hiro isn't going to draw that bullshit so I won't count that.

"Natsu had to hold back"
No, Natsu wanted to throwdown with Brandish after what happened to Mest. And he wanted to Ajeel to catch some hands aswell.

"Natsu one shotted a s12"
Congratulations! He one shot a spriggan who was scared to fight Erza because he's too much of a pussy to fight hand to hand. Natsu struggled in that fight a bit but I still call shit writing on that part.

"Zeref noticing Igneels power"
Zeref wasn't exactly there when Natsu punched the God of War was he? And plot, Hiro isn't going to reveal Natsu arm power in the Avatar arc. So let's gets this straight, Natsu is fully capable of throwing fire that large without Igneels powers, that's the point of the TS.

"Natsu one shot bluenote"
So can 99% of the FT members.

You didn't debunk anything, and your refuting was elementary. Axiomus used manga panels and actual showings, not the speculation you're pulling out of nowhere and stating as facts. Gildarts has showed nothing better or even as good as Natsu's showings so far. Keep trying to pass off your heavy bias as fact though—it certainly is entertaining to see.

 

[Woodenstool]

Jacob transported 113 members. Natsu and Lucy makes 2 more.
This is not including the people sent to the North and South.

You didn't debunk anything, and your refuting was elementary. Axiomus used manga panels and actual showings, not the speculation you're pulling out of nowhere and stating as facts. Gildarts has showed nothing better or even as good as Natsu's showings so far. Keep trying to pass off your heavy bias as fact though—it certainly is entertaining to see.

gildarts casually destroyed a mountain and Natsu has no speed feats that are the same level of Gildarts. If Gildarts was able to casually destroy a mountain and Natsu spells aren't as large as them, Gildarts going to break his spells easily. WHAT DONT YOU GET?

Gildarts thrown 13 punches in an instant and he wasn't trying. And he wasn't trying to bust that mountain when that target was the dinosaur. It means Gildarts can throw several mountain busting punches instantly.

Gildarts has poof! Speed, and proof he still has his insane speed was when he fought God Serena. He wasn't even trying and he got to his face INSTANTLY. Gildarts could've throw a punch at his face and ended be fight there.

Don't call me bias, I support all my shit evidence. Natsu beating Bluenotestinger in one fire attack doesn't mean jack shit. Is Natsus speed greater than Gildarts? No. And even if he was evenly matched in speed, do you think he can block out multiple mountain busting punches? Natsu would get demolished.

"FDKM places him on Gildarts rank"
Natsu's laser lightning beams of death don't mean jack shit if Gildarts blitzes Natsu and starts throwing mountain busting punches faster than Natsu can react. They also don't mean jack shit if Gildarts destroys them before they touch him

Gildarts would shit on August aswell. Apply those feats so August's poor reaction time and Gildarts completely demolished him.

 

[Boomburst]

gildarts casually destroyed a mountain and Natsu has no speed feats that are the same level of Gildarts. If Gildarts was able to casually destroy a mountain and Natsu spells aren't as large as them, Gildarts going to break his spells easily. WHAT DONT YOU GET KID?

Gildarts thrown 13 punches in an instant and he wasn't trying. And he wasn't trying to bust that mountain when that target was the dinosaur. It means Gildarts can throw several mountain busting punches instantly.

Gildarts has poof! Speed, and proof he still has his insane speed was when he fought God Serena. He wasn't even trying and he got to his face INSTANTLY. Gildarts could've throw a punch at his face and ended be fight there.

Don't call me bias kid, I support all my shit evidence. Natsu beating Bluenotestinger in one fire attack doesn't mean jack shit. Is Natsus speed greater than Gildarts? No. And even if he was evenly matched in speed, do you think he can block out multiple mountain busting punches? Natsu would get demolished.

"FDKM places him on Gildarts rank"
Natsu's laser lightning beams of death don't mean jack shit if Gildarts blitzes Natsu and starts throwing mountain busting punches faster than Natsu can react. They also don't mean jack shit if Gildarts destroys them before they touch him

Gildarts would shit on August aswell. Apply those feats so August's poor reaction time and Gildarts completely demolished him.

