Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Jko]

Ya but she beleive that natsu solo acno 1v1 plus she didn’t know that till this arc so in her mind she was thought the guild was defenseless without the squad regardless.
And natsu respects laxus and gildartz very much too ur point?

But it proved her point lol.

Natsu has more accolades than both combined so she holds Natsu in a higher regard. He solo-ed Zeref so she obviously thought he contributed the most in the Acno fight which he did. Only other contributor in the RoT was Wendy lol. Erza is like a FT fan that doesn't get how much plot it took for him to win lol.

 

[GL_Nova]

Gild ain't at the guild so he was exempt. She would at least place Gild above herself lol.

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I mean is she really wrong? If we look at Alvarez then her and Natsu were the biggest contributors in Ishgar's win against Alvarez. They took out the most enemies in the war lol. Natsu had 3 S12s and Erza had 1, but kind had two others as she had one suicide for her and made the other guy defenseless for Jellal. They were racking up the numbers in Alvarez more so than the other members, but I admit that was a hella cocky thing to think. It was OOC to me bcs I don't really see why she would underrate her entire guild like that especially when they have several powerhouses still in it.

Clearly she was. Laxus has been ahead of her the entire series. An Mira, Gajeel, Elfman, Thunder Legion. As she Admits

But it proved her point lol.

Natsu has more accolades than both combined so she holds Natsu in a higher regard. He solo-ed Zeref so she obviously thought he contributed the most in the Acno fight which he did. Only other contributor in the RoT was Wendy lol. Erza is like a FT fan that doesn't get how much plot it took for him to win lol.

Laxus is the only one who landed a blow on Acno after he went on the offensive in the manga. An I’m the anime he definitely was pushing the hardest.

 

[Jko]

Clearly she was. Laxus has been ahead of her the entire series. An Mira, Gajeel, Elfman, Thunder Legion. As she Admits


Laxus is the only one who landed a blow on Acno after he went on the offensive in the manga. An I’m the anime he definitely was pushing the hardest.

Yet Laxus accolades wouldn't stack up to hers. She's cocky for sure, but Natsu and her are the biggest contributors within fights to protect the guild.

Laxus didn't do anything to Acno and got smacked lol. The fact that Acno was only dodging Natsu's attacks and let everyone else wail on him shows me he only took Natsu as a threat. Natsu is also the only one to block a lethal hit from Acno as well.

 

[Crimson Ice]

Gild ain't at the guild so he was exempt. She would at least place Gild above herself lol.

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I mean is she really wrong? If we look at Alvarez then her and Natsu were the biggest contributors in Ishgar's win against Alvarez. They took out the most enemies in the war lol. Natsu had 3 S12s and Erza had 1, but kind had two others as she had one suicide for her and made the other guy defenseless for Jellal. They were racking up the numbers in Alvarez more so than the other members, but I admit that was a hella cocky thing to think. It was OOC to me bcs I don't really see why she would underrate her entire guild like that especially when they have several powerhouses still in it.

Yes she’s wrong. Couldn’t even beat Ajeel without help yet she thought her and Natsu were running shit?

 

[Jko]

Yes she’s wrong. Couldn’t even beat Ajeel without help yet she thought her and Natsu were running shit?

They did contribute to the biggest losses for the Alvarez army and Gild isn't at the guild so she kind of isn't wrong, but more arrogant. She was probably hyped of those feats she got in Alvarezand she got a rude awakening lol.

 

[Crimson Ice]

They did contribute to the biggest losses for the Alvarez army and Gild isn't at the guild so she kind of isn't wrong, but more arrogant. She was probably hyped of those feats she got in Alvarezand she got a rude awakening lol.

Biggest loss? Irene murked Erza then killed herself. Laxus pulled more weight than Erza when they went to the port, she should have know what was up. But yeah, she was arrogant. It’s also weird how they act like Natsu generally bested Acnologia one on one like it didn’t take the whole continent helping him.

 

[LaGOAT]

But it proved her point lol.

