Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Brandish μ]

August's best feats are:

His best feat is Melt, and the barrier that stopped Laxus' nuke. And I guess his Magic Power being sensed is a feat of his MP.

Piercing Mirajane who's tired and not in a takeover isn't really impressive imo.

 

[M3J]

No proof.
Gildarts said he would be strong if he were alive. That doesn't auto automatically mean he's as strong as him. I've already have evidence that Gildarts is stronger than Seren.

August had a knife go through him. Gray pounding Invel with Ice Gauntlets but you didn't see Gray piercing his skin or blowing holes in him. Simply because Invel has a higher durability and August does not.

He may have a lot of magical power but that doesn't excuse the fact that he's weak. Acnologia didn't try against Irene, he launched one attack that could be seen easily.

Gildarts said they'd be close to even in power if Serena was alive, but he acknowledged Serena wouldn't be a walkover. Where is your evidence, other than Gildarts trying to fight and losing while Serena was blitzed while talking?

Hmm, k. Regardless, August is still superior as despite being stabbed, he hasn't shown that he was injured, while I"m sure many people would at least be in some kind of pain.

Where's your proof he's weak? If anything, might as well call Gildarts weak too because he was beaten, and he survived probably because his important organs weren't that damaged. Though, I'm beginning to remember that we never saw the fight, and Acnologia wiped out FT without using as much power as it did against Gildarts, according to the man himself.

But still, there's nothing to compare it to.

 

[Dragoon]

Why are there debates about power levels? This feels like dbz all over again... ft power "levels" are inconsistent af, the mangaka makes them batshit crazy. Some of the characters (good or bad) are basically gods in human skin yet they lose because the plot demands it

 

[Nemispelled]

His best feat is Melt, and the barrier that stopped Laxus' nuke. And I guess his Magic Power being sensed is a feat of his MP.

Piercing Mirajane who's tired and not in a takeover isn't really impressive imo.

The nuke was only used against Ajeel who I think is extremely far apart from August in terms of power/strength.

Gildartz is stronger than Laxus and has shown feats of durability and endurance himself.

Laxus' lightning nukes when he fought Wahl wasn't anywhere near as impressive as Gildartz's attacks.


Gildartz overall has more feats supporting him. He has oneshotted Natsu and Historia God Serena.

It isn't unreasonable to assume that the Strongest Spriggan is on par with the Strongest Mage from Fairy Tail.

I think that, until proven otherwise, Gildartz and August are relatively similar to one another, with Gildartz being slightly superior at the moment because of his extra feat.

 

[Brandish μ]

The nuke was only used against Ajeel who I think is extremely far apart from August in terms of power/strength.

Gildartz is stronger than Laxus and has shown feats of durability and endurance himself.

Laxus' lightning nukes when he fought Wahl wasn't anywhere near as impressive as Gildartz's attacks.

August is far above Ajeel, but Ajeel isn't weak.

Laxus has better feats than Gildarts. Gildarts portrayal within the guild keeps him up there.

Laxus used a lightning bolt, some punches and Red Lightning. He could have used a nuke if he wanted to, but then destroying a town they want to liberate is silly.

Gildartz overall has more feats supporting him. He has oneshotted Natsu and Historia God Serena.

It isn't unreasonable to assume that the Strongest Spriggan is on par with the Strongest Mage from Fairy Tail.

I think that, until proven otherwise, Gildartz and August are relatively similar to one another, with Gildartz being slightly superior at the moment because of his extra feat.

Gildarts didn't oneshot Historia Serena. He took hits to his face, and so did Serena... before Empyrean.

I can agree that using an assumption like that might not hold. But I didn't use that assumption. I used their relative portrayal to Serena, which is reasonable with the little information there is.

I do disagree on Gildarts being superior, but being relatively similar might be true. The hype is surely in August' favour over anyone in FT sans Natsu.

 

[Woodenstool]

Gildarts said they'd be close to even in power if Serena was alive, but he acknowledged Serena wouldn't be a walkover. Where is your evidence, other than Gildarts trying to fight and losing while Serena was blitzed while talking?

Hmm, k. Regardless, August is still superior as despite being stabbed, he hasn't shown that he was injured, while I"m sure many people would at least be in some kind of pain.