Man I feel like this is just a never ending cycle of you repeating your bullshit claims over and over again and us having to disprove them over and over again. I wish you would get some new arguments, I swear you've basically made this exact same post at least a dozen times already.

Prove that Gildarts was casual when he punched the mountain.

Prove that Gildarts destroyed the whole mountain.

Prove that Gildarts wasn't trying against God Serena's Historia (who was vastly inferior to the original anyways).

Prove that August has slow reaction speed.

Prove that Gildarts is faster than August.

Prove that August would go down from a couple of "mountain busting" punches.

Prove that Gildarts can throw multiple mountain busting punches simultaneously.

Prove that Natsu can't react to Gildarts.

Prove that Gildarts can destroy Natsu's attacks before they hit him.

If you really believe that you provide evidence for everything then don't bother responding without supplying some. And make sure you respond to each of these statements, I know you're quite fond of ignoring things.

 

[Woodenstool]

Man I feel like this is just a never ending cycle of you repeating your bullshit claims over and over again and us having to disprove them over and over again. I wish you would get some new arguments, I swear you've basically made this exact same post at least a dozen times already.

Prove that Gildarts was casual when he punched the mountain.

Prove that Gildarts destroyed the whole mountain.

Prove that Gildarts wasn't trying against God Serena's Historia (who was vastly inferior to the original anyways).

Prove that August has slow reaction speed.

Prove that Gildarts is faster than August.

Prove that August would go down from a couple of "mountain busting" punches.

Prove that Gildarts can throw multiple mountain busting punches simultaneously.

Prove that Natsu can't react to Gildarts.

Prove that Gildarts can destroy Natsu's attacks before they hit him.

If you really believe that you provide evidence for everything then don't bother responding without supplying some. And make sure you respond to each of these statements, I know you're quite fond of ignoring things.

Natsu shows no speed feats this arc. You have manga panels of his speed being superior to Gildarts?

If not kinda st*u. Ok?

 

[Coné]

Natsu shows no speed feats this arc. You have manga panels of his speed being superior to Gildarts?

If not kinda st*u. Ok?

Blitzing enhanced-Neinheart, who's stronger than Brandish, has no merit whatsoever.

 

[Boomburst]

Natsu shows no speed feats this arc. You have manga panels of his speed being superior to Gildarts?

If not kinda st*u. Ok?

I don't have to provide anything. YOU made the claims, so the burden of proof is on YOU.

Also I like how you yet again ignored 90% of my post. Do you not have any evidence or are you just too lazy?

 

[Axiomus]

gildarts casually destroyed a mountain and Natsu has no speed feats that are the same level of Gildarts. If Gildarts was able to casually destroy a mountain and Natsu spells aren't as large as them, Gildarts going to break his spells easily. WHAT DONT YOU GET?

Gildarts thrown 13 punches in an instant and he wasn't trying. And he wasn't trying to bust that mountain when that target was the dinosaur. It means Gildarts can throw several mountain busting punches instantly.

Gildarts has poof! Speed, and proof he still has his insane speed was when he fought God Serena. He wasn't even trying and he got to his face INSTANTLY. Gildarts could've throw a punch at his face and ended be fight there.

Don't call me bias, I support all my shit evidence. Natsu beating Bluenotestinger in one fire attack doesn't mean jack shit. Is Natsus speed greater than Gildarts? No. And even if he was evenly matched in speed, do you think he can block out multiple mountain busting punches? Natsu would get demolished.

"FDKM places him on Gildarts rank"
Natsu's laser lightning beams of death don't mean jack shit if Gildarts blitzes Natsu and starts throwing mountain busting punches faster than Natsu can react. They also don't mean jack shit if Gildarts destroys them before they touch him

Gildarts would shit on August aswell. Apply those feats so August's poor reaction time and Gildarts completely demolished him.

I'm not sure what this has to do with what I originally said. All I'm saying is that I believe the movie promo to be an preview of what Natsu's dragon force is going to look like.

 

[Woodenstool]

Blitzing enhanced-Neinheart, who's stronger than Brandish, has no merit whatsoever.

He missed his first punch but everyone says it's debatable. So I guess Natsu just put him arm out so it can get all sliced up.

