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And? Natsu has shown to OHKO two of them. Doesn't really say anything otherwise or contradictive to him being on their level or close.

To be fair, Jacob and Neinhart are both low-tier Spriggans and have shit stats. IMO Jacob is only Spriggant-tier due to his hax magic and same goes for Neinhart.

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Oh and let's not forget August one-shotted Brandish with a sleep spell effortlessly, and she is above Jacob or Neinhart in my rankings.

 

[BluePegasus]

I'd give the FT powerhouses like Natsu/Laxus the benefit of the doubt of breaking the Raiment.

Uhm, I don't really see this as a possibility. Invel stated himself that "everything" that touches his Ice-Rending Divine Raiment will freeze instantly.

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Judging by his words, even the spells of mages should be affected by it. Natsu and Laxus will never break through his raiment if all their spell will freeze once they touch it.

As for now, I can only see Ice Magic and Arc of Time dispell Invel's Ice-Rending Divine Raiment.

 

[Brandish μ]

Uhm, I don't really see this as a possibility. Invel stated himself that "everything" that touches his Ice-Rending Divine Raiment will freeze instantly.

Spoiler

Judging by his words, even the spells of mages should be affected by it. Natsu and Laxus will never break through his raiment if all their spell will freeze once they touch it.

As for now, I can only see Ice Magic and Arc of Time dispell Invel's Ice-Rending Divine Raiment.

Well it's not an infinitely powerful armour. If someone uses a strong enough attack it should be broken. You could be right that it freezes anything it touches.

If Natsu were to hit it with Demolishing Strike, I'd bet on him breaking the armour. I'd give Erza a reasonable chance with Nakagami Starlight as well.

 

[Labi]

Here comes my Spriggan Ranking:

1. August
2. Irene (it was stated that August is the strongest individual so yeah)
3. Larcade (based on the ace against Acno hype I'd put him above Irene normally but that would be too much without any real infos about his power..
4. God Serena (his HISTORIA caused trouble to the whole guild so I can imagine what his living form could do)
4. Neinhart (enhanced) as we've seen Brandish, Natsu and co. Couldn't use their magic so i think he would be able to take some of the Spriggan down with that whirlwind...
5. DiMaria.. (age seal. Without that she wouldn't gain the status of Spriggan level imo... Kagura would imo destroy her if for an REAL fight with swords...)
6. Wahl
7. Bradman
8. Jacob (srsly idk why you're downplaying him just cuz he was beat by Natsu... It's not like Natsu is weak or something... Also stating he has no durability is quite dumb imo... Demolition fist is as near to an finisher as an non-finisher attack could be... Do you expect him to take an barrage of it or what? Lol
The same with Neinhart... Jellal hit him with a full-power rage Grand Chariot...
I also think that Dimaria would also be rekt by a Demolition Fist or and full power GC lol...)

Brandish: idk where to place her tbh... Her magic is quite hax and op how Mari described it... But about her durability idk so i can't say anything...

For the rest of them I don't really wanna think anymore about their powers...


@atomic_2000
Would YOU EVEN TRY if you had magic that normally insta kills? No i don't think so. Also even if Zeref wasn't in that rage mode for fighting IT DOES NOT! mean that Natsu was somehow weak. He had an onslaught on Zeref. He would've ended him if not for happy. Zeref himself was impressed by his (Igneels) power... That's evidence enough that he was strong... VERY STRONG... I believe even IF zeref would've fought serious Natsu would've had chance to win.
The fight would've gotten harder but not so hard that Natsu wouldn't have had a chance to win lol...
Actually I think Zeref couldn't really do THAT much more..
Remember he kills anyone without even trying... It may as well be that he doesn't even know proper hand to hand combat.
As an example...
If you had billions of dollars would you go and work your ass off? I don't think so...

Nobody knows ehat Zeref can do... He actually is a big mystery even now :/

 

[Brandish μ]

My opinion is that Natsu with Dragon Force is stronger than August or Irene. Those 2 would have more hax and versatility. DF Natsu would be something like human Acnologia, or possibly stronger. Again in my opinion... and I'm assuming he's quite dragonised like the movie promo (but both sides dragonised now).