Where's your proof he's weak? If anything, might as well call Gildarts weak too because he was beaten, and he survived probably because his important organs weren't that damaged. Though, I'm beginning to remember that we never saw the fight, and Acnologia wiped out FT without using as much power as it did against Gildarts, according to the man himself.

But still, there's nothing to compare it to.

Gildarts has casual mountain busting punches. He has thrown 13 punches instantaneously and no one can react to poof! speed.

If you combine those two, it means Gildarts can throw several mountain busting punches instantaneously. When Brandish brought out the knife he saw it but didn't react fast enough before getting stabbed.

Gildarts can blitz his opponents with Empryean, a mountain busting punch. That attack used against Bluenote had so much power in it that he sent so much force upward, the shockwave from that divided the clouds. Clouds are multiple kilometers in the air and Bluenote was gone by the time rustyrose hit the ground. If one of those punches landed on August he would be demolished.

When Serena used his Dragon roar, Gildarts destroyed the spell instantaneously. No one even noticed his arrival until the aftermath of the attack. That's a speed feat within itself.

 

[Arjuna]

The nuke was only used against Ajeel who I think is extremely far apart from August in terms of power/strength.

Gildartz is stronger than Laxus and has shown feats of durability and endurance himself.

Laxus' lightning nukes when he fought Wahl wasn't anywhere near as impressive as Gildartz's attacks.


Gildartz overall has more feats supporting him. He has oneshotted Natsu and Historia God Serena.

It isn't unreasonable to assume that the Strongest Spriggan is on par with the Strongest Mage from Fairy Tail.

I think that, until proven otherwise, Gildartz and August are relatively similar to one another, with Gildartz being slightly superior at the moment because of his extra feat.

I politely disagree there.Gildarts himself wasn't sure who would win if he and 100%God Serena clashed.He clearly mentioned that.He calls him a formidable opponent.And we even saw Historia God Serena actually managing to injure Gildarts.And we didn't see God Serena's full power.He has 4 other elements.Combine this with other 4 it will be a formidable opponent.Gildarts may win but it will not be anything less than high diff.And August is atleast a tier above God Serena.He is the strongest Spriggan stronger than Irene even,which Irene?The same Irene who is the second human after Zeref whom Acnologia praised.

 

[Nemispelled]

I politely disagree there.Gildarts himself wasn't sure who would win if he and 100%God Serena clashed.He clearly mentioned that.He calls him a formidable opponent.And we even saw Historia God Serena actually managing to injure Gildarts.And we didn't see God Serena's full power.He has 4 other elements.Combine this with other 4 it will be a formidable opponent.Gildarts may win but it will not be anything less than high diff.And August is atleast a tier above God Serena.He is the strongest Spriggan stronger than Irene even,which Irene?The same Irene who is the second human after Zeref whom Acnologia praised.

Gildartz was giving God Serena the benefit of the doubt.

There was no real way for Gildartz to know exactly how strong God Serena was compared to his Historia.

All he could tell was that original God Serena was strong, but he couldn't tell how strong.

If Gildartz had witnessed the real God Serena, he may not have held him to high regards.


In my opinion, Historia God Serena wasn't even close to being a threat to Gildartz.

Gildartz practically oneshotted God Serena when he decided to use a named spell.

God Serena landing a hit doesn't mean much because God Serena's fate would have ended the same if Gildartz used Empyrean from the start.

 

[Woodenstool]

I politely disagree there.Gildarts himself wasn't sure who would win if he and 100%God Serena clashed.He clearly mentioned that.He calls him a formidable opponent.And we even saw Historia God Serena actually managing to injure Gildarts.And we didn't see God Serena's full power.He has 4 other elements.Combine this with other 4 it will be a formidable opponent.Gildarts may win but it will not be anything less than high diff.And August is atleast a tier above God Serena.He is the strongest Spriggan stronger than Irene even,which Irene?The same Irene who is the second human after Zeref whom Acnologia praised.

There are only 4 elements that exist in the entire universe. Water, earth, fire, and wind. I don't see how having more dragon slayer magics gives him an advantage, Gildarts magic can destroy it.

All has Gildarts has to do use 2-5 mountain busting punches and Serena is out.

(I'm going to stop saying mountain busting punches, his casual punches are mountain+)

 

[Nemispelled]

August is far above Ajeel, but Ajeel isn't weak.