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I don't have to provide anything. YOU made the claims, so the burden of proof is on YOU.

Also I like how you yet again ignored 90% of my post. Do you not have any evidence or are you just too lazy?

Find my post in the Natsu vs Gildarts thread. Page 11+.

 

[Boomburst]

He missed his first punch but everyone says it's debatable. So I guess Natsu just put him arm out so it can get all sliced up.

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Find my post in the Natsu vs Gildarts thread. Page 11+.

What does Natsu's arm being out have to do with anything? It would have been out regardless of whether the punch landed or not.

 

[Woodenstool]

What does Natsu's arm being out have to do with anything? It would have been out regardless of whether the punch landed or not.

Natsu missed his punch, why else would his arm be out?

 

[Boomburst]

What's going your head right now?
Natsu missed his punch, why else would his arm be out?

Why would it matter whether Natsu landed the punch or not? The motion of punching is literally putting your arm out, regardless of whether it actually landed or not.

 

[Crimson Ice]

http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/48/8

I guess Natsu didn't just punch a person through a wall because his arm is sticking out

 

[Woodenstool]

Why would it matter whether Natsu landed the punch or not? The motion of punching is literally putting your arm out, regardless of whether it actually landed or not.

Neinhart dodged his punch because Natsu wasn't fast enough. He showed no feats that tell me that he's capable of reacting to Gildarts speed. You can't even use the time skip as an counter argument.

Quit this Neinhart vs Natsu debate. He missed, it's clear as day. I'm not going talk about this topic again because you clearly miss the point.

 

[Brandish μ]

Natsu didn't miss with that punch. Neinhart was falling back, making a sound that you would associate with being hurt.

It doesn't really matter anyway... Natsu still took him out. Either with 1-shot, or most likely 2-shots.

 

[Boomburst]

Neinhart dodged his punch because Natsu wasn't fast enough. He showed no feats that tell me that he's capable of reacting to Gildarts speed. You can't even use the time skip as an counter argument.

Quit this Neinhart vs Natsu debate. He missed, it's clear as day. I'm not going talk about this topic again because you clearly miss the point.

Lmao what's sad is that you only want to stop the Natsu vs Neinhart debate because the one argument you've provided for Natsu missing has been completely and utterly trounced.

 

[~Charging Lightning~]

I don't see why this is a debate...

1. Natsu had to run through a tornado to get to Neinheart. That isn't exactly the best way to measure his speed.
2. It's as clear as day that Natsu hit Neinheart..... If he didn't then why was he pushed back and why did he scream "Guaah"?
3. Even if Natsu didn't hit Neinheart that doesn't mean he's slow. We have no clue how good enhanced Neinheart's reaction speed truly is. Assuming he has shitty reaction speed is an assumption.

Oh but hurr durr, Natsu is slow AF and Gildarts blizting a bunch of fodder in another series not written by Hiro means he's as fast as the flash, right guys?

 

[Woodenstool]

I don't see why this is a debate...

1. Natsu had to run through a tornado to get to Neinheart. That isn't exactly the best way to measure his speed.
2. It's as clear as day that Natsu hit Neinheart..... If he didn't then why was he pushed back and why did he scream "Guaah"?
3. Even if Natsu didn't hit Neinheart that doesn't mean he's slow. We have no clue how good enhanced Neinheart's reaction speed truly is. Assuming he has shitty reaction speed is an assumption.

Oh but hurr durr, Natsu is slow AF and Gildarts blizting a bunch of fodder in another series not written by Hiro means he's as fast as the flash, right guys?

I've trail is cannon to the story so I don't get your point. Gildarts has shown to insane speed in the main story aswell.

 

[Spirit]

I've trail is cannon to the story so I don't get your point. Gildarts has shown to insane speed in the main story aswell.

Speed blitzing isn't really FT and Mashima's style, so it's hard to really judge speeds without comparing them to other manga with way faster paced speed levels

 

[Woodenstool]

Speed blitzing isn't really FT and Mashima's style, so it's hard to really judge speeds without comparing them to other manga with way faster paced speed levels

Watch the end of Gildarts vs BlueNS. He was several meters away and was in his face and punched him instantly. That shows you Gildarts wasn't going all out.