 

[LucifeCollins]

Uhm, I don't really see this as a possibility. Invel stated himself that "everything" that touches his Ice-Rending Divine Raiment will freeze instantly.

Spoiler

Judging by his words, even the spells of mages should be affected by it. Natsu and Laxus will never break through his raiment if all their spell will freeze once they touch it.

As for now, I can only see Ice Magic and Arc of Time dispell Invel's Ice-Rending Divine Raiment.

Ajeel called himself a God. He was no God and got rekt. So taking Spriggans' words at face value means nothing and holds no merit. August's Magic was called ultimate, and DiMaria called hers ultimate too. Really can't take them seriously.

To be fair, Jacob and Neinhart are both low-tier Spriggans and have shit stats. IMO Jacob is only Spriggant-tier due to his hax magic and same goes for Neinhart.

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Oh and let's not forget August one-shotted Brandish with a sleep spell effortlessly, and she is above Jacob or Neinhart in my rankings.

Except that Sleep spells have been shown to be very effective like when Mystogan put Erza to sleep and made even Makarov sleepy, although he couldn't take either of them on easily.

Once again, the full extent of his power really hasn't been shown as all we've seen is one hit. That's all.

 

[Static]

Here comes my Spriggan Ranking:

1. August
2. Irene (it was stated that August is the strongest individual so yeah)
3. Larcade (based on the ace against Acno hype I'd put him above Irene normally but that would be too much without any real infos about his power..
4. God Serena (his HISTORIA caused trouble to the whole guild so I can imagine what his living form could do)
4. Neinhart (enhanced) as we've seen Brandish, Natsu and co. Couldn't use their magic so i think he would be able to take some of the Spriggan down with that whirlwind...
5. DiMaria.. (age seal. Without that she wouldn't gain the status of Spriggan level imo... Kagura would imo destroy her if for an REAL fight with swords...)
6. Wahl
7. Bradman
8. Jacob (srsly idk why you're downplaying him just cuz he was beat by Natsu... It's not like Natsu is weak or something... Also stating he has no durability is quite dumb imo... Demolition fist is as near to an finisher as an non-finisher attack could be... Do you expect him to take an barrage of it or what? Lol
The same with Neinhart... Jellal hit him with a full-power rage Grand Chariot...
I also think that Dimaria would also be rekt by a Demolition Fist or and full power GC lol...)

Brandish: idk where to place her tbh... Her magic is quite hax and op how Mari described it... But about her durability idk so i can't say anything...

For the rest of them I don't really wanna think anymore about their powers...


@atomic_2000
Would YOU EVEN TRY if you had magic that normally insta kills? No i don't think so. Also even if Zeref wasn't in that rage mode for fighting IT DOES NOT! mean that Natsu was somehow weak. He had an onslaught on Zeref. He would've ended him if not for happy. Zeref himself was impressed by his (Igneels) power... That's evidence enough that he was strong... VERY STRONG... I believe even IF zeref would've fought serious Natsu would've had chance to win.
The fight would've gotten harder but not so hard that Natsu wouldn't have had a chance to win lol...
Actually I think Zeref couldn't really do THAT much more..
Remember he kills anyone without even trying... It may as well be that he doesn't even know proper hand to hand combat.
As an example...
If you had billions of dollars would you go and work your ass off? I don't think so...

Nobody knows ehat Zeref can do... He actually is a big mystery even now :/

I never said he is weak.

@LucifeCollins fair enough

 

[Hermit]

My opinion is that Natsu with Dragon Force is stronger than August or Irene. Those 2 would have more hax and versatility. DF Natsu would be something like human Acnologia, or possibly stronger.

Why would his DF be any special? Wendy mastered hers and she's not even S12 level, why Natsu?
The movie is just a movie, that's like saying Natsu still has Regulus Loke's Flames from the Eclipse filler

 

[Brandish μ]

Why would his DF be any special? Wendy mastered hers and she's not even S12 level, why Natsu?
The movie is just a movie, that's like saying Natsu still has Regulus Loke's Flames from the Eclipse filler

Natsu in base above DF Wendy.