Laxus has better feats than Gildarts. Gildarts portrayal within the guild keeps him up there.

Laxus used a lightning bolt, some punches and Red Lightning. He could have used a nuke if he wanted to, but then destroying a town they want to liberate is silly.



Gildarts didn't oneshot Historia Serena. He took hits to his face, and so did Serena... before Empyrean.

I can agree that using an assumption like that might not hold. But I didn't use that assumption. I used their relative portrayal to Serena, which is reasonable with the little information there is.

I do disagree on Gildarts being superior, but being relatively similar might be true. The hype is surely in August' favour over anyone in FT sans Natsu.

Fair enough.

At this point, I can't disprove you, but I still stick to my stance on the matter.

Where we disagree is the difference between August, Gildartz, and Laxus.

I also happen to think that Ajeel is one of the weakest Spriggans, but I'm a one man army on that one lol.

 

[Woodenstool]

Fair enough.

At this point, I can't disprove you, but I still stick to my stance on the matter.

Where we disagree is the difference between August, Gildartz, and Laxus.

I also happen to think that Ajeel is one of the weakest Spriggans, but I'm a one man army on that one lol.

He's stronger than Invel, his sand absorb moisture rendering all of Invels attacks useless.

 

[Nemispelled]

He's stronger than Invel, his sand absorb moisture rendering all of Invels attacks useless.

Invel would insta-freeze him first.

Invel could insta-freeze Natsu who negated Ajeel's strongest spells.

And even so, once Invel pulls out Raiment, it's as good as over for Ajeel..

 

[Woodenstool]

Invel would insta-freeze him first.

Invel could insta-freeze Natsu who negated Ajeel's strongest spells.

And even so, once Invel pulls out Raiment, it's as good as over for Ajeel..

Ajeel is faster than Erza in a casual mindset. Gray who is slower than her blitzed him when he got his power up.

Insta freeze won't work because his body is made of sand that takes in moisture. Ice is just a solid form of water which is only weakness.

Sand world that absorbs water vs Blizzard. Ajeel diff wins.

 

[SirSamuel016]

There are only 4 elements that exist in the entire universe. Water, earth, fire, and wind. I don't see how having more dragon slayer magics gives him an advantage, Gildarts magic can destroy it.

All has Gildarts has to do use 2-5 mountain busting punches and Serena is out.

(I'm going to stop saying mountain busting punches, his casual punches are mountain+)

The dragon slaying elements we've seen thus far outside of Serena's Gale, Purgatory, Sea King and Cavern elements have been Fire, Iron, Sky, White, Shadow, Lightning and Poison. I'm pretty sure that is more than four elements like you're suggesting. Given what the element could be, it could prove difficult for Gildarts to deal with, like Rogue's shadow which as we've seen is generally hard to hit, so if Serena could channel something like that then Gildarts might be unable to do something to it.

And I seriously doubt Gildarts' regular punches are mountain+ level, otherwise anyone who has been hit by one would've been injured a fair bit.

 

[Nemispelled]

Ajeel is faster than Erza in a casual mindset. Gray who is slower than her blitzed him when he got his power up.

Insta freeze won't work because his body is made of sand that takes in moisture. Ice is just a solid form of water which is only weakness.

Sand world that absorbs water vs Blizzard. Ajeel diff wins.

Gray is faster than Erza.

Ajeel can't absorb the moisture immediately once he is frozen.

Just like how Natsu couldn't melt the ice off immediately once he was frozen.

It only takes Invel less than a few seconds to shatter Ajeel to pieces.

Or Invel can just Ice Slave him.

 

[Woodenstool]

The dragon slaying elements we've seen thus far outside of Serena's Gale, Purgatory, Sea King and Cavern elements have been Fire, Iron, Sky, White, Shadow, Lightning and Poison. I'm pretty sure that is more than four elements like you're suggesting. Given what the element could be, it could prove difficult for Gildarts to deal with, like Rogue's shadow which as we've seen is generally hard to hit, so if Serena could channel something like that then Gildarts might be unable to do something to it.

And I seriously doubt Gildarts' regular punches are mountain+ level, otherwise anyone who has been hit by one would've been injured a fair bit.

He lifted his hand busted the mountain, then asked Natsu to fight him some more. It was unnamed and his Empryean shattered the clouds.