Natsu has more accolades than both combined so she holds Natsu in a higher regard. He solo-ed Zeref so she obviously thought he contributed the most in the Acno fight which he did. Only other contributor in the RoT was Wendy lol. Erza is like a FT fan that doesn't get how much plot it took for him to win lol.

I dont think u get my point why would she think that when she know her guild members help out in the war a year ago. especially laxus and gildartz??

That doesn’t prove that erza respect gildartz ur using natsu accolades to justify gildartz and natsu and herself did more shit than gildartz again her statement meant natsu and herself>gildartz. Plus she specifically said natsu beat acno not the dragon slayers meaning she actually believe that

 

[aymen24]

It’s also weird how they act like Natsu generally bested Acnologia one on one like it didn’t take the whole continent helping him.

This thing was provocative
There is no respect for everyone's efforts
Especially people who were facing the dragon form in the outside world or even the sacrifice from igneel

 

[Jko]

I dont think u get my point why would she think that when she know her guild members help out in the war a year ago. especially laxus and gildartz??

That doesn’t prove that erza respect gildartz ur using natsu accolades to justify gildartz and natsu and herself did more shit than gildartz again her statement meant natsu and herself>gildartz. Plus she specifically said natsu beat acno not the dragon slayers meaning she actually believe that

Gildarts was not at the guild when they left. Yes her guild members helped, but if they got attack by another serious threat then their manpower wouldn't even be at half strength. She was arrogant to overestimate her own abilities (guess she was hyped on her own bs too lol), but she did have a legitimate concern regard the power of the guild w/o Team Natsu and you can count Gild out as well since he's never there.

She has shown the man respect. Has she ever doubted Gild's power? If memory serves she only kept wondering if Laxus specifically was that powerful. She never once doubted Gild's capabilities. Only relevant Slayer besides Natsu was Wendy and that's bcs she buffed him. Let's be honest Natsu was on God tier level he was just out of magic. 6DS who range from fodder to high tier are not going to tip over and exhausted God tier's MP by a considerable margin lol. Did he do it alone? No, but he was the only one capable of killing Acno which is the biggest thing lol.

 

[LaGOAT]

Gildarts was not at the guild when they left. Yes her guild members helped, but if they got attack by another serious threat then their manpower wouldn't even be at half strength. She was arrogant to overestimate her own abilities (guess she was hyped on her own bs too lol), but she did have a legitimate concern regard the power of the guild w/o Team Natsu and you can count Gild out as well since he's never there.

She has shown the man respect. Has she ever doubted Gild's power? If memory serves she only kept wondering if Laxus specifically was that powerful. She never once doubted Gild's capabilities. Only relevant Slayer besides Natsu was Wendy and that's bcs she buffed him. Let's be honest Natsu was on God tier level he was just out of magic. 6DS who range from fodder to high tier are not going to tip over and exhausted God tier's MP by a considerable margin lol. Did he do it alone? No, but he was the only one capable of killing Acno which is the biggest thing lol.

Again why? team natsu is as strong as team b(gmg arc) again unless she felt that Lucy and Wendy>>Mirajane(ur fav) and gajeel and yes I putting jellal there too he a part time FT member
Yes she was underestimated her guild members and then realized when she lost to laxus.

again same logic with natsu. Natsu respects laxus and gildartz but that doesn’t mean natsu>gildartz And laxus her having respect for some1 doesn’t mean ur weaker/stronger

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Natsu turned the bonds of his guild into fire, it was some Fairy Glitter type shit that beat Zeref. It's no coincidence that The One magic was explained just as Natsu beats what should've been the ultimate power, he must've used it.