I wouldn't even call her a master of DF. She can trigger it easily, but she was always behind Natsu. He was the first of the 1gen slayers to pull of DF by himself.

If you want to exclude the hype I have for the movie that's fine I have no problem there.

But even then we can see what DF Gajeel did. If that amount of inflation to base Natsu, then that's going to be someone strong.

Natsu's shown progression with his DF (degree of scales)... so I think the movie promo is probably showing us what his DF will look like.

 

[King of kings]

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Dragon Force
Kanji
竜の力ドラゴンフォース[1]
Rōmaji
Doragon Fōsu
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Natsu Dragneel
Rogue Cheney
Sting Eucliffe
Wendy Marvell
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Dragon Force (竜の力ドラゴンフォース Doragon Fōsu) is an advanced Dragon Slayer ability.

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DescriptionEdit
When a Dragon Slayer enters Dragon Force, they effectively turn into a humanoidDragon, gaining reptilian scales and traits, such as further elongated, and sharper, canines and scale-like patterns on their skin.[2] According to Zero, Dragon Force is the final, most powerful state a Dragon Slayer can attain; granting them power comparable to that which a real Dragon possesses: the power to utterly destroy everything.[3]

AbilitiesEdit

Dragon's apparition

Dragon Force greatly increases the damage done by standard Dragon Slayer spells, and grants the user access to more advanced, powerful attacks.[4] It also drastically enhances the user's physical prowess, speed,[5] and considerably boosts their Magic Power, which becomes visible, taking the appearance of a Dragon.[6] When exuded at its fullest, said Magic Power takes on a violent corporeality, likely as a result of the immense amount of Magic Power employed.[7] When Natsu Dragneel entered this state through the use of Jellal Fernandes' Flame of Rebuke, his flames gained the ability to burn off offending Magic, even that of Zero's ultimate attack Genesis Zero.[8]

AchievingEdit

• For First Generation Dragon Slayers, those who have been taught their Magic by a real Dragon, certain conditions must be met in order to enter Dragon Force: the only one known so far would be to eat substances with powerful magical properties,[9] preferably those somehow related to the element they can control and consume; while other, unrelated substances can be eaten as well, these have been described as being similar to "poison" for the user, causing heavy after effects, such as pain on activation[10] and extreme exhaustion after use.[11] Natsu Dragneel,Gajeel Redfox and Wendy Marvell, all three of the First Generation Dragon Slayers, have entered Dragon Force, initially requiring an external catalyst to do so. This occurred on four occasions: Natsu's first through the consumption of Etherion,[9] and then from Jellal Fernandes' Flame of Rebuke,[12] while Wendy through eating air with an extremely high Ethernano concentration,[13] and Gajeel did so through consuming Magical Barrier Particles released by Bloodman.[14] Later, Natsu was the first First Generation Dragon Slayer to enter the state without an outside stimulus;[15] Wendy did so as well after one year of training. Interestingly, she lacked any sort of draconian features normally associated with Dragon Force,[16] however, with successive uses, these features reappeared.[17][18]

Natsu's Etherion Dragon Force

Natsu's Rebuke Dragon Force

Natsu's natural Dragon Force

Wendy's Ethernano-induced Dragon Force

Wendy's natural Dragon Force

Gajeel's Magical Barrier Particle-induced Dragon Force

• Third Generation Dragon Slayers, those who have not only been taught by a Dragon but also have Dragon Lacrima implanted into their body, are capable of freely entering Dragon Force. However, the appearance of their Dragon Force is slightly different from the previous generations, for instead of actual scales, a scale-like design appears on their face and body.[19]

Sting's Dragon Force

Rogue's Dragon Force
i putted to this to understand the power of dragon force

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sorry guys if i put too much

 

[Arjuna]

Why would his DF be any special? Wendy mastered hers and she's not even S12 level, why Natsu?
The movie is just a movie, that's like saying Natsu still has Regulus Loke's Flames from the Eclipse filler

Wendy is still a child.If she becomes as old as Natsu as trains for 1 year like him then he will be as strong as him.Natsu's DF is more than enough for him to surpass Laxus easily and may even be Gildarts.There is a reason why Hiro is keeping his DF out for now just like he did Laxus in the previous Arc.