Sky, shadow, poison, etc aren't elements. Those are just dragon slathering magic, elements are different. Lol.

Shadow form won't do anything to Gildarts honestly. Crash broke a black hole, a point of infinite gravity. His magic destroys other magics and shadow form is magic

 

[SirSamuel016]

Gray is faster than Erza.

I'd disagree here. Gray hasn't really shown feats of him being faster than Erza in her Flight Armour, or in some instances a fair bit of her other armour too. He might be close to matching her when it comes to battle smarts or power, but in speed? He definitely loses here.

Ajeel can't absorb the moisture immediately once he is frozen. Just like how Natsu couldn't melt the ice off immediately once he was frozen.

Well I'd put it down to plot convenience that Natsu didn't melt the ice off instantly, Mashima needed to have some time for Gray and Invel to have an initial spar, or there would be no real point to having a Gray vs Invel fight if Natsu instantly thawed the ice away which he probably could do, but Mashima simply didn't opt for the fight to go like that.
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He lifted his hand busted the mountain, then asked Natsu to fight him some more. It was unnamed and his Empryean shattered the clouds.

Sky, shadow, poison, etc aren't elements. Those are just dragon slathering magic, elements are different. Lol.

Shadow form won't do anything to Gildarts honestly. Crash broke a black hole, a point of infinite gravity. His magic destroys other magics and shadow form is magic

I'd disagree. Shadow magic can be used so your opponent cannot hit you, and in a way it is a bit like Bradman's particles with the whole intangibility thing. Gildarts isn't guaranteed to be able to hit everything before him, and given the nature of the Shadow magic, Gildarts might struggle to be able to deal with it initially until he catches on like Gajeel had to against Rogue in the past.

 

[Nemispelled]

I'd disagree here. Gray hasn't really shown feats of him being faster than Erza in her Flight Armour, or in some instances a fair bit of her other armour too. He might be close to matching her when it comes to battle smarts or power, but in speed? He definitely loses here.

Well, that's where we disagree.

Even so, speed isn't as important because Erza would lose if she got close to Gray.

Same with Ajeel and Invel.

If Ajeel moves in for the attack, Invel would just freeze him and shatter him immediately.

Well I'd put it down to plot convenience that Natsu didn't melt the ice off instantly, Mashima needed to have some time for Gray and Invel to have an initial spar, or there would be no real point to having a Gray vs Invel fight if Natsu instantly thawed the ice away which he probably could do, but Mashima simply didn't opt for the fight to go like that.

Don't see why Natsu wants to stay frozen.

One, he hates ice, especially when he is covered in it.

Two, it makes him looks weak, and he hates that.


He could have broken out of the ice and just stand on the sidelines to watch the fight, but instead, he was frozen for some time. That means that it took him some time to break out..

 

[Woodenstool]

Gray is faster than Erza.

Ajeel can't absorb the moisture immediately once he is frozen.

Just like how Natsu couldn't melt the ice off immediately once he was frozen.

It only takes Invel less than a few seconds to shatter Ajeel to pieces.

Or Invel can just Ice Slave him.

http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/454/18
Sliced all guards without him knowing.
http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/455/11
This page shows both of their speeds, Ajeel blocking the swords with one hand and Erza popping out of nowhere.

Edit* Erza has always been stronger than Gray before the TS.
http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/495/13

 

[Arjuna]

Gildartz was giving God Serena the benefit of the doubt.

There was no real way for Gildartz to know exactly how strong God Serena was compared to his Historia.

All he could tell was that original God Serena was strong, but he couldn't tell how strong.

If Gildartz had witnessed the real God Serena, he may not have held him to high regards.


In my opinion, Historia God Serena wasn't even close to being a threat to Gildartz.

Gildartz practically oneshotted God Serena when he decided to use a named spell.

God Serena landing a hit doesn't mean much because God Serena's fate would have ended the same if Gildartz used Empyrean from the start.

He did say if God Serena was alive he would be a formidable opponent by sensing his magic.And by just sensing his Historia magic he was praising his real version.And if he had met real it would have just been praise and nothing else.And we don't really know whether he really knew him because he did say he always wanted to see who would win if they clashed.So Gildarts himself was not sure.So Hiro is suggesting it is 50 50 chance.