Well realistically she thought the entirety of team Natsu wasn't there to protect the guild, since they all left, but now she knows she doesn't have to worry, cause Laxus>team Natsu

Well I mean team natsu struggled against ajeel but laxus saved their asses and almost oneshotted the dude That ain’t far fetched

 

[Jko]

Again why? team natsu is as strong as team b(gmg arc) again unless she felt that Lucy and Wendy>>Mirajane(ur fav) and gajeel and yes I putting jellal there too he a part time FT member
Yes she was underestimated her guild members and then realized when she lost to laxus.

again same logic with natsu. Natsu respects laxus and gildartz but that doesn’t mean natsu>gildartz And laxus her having respect for some1 doesn’t mean ur weaker/stronger

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Well I mean team natsu struggled against ajeel but laxus saved their asses and almost oneshotted the dude That ain’t far fetch

Not saying she didn't underestimate them, but w/o Natsu, Erza, Gray, and Gild the guild wouldn't even be at half the manpower. So her concern for the guild's safety is legitimate. Her underestimating guild members like freaking Laxus or Mira is where she became massively arrogant since I guess she was hyped off that BS she pulled in Alvarez lol. Jellal ain't in the guild so he don't count. He just got dragged along for that cringey Jerza moments.

Huh? I have never seen Erza ever doubt Gild's power. I doubt she'd place herself above him when everyone in the Gild reveres Gild's power.

I know, but Erza not only has respect for him, but knows that he hold the #1 guild spot bar Natsu. She never questioned why Natsu looked up to Gild lol.

 

[LaGOAT]

Not saying she didn't underestimate them, but w/o Natsu, Erza, Gray, and Gild the guild wouldn't even be at half the manpower. So her concern for the guild's safety is legitimate. Her underestimating guild members like freaking Laxus or Mira is where she became massively arrogant since I guess she was hyped off that BS she pulled in Alvarez lol. Jellal ain't in the guild so he don't count. He just got dragged along for that cringey Jerza moments.


Huh? I have never seen Erza ever doubt Gild's power. I doubt she'd place herself above him when everyone in the Gild reveres Gild's power.

I know, but Erza not only has respect for him, but knows that he hold the #1 guild spot bar Natsu. She never questioned why Natsu looked up to Gild lol.

No she was directly said her team not just natsu and gray he underestimated every1 thinking that Lucy and Wendy can pull their own weight above gajeel and the disrespect. 2. Doesn’t matter I said jellal is a part timer plus he was there when WW oneshotted every1.

Bro u don’t get it having respect for some1 doesn’t determine strength for example I can respect u but that doesn’t mean that I believe ur stronger than me. Rather if ur stronger or weaker than me I can still respect you regardless.

Erza thinks natsu is the strongest not gildartz. whil natsu had common sense to know that gildartz and Laxus are stronger since she brought up he solo acno. She probably did once she did the impossible vs acno and she knew what happened to gildartz prior so..

 

[aymen24]

I think she really thinks Natsu is stronger than Gildarts
Everyone knows that Gildarts failed in the quest (Because of Acno)

But when elfeseria tells them about the level of the Five Dragons
She said: natsu is the one who defeated acno
So we should be able to handle this quest

 

[GL_Nova]

Whatever she thought, now she knows she was wrong lol

 

[bugen]

What everyone thinks is not necessary to take it seriously.

Natsu should be far superior to Gajeel and there they are very close to his level.
Most believed that Laxus would slash Erza and there is a double ko.
Everyone forgets Elfman and he is amazing for now.

Of course, Erza should have said that Natsu beat Acnologia with the help of the other 6, unless she doesn't know that information.

 

[Jko]

No she was directly said her team not just natsu and gray he underestimated every1 thinking that Lucy and Wendy can pull their own weight above gajeel and the disrespect. 2. Doesn’t matter I said jellal is a part timer plus he was there when WW oneshotted every1.

Bro u don’t get it having respect for some1 doesn’t determine strength for example I can respect u but that doesn’t mean that I believe ur stronger than me. Rather if ur stronger or weaker than me I can still respect you regardless.

Erza thinks natsu is the strongest not gildartz. whil natsu had common sense to know that gildartz and Laxus are stronger since she brought up he solo acno. She probably did once she did the impossible vs acno and she knew what happened to gildartz prior so..

Where in the heck are you getting she implied anywhere near that? She was obviously talking about Natsu, Gray and herself when she was talking about the defense line of FT. Wendy to an extent as well seeing as Wendy is the most OP support in the guild. Jellal isn't a part timer at all. He literally only came to the guild bcs the person he was looking for was there.

She was relieved when Gild came back bcs she know how OP he is.