How? Gildarts has done nothing to even remotely say he's stronger than current Laxus and Natsu.


It gives him a good run for being on the latter two's level if we haven't even seen him go all out.

I was basing it on hype though i agree he has no feat like this.

 

[XXEliteXXAceXX]

Without Age Seal DiMaria would be no.12. With it I think she's no.4. Larcade has more hype than the other 9, so I'll let him hold no.3 for the interim.

Invel's fairly strong with his Raiment tbh. You'd need great attack power or slayer/ice skills like Gray's to break it. I'd give the FT powerhouses like Natsu/Laxus the benefit of the doubt of breaking the Raiment. Of the Spriggans probably only God Serena and Wall have the firepower required (excluding the top 3).

I do wonder how Ajeel's desiccation sand would go against Invel's ice, both his base ice and divine/demonic ice.

Wait... you need slayer/ice skills like Gray to break Invel's Ice-Rending Divine Raiment? Gray didn't even use magic against it. If you're implying that his ice devil slaying powers helped him in that situation, then that is downplaying Gray a lot. The only reason why he broke through Invel's armor was because of his strength or attack power.

 

[BluePegasus]

People who don't rank Dimaria at least in the top 4 should get some lessons about the meaning of power rankings.

Anyway, my updated Spriggan tier list:

1). August
2). Irene
3). Dimaria
4). Larcade
5). Invel
6). Bloodman
7). Enhanced Neinhart
8). Jacob
9). Wall
10). Brandish
11). God Serena
12). Ajeel

 

[XXEliteXXAceXX]

My opinion is that Natsu with Dragon Force is stronger than August or Irene. Those 2 would have more hax and versatility. DF Natsu would be something like human Acnologia, or possibly stronger. Again in my opinion... and I'm assuming he's quite dragonised like the movie promo (but both sides dragonised now).

DF Natsu shouldn't be anywhere near Human Acnologia even if he was partially dragonized. If he were, nobody would be going through this much trouble to obtain Fairy Heart and Zeref wouldn't need to assemble an entire empire just to defeat him...

Saying DF Natsu is on August or Eileen's level is already a stretch... The most he can do with DF is taking out God Serena but because God Serena has dragon slaying powers, I also highly doubt he can.

 

[Arjuna]

People who don't rank Dimaria in the top 4 at least should get some lessons about the meaning of power rankings.

Anyway, my updated Spriggan tier list:

1). August
2). Irene
3). Dimaria
4). Larcade
5). Invel
6). Bloodman
7). Enhanced Neinhart
8). Jacob
9). Wall
10). Brandish
11). God Serena
12). Ajeel

Why is God Serena so below.Hyberion believed all Spriggans are on the same level as Base God Serena.He didn't even know about Dragon Slayer God Serena.So Dragon Slayer God Serena should be stronger than most of the Spriggans.And Gray pointed out Ajeel is on the same level as Brandish.

 

[Brandish μ]

Wait... you need slayer/ice skills like Gray to break Invel's Ice-Rending Divine Raiment? Gray didn't even use magic against it. If you're implying that his ice devil slaying powers helped him in that situation, then that is downplaying Gray a lot. The only reason why he broke through Invel's armor was because of his strength or attack power.

Well if he broke the Raiment with sheer power only as you say, then I am over-estimating the strength of Invel's Raiment.

Gray was able to remold the ice, and use it's power. So if he's able to do that, then I don't see any fault in thinking his slayer advantage assisted in breaking the ice.

And of course I did acknowledge attack power in my post...

You'd need great attack power or slayer/ice skills like Gray's to break it

Perhaps and/or should be more appropriate so people don't think I'm downplaying Gray...

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DF Natsu shouldn't be anywhere near Human Acnologia even if he was partially dragonized. If he were, nobody would be going through this much trouble to obtain Fairy Heart and Zeref wouldn't need to assemble an entire empire just to defeat him...

Saying DF Natsu is on August or Eileen's level is already a stretch... The most he can do with DF is taking out God Serena but because God Serena has dragon slaying powers, I also highly doubt he can.

