Nah that's because he is in the same guild. I don't think it's all about power. Acno would have been a better role model to him if you are talking about power.Natsu still looks up to Laxus so I doubt he is above him.
Nah that's because he is in the same guild. I don't think it's all about power. Acno would have been a better role model to him if you are talking about power.Natsu still looks up to Laxus so I doubt he is above him.
Natsu looks upto Erza as well.
Just means he respects them and how strong they are. Doesn't mean they're stronger
nah, I doubt that.Nah that's because he is in the same guild. I don't it's all about power. Acno would have been a better role model to him if you are talking about power.
No way in hell Erza is. Base Natsu would give Erza mid-high diff.Woah woah not FDKM. DF over Everyone.
Laxus, and gildarts and erza above FDKM.
FDKM >> Mira, Gray, Gajeel and the rest
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Yes Irene
Natsu was in base and used FDK spell and burned his hand off.No way in hell Erza is. Base Natsu would give Erza mid-high diff.
Laxus........MAYBE.
FDKM is a huge boost to power.
I know we shit on Zeref here, but FDKM gave Zeref a run for his money, ONE SHOTTED Jacob etc
Erza with broken bones would like to have a few words with youYes Irene

So does Irene's clawsErza with broken bones would like to have a few words with you![]()
Using FDK spell means he's in FDKM. He doesn't need to spell it out every time lol.Natsu was in base and used FDK spell and burned his hand off.
max PoF Natsu beats anyone, I agree.
She just took RL Laxus to an extreme diff wym??No way in hell Erza is. Base Natsu would give Erza mid-high diff.
Laxus........MAYBE.
FDKM is a huge boost to power.
I know we shit on Zeref here, but FDKM gave Zeref a run for his money, ONE SHOTTED Jacob etc
With borrowed magics and buffs.She just took RL Laxus to an extreme diff wym??
no it doesn't fam.Using FDK spell means he's in FDKM. He doesn't need to spell it out every time lol.
Go see the panel where he one shotted Jacob. I think mountains and rivers go vaporized lol.
FDKM is convincingly > Erza, and IMHO > Laxus

No the enchantments she got taught. It's her own power.With borrowed magics and buffs.
Normal Erza gets mid-high diff'd by Laxus
FDKM destroys stuff only when fanservice is demanded lol. Whamen's clothes have to go off somehow, you seeno it doesn't fam.
going FDKM destroys everyhing around him.
against Zeref, he didn't even bust up a chair![]()
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ha it didn't in his first fight against Zeref and against Jacob (well, not women anyway) so...FDKM destroys stuff only when fanservice is demanded lol. Whamen's clothes have to go off somehow, you see![]()



Enchantment powers is her own, but the source for Gray and Natsu swords are they themselves.No the enchantments she got taught. It's her own power.
Clearly not with the last fight
what if those enchantments are permanentEnchantment powers is her own, but the source for Gray and Natsu swords are they themselves.
She can enchant them to her sword, but only from Natsu and Gray.
Let me make it clear. She has learned to enchant stuff now by herself, but she needs sources for enchanting stuff unless they come from within her. Which means:
- she needs a DS to get Dragon Slayer sword
- she needs Gray to get ice DS sword
- she needs Natsu to get fire DS sword
Those are not her powers. What she has learnt is to attribute someone else's powers onto her swords.
Yes she does. See how Laxus was treating her in the beginning of the fight lol.
She needed boost from Dragon Seal (source Wendy), Gray sword (source Gray) and Natsu sword (source Natsu) to give extreme diff to Laxus who already wasted significant magic on Kiria (he used secret art on her).
She used the swords barely. Literally right after she switched to her own armours.Enchantment powers is her own, but the source for Gray and Natsu swords are they themselves.
She can enchant them to her sword, but only from Natsu and Gray.
Let me make it clear. She has learned to enchant stuff now by herself, but she needs sources for enchanting stuff unless they come from within her. Which means:
- she needs a DS to get Dragon Slayer sword
- she needs Gray to get ice DS sword
- she needs Natsu to get fire DS sword
Those are not her powers. What she has learnt is to attribute someone else's powers onto her swords.
Yes she does. See how Laxus was treating her in the beginning of the fight lol.
She needed boost from Dragon Seal (source Wendy), Gray sword (source Gray) and Natsu sword (source Natsu) to give extreme diff to Laxus who already wasted significant magic on Kiria (he used secret art on her).
Then she has replaced Natsu and Gray in utility. I doubt Hiro would do it. He might shit on Gray, but he wanks Natsu as much as he wanks Erza.what if those enchantments are permanent![]()
I think it's implied that he's in those modes when he uses them. It's inconvenient to draw the effects and namedrop them every-time those spells are used. I think Mashima namedrops them only when he wants to emphasize and bring attention to itha it didn't in his first fight against Zeref and against Jacob (well, not women anyway) so...
he can use FDK in base, same as he can with LFD attacks.
Zeref is simply weaker than his own Spriggans![]()
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5-10% is significant lol. It makes the difference between Laxus laying down in exhaustion after the fight, and still having magic to spareShe used the swords barely. Literally right after she switched to her own armours.
Yesterday you said the DS secret arts barely wasted his magic now you say significant? Pick a side.
So does Mira only use external powers since she uses takeover?
But Laxus was the one who called BS on his own power-up.
Downplaying Erza to a whole new level
it's possible but he didn't really had some huge aura around him (nor was anything aflame) and only his fist was aflame.I think it's implied that he's in those modes when he uses them. It's inconvenient to draw the effects and namedrop them every-time those spells are used. I think Mashima namedrops them only when he wants to emphasize and bring attention to it
No it's not. 5-10% of a full powered Laxus is not at all. He definitely used more than that.Then she has replaced Natsu and Gray in utility. I doubt Hiro would do it. He might shit on Gray, but he wanks Natsu as much as he wanks Erza.
But the way I see it is similar to Natsu using Igneel's flames. Except here, she can get those powers again whenever she wants from Natsu and Gray.
I think it's implied that he's in those modes when he uses them. It's inconvenient to draw the effects and namedrop them every-time those spells are used. I think Mashima namedrops them only when he wants to emphasize and bring attention to it
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5-10% is significant lol. It makes the difference between Laxus laying down in exhaustion after the fight, and still having magic to spare
It depends. By my logic If she takes over a demon that is already half-dead or a demon that was defeated by someone else then she is using burrowed powers, if she beats it and then take over then no.So does Mira only use external powers since she uses takeover?