Yeah the phone things take forever. And it really tests your blood pressure
Markarov said if natsu used his real power he could take out laxus. After he said erza could handle laxus.
Simon i think also talked about how no evil thing could stand infront natsu
Same with erza, release your real power natsu.
This was pretty common theme back then.
Yeah, statements are cannon, but with ishigar saint hype, demon gates hype, springgan hype and elemental four hype. It really makes it hard to believe them.
I normally agree with bad guys hype with relationship with themselves, like jura was the strongest opponent in gmg, or august is one of the strongest springings. But when these hype is compared with good guys. l say bs.
Kind of like how natsu was trying hold back igneel power when brandish appeared.
Why didnt he just one shot her instead
Like nienhart
Yes, because there are context and other stuffs which we might be unaware of. Mishma has zero power scaling credibility.
It took erza what three hits to put ajeel down ,
Wahl couldnt put down laxus suffering from cancer in same amount of hits.
It is normally agreed, that ajeel is stronger than erza.
So if ajeel > erza
Then erza required three hits to finish ajeel
But since wahl cant do that with cancerous laxus then we have at least
Laxus >> laxus almost dieing of cancer >> wahl = ajeel
Which is completely ridiculous a
With power scalling like this, i think i have an excuse.
And of course, dont forget lissana is probably still fighting against ajeel
I mean think about it. It took five seconds, for natsu to handle nienhart. And ajeel is probably still fighting lissana.
So it should be
Natsu >>>> nienhart
Ajeel > lissana
You cant expect me to take his power scaling seriously, can you?
Didnt laxus just kind of leaped at wahl before red lightning. Wahl was laughing his head off at the time. So i didn't think his speed at that particular instance was note worthy
Markarov in gmg was more impressed by erza and kagura speed then he was of laxus lb speed.
But i can also take statement from manga and come up with different things. You have to specifically ignore some stuffs
Jellal wondering who would win, him or erza
Markarov believing that erza could take out laxus
Erza comparing elemental four with s class
Gray saying he knows no one who can take on erza.
Jellal saying erza is tge only one who might be able to handle zero
Sting being stronger than natsu
Markarov believing that kagurs is stronger than erza when he was looking at them fighting
Demon gate saying that curse is superior to magic
Markarov believeing that ajeel could handle natsu plus gray plus erza plus lucy plus wendy plus markarov.
Ajeel believing he can solo ishigar himself.
Ishigar saint being strongest in the continent
Or you adding stuffs to explain erza or kagura speed, to make sense with what you already perceive to be right. The non magic speed thing you speak of.
Simple fact is, erza was shown to be superior to natsu by alot of ways
Laxus wasnt shown at all to be superior to erza
Erza was portrayed to be above natsu by considerable amount
Laxus portrayal above erza is basically around one statement.
So even if i was to agree to
Laxus > erza
I will have priority to something which has been mentioned many times more and actually shown
So it would be erza >> natsu
And in ff arc laxus >> natsu
So this laxus > erza becomes weak
Feats always above portrayal
So aria >= gajeel (blinded aria was low diffing natsu, how much powerful can natsu really get just like that)
By performance
Same with laxus not being tiers above the rest because we already know the difference between laxus and natsu. And erza and natsu.
Think about this for a second. Many people still believe erigor hyping himself after he used his strongest move to blow away natsu weakest spell. Many people still believe that fire is weak to wind.
Then we have silver who decided ice would be best to handle fire demon END.
One thing has been consistent throughout the series, bad guys get over hyped to the moon. But never deliver.
If laxus was shown to be above erza by considerable amount before his jura fight i would have agreed. But since he was portrayed to be around erza, and has no specific feat that would put him above erza. I have to believe that jura didnt deliver.
I go by this
Jellal was ws in start of the series
Jura was weakest ws in os arc
Erza was a ws tier in start as well
so pre ts
Jellal >= jura >= erza
Everyone gained same amount of power in timeskip
Well atleast the main character didnt fall behind power iafter the first time skip
So gmg arc
Jellal >= jura >= so erza
Unless, of course you believe erza, one of the mary sues of the manga, is destined to fall behind everyone else. Beside all the main characters got same power up.
Also it took three os memeber to put erza down. Erza knew nothing about them, and they also used sneak attack
Post ts jellal had to go all out to put four os down. With midnight only jumping in at the end. And i dont think he teamed at the end
For speed base
Pre so Erza kagura last strike was so fast that markarov couldnt follow it.
This is the same guy who blocked hades 25 formula
The same kind of spell laxus couldnt dodge
So speed wise there shouldnt be a huge difference
Tenrou erza enduring that tera clemare twice. The same spell which was powered by all fairy members
Which would mean
Tenrou erza durability or endurance >>>>>> gmg laxus
Ok, lets just say they are in the same ball park again. Makes more sense
Brute strength. Kagura with sealed sword could wipe out a jupitor tier attack. We know what that can do to titan markarov. Prq so Erza and kagura could still step up their game. So pre so erza should be around tenrou laxus power level.
Erza has been consistently been compared to ws from the start. Laxus wâs compared in gmg and so was pre so erza. Natsu was not.
I use combination of feats and hype. Hype alone in this manga, no way.
I will let you have the final word, unless you specifically request for some answers for convoluted way i power scale.