Why can't a half-dragonised Natsu be stronger than H-Acnologia? The physiological difference between dragons and humans is enough, in my opinion, that DF Natsu could bridge the gap to human Acnologia.

Zeref needs FH + Larcade because he's not a dragon slayer. It's obvious that he'd have to go another route.

I'm just having a guess of DF Natsu's level and I won't be bothered at all if I'm wrong. But his FDKM is packing more power than God Serena... the only reason Serena can win that match is due to element advantage of his own...

 

[Hermit]

Zeref needs FH + Larcade because he's not a dragon slayer. It's obvious that he'd have to go another route.

But Acnologia is a human first? And we've seen other forms of magic work on him, I think you're ignoring Zeref's power here and giving Acnologia too much credit because he's a Dragon. In his human form alone he's already vastly superior to the Spriggan 12 so his Dragon form really is nothing more than a transformation

Why can't a half-dragonised Natsu be stronger than H-Acnologia?

Okay, half dragonized? WTF, that's too much of a leap, and stronger than human Acnologia who casually one shots S12 tiers with just his hand? How? You'd have a better point if you said fully Dragonized, but just half of him?

 

[Brandish μ]

But Acnologia is a human first? And we've seen other forms of magic work on him, I think you're ignoring Zeref's power here and giving Acnologia too much credit because he's a Dragon. In his human form alone he's already vastly superior to the Spriggan 12 so his Dragon form really is nothing more than a transformation

You really think Acnologia's going to stay human?

I'm not ignoring Zeref's power. He's the 2nd strongest person out there, can't be killed. But he needs things like an infinite power supply to stand a chance against Acnologia (both August and Irene have basically said that).

His dragon form is much stronger... don't really need to explain why there.

Personally I think Acnologia will be nerfed by Larcade, so his power level could drop.

Okay, half dragonized? WTF, that's too much of a leap, and stronger than human Acnologia who casually one shots S12 tiers with just his hand? How? You'd have a better point if you said fully Dragonized, but just half of him?

I'm not going to say full dragonised because Igneel left antibodies within Natsu to prevent full dragonification.

Again, as I said a few times now, I'm running with the assumption that the movie promo is a sneak peak of his transformation... and making a guess as to how strong his level is. You're more than welcome to disagree.

 

[Labi]

But Acnologia is a human first? And we've seen other forms of magic work on him, I think you're ignoring Zeref's power here and giving Acnologia too much credit because he's a Dragon. In his human form alone he's already vastly superior to the Spriggan 12 so his Dragon form really is nothing more than a transformation

Okay, half dragonized? WTF, that's too much of a leap, and stronger than human Acnologia who casually one shots S12 tiers with just his hand? How? You'd have a better point if you said fully Dragonized, but just half of him?

In his human form he was pushed back by Irene.
His Dragon form gives him invunerability (is it spelled right? Idk) to anything but DS magic. "just a form" u say...
I don't think he could have rippes half of Igneels body in his human form. Or even a bit of it.

Natsu, if even just half dragonized... Imo would close the gap to human Acno. First off he has Dragon Scales if he is half dragonized. I would say that his arms and legs are fully scaled and clawed. With that he could also easily rip a hole into Serena or any Spriggan.
Also his magical power is many times stronger isn't it?

I request some help here cuz I'm not sure but didn't Zero mention that Natsu's power was tenfold when he went DF against him?
If so, and that was low DF with just a few scales, then a half Dragonized form would gain him a VERY great power up.

@Brandish
I think you said that Mashima didn't keep Natsus DF hidden for so long for nothing? If that was ur post then I fully agree. Otherwise it wouldn't make sense. And that fact alone makes the chances, imo, very big that his DF is not the DF we're used to... I also believe it would be half dragonized or something in that way..

Also is it somehow stated that 2nd Gens can't dragonize like 1st Gens? Or rather "evolve" their DF like that?
Just curious haha

 

[**Silver**]

hahahahah half-Dragonized Natsu is stronger than Acnologia human form? is that joke or something ? (how many dragons has Natsu killed compared to Acnologia???) so just asking who is more exprienced Natsu or 400 years old acnologia who has killed thousand dragons? Natsu is fodder to acnologia... not even contest