Spoiler

Was there ever a time where she underestimated Gild's power? Was there ever a time she say she could beat him? They were all happy (except Natsu) that Gild wasn't fighting lol. She only ever implied that Natsu was stronger than Gild bvs he beat Acno lol. Her arrogance only stems to Laxus and below. Dunno why she was talking about needing Natsu or Gray when she thought she was above Laxus lol.

Natsu never stated Laxus was stronger than himself. He only wanted to battle him bcs he was strong. He literally thought he could take Laxus along with 2 other high tier FT mages and Jellal lmao. Maybe, but she got a rude awakening for thinking that.

 

[Crimson Ice]

Where in the heck are you getting she implied anywhere near that? She was obviously talking about Natsu, Gray and herself when she was talking about the defense line of FT. Wendy to an extent as well seeing as Wendy is the most OP support in the guild. Jellal isn't a part timer at all. He literally only came to the guild bcs the person he was looking for was there.

She was relieved when Gild came back bcs she know how OP he is.

Spoiler

Was there ever a time where she underestimated Gild's power? Was there ever a time she say she could beat him? They were all happy (except Natsu) that Gild wasn't fighting lol. She only ever implied that Natsu was stronger than Gild bvs he beat Acno lol. Her arrogance only stems to Laxus and below. Dunno why she was talking about needing Natsu or Gray when she thought she was above Laxus lol.

Natsu never stated Laxus was stronger than himself. He only wanted to battle him bcs he was strong. He literally thought he could take Laxus along with 2 other high tier FT mages and Jellal lmao. Maybe, but she got a rude awakening for thinking that.

Her arrogance doesn’t even steem with Laxus lol. She says she wished she had Natsu or Gray with her just to fight Laxus.

 

[AmitDS]

Gemini was used. It was used to copy Lisanna, and immediately got oneshotted by Skullion. If Lucy could have copied Elfman, she would have done so. The fact that it was only able to copy Lisanna says everything.

Lucy is not stalemating Madmole, especially not if you think Madmole is stronger than Kyria. There's not a single one of her attacks that can even damage Madmole. Kyria oneshotted Lucy, and Kyria is on Madmole's level.

Spoiler

Elfman literally tanked all of Lucy's best attacks, smacked around Loke, and then stalemated the person who oneshotted Taurus.

Gemini was not used to its full potential. Lucy can copy herself with Gemini. So 2 Lucys + another spirit would do better vs Elfman than Leo alone. Elfman didn't severely hurt Lucy or Leo with his punches while he hurt Madmole with them presumably after a dragged out fight and multiple hits so yes so far feats indicate that Elfman can beat Lucy in a fight but it's not 100% as yet since we never saw Lucy vs Elfman.

We also saw Elfman get hurt by both Madmole and Lucy so unlike Madmole who Lucy may not be able to hurt, Elfman is less durable.

Elfman was hurt by her star dress mix spell but it didn't do enough. Vs Lucy alone he would be more damaged than he was by Leo's attacks which would change the whole flow of the battle i.e. her biggest moves would be more effective since he would be more injured due to her + 2 spirits focusing on him. Conversely in a hypothetical match up he'd have at least 3 targets with 2 of them being Lucy herself in a star dress with various abilities.

Elfman can be stronger than Lucy however due to the nature of her power she can make a clone of herself which is as powerful as her for app 5 minutes. So the question is if Elfman is more powerful than Lucy x 2 + a spirit in battle. We've already seen multiple weaker mages team up to defeat a stronger one, for example Lisanna and Elfman himself vs Ajeel, so it isn't out of the realm of possibility that Lucy can use Gemini to clone herself and tag team him while in they're both in star dresses or star dress mix forms.

So I agree that it is likely that Elfman has more magical power than Lucy and is likely stronger though I don't believe a vs scenario between the 2 would result in him low-mid diffing her as people believe and I think it could go either way simply because of the nature of their abilities & the fact that Elfman has weaknesses such as opponents with great speed and he's CQC brawler so can be countered with another. Cancer and Scorpio dress Lucy already moved too fast for Brandish to track, in her Aquarius star dress she moved the entire landscape, Aries' wool held against Juvia's attacks, her water barrier protected her from Jackal's curse and these are all weaker versions of Lucy than current Lucy who believes that Taurus' strength itself can hold out against Elfman's. which Loke tanked and took for a while before getting tied up.

 

[Axiomus]

Gemini was not used to its full potential. Lucy can copy herself with Gemini. So 2 Lucys + another spirit would do better vs Elfman than Leo alone. Elfman didn't severely hurt Lucy or Leo with his punches while he hurt Madmole with them presumably after a dragged out fight and multiple hits so yes so far feats indicate that Elfman can beat Lucy in a fight but it's not 100% as yet since we never saw Lucy vs Elfman.

We also saw Elfman get hurt by both Madmole and Lucy so unlike Madmole who Lucy may not be able to hurt, Elfman is less durable.

Elfman was hurt by her star dress mix spell but it didn't do enough. Vs Lucy alone he would be more damaged than he was by Leo's attacks which would change the whole flow of the battle i.e. her biggest moves would be more effective since he would be more injured due to her + 2 spirits focusing on him. Conversely in a hypothetical match up he'd have at least 3 targets with 2 of them being Lucy herself in a star dress with various abilities.

Elfman can be stronger than Lucy however due to the nature of her power she can make a clone of herself which is as powerful as her for app 5 minutes. So the question is if Elfman is more powerful than Lucy x 2 + a spirit in battle. We've already seen multiple weaker mages team up to defeat a stronger one, for example Lisanna and Elfman himself vs Ajeel, so it isn't out of the realm of possibility that Lucy can use Gemini to clone herself and tag team him while in they're both in star dresses or star dress mix forms.

So I agree that it is likely that Elfman has more magical power than Lucy and is likely stronger though I don't believe a vs scenario between the 2 would result in him low-mid diffing her as people believe and I think it could go either way simply because of the nature of their abilities & the fact that Elfman has weaknesses such as opponents with great speed and he's CQC brawler so can be countered with another. Cancer and Scorpio dress Lucy already moved too fast for Brandish to track, in her Aquarius star dress she moved the entire landscape, Aries' wool held against Juvia's attacks, her water barrier protected her from Jackal's curse and these are all weaker versions of Lucy than current Lucy who believes that Taurus' strength itself can hold out against Elfman's. which Loke tanked and took for a while before getting tied up.

Sure. Lucy can copy herself, but the strongest attack Lucy herself can use is still her star dress mix. Which Elfman can tank.

I make no claims on the difficulty, but the bottom line is that Lucy didn't win any exchanges against Elfman. Elfman tanked Lucy's best attack, and then beat Loke, and then stalemated the guy that oneshotted Taurus. At face value, he simply has better showings.

 

[Verter]

Cancer and Scorpio dress Lucy already moved too fast for Brandish to track, in her Aquarius star dress she moved the entire landscape, Aries' wool held against Juvia's attacks, her water barrier protected her from Jackal's curse and these are all weaker versions of Lucy than current Lucy who believes that Taurus' strength itself can hold out against Elfman's. which Loke tanked and took for a while before getting tied up.

You use wrong examples (I comment only part of post due economy of place).

1) Brandish vs Lucy is irrelevant.
DiMaria stated "how long you (Randi) will play a comedy and pretending you're fight her". Brandish noticed DiMaria near and so...

So all Lucy efforts.. yeah, it's cool, but it's meaningless. DiMaria in blick of eyes stomp both Brandish and Lucy. Brandish could do similar for Lucy (as DiMaria confirmed).

2) Lucy vs Elfman

Elfman is tank. It doesn't have any value how fast can move or how much his opponent has APS.
Destiny for tank (character, noun) is... tank (verb) damage.

Elfman is physical tank (who tanked as well Natsu and Gray punches) - Lucy is summoner.
Elfman kick would result "kyaa" by Lucy.
So, Lucy should beat Elfman before he reaches her, But Lucy is unable to do so.

Did you really see in manga how Lucy received full-kick in her face ?! She is a girl and she's summoner in 1st and 2nd place. It's not her destiny.

Compare combat capabilities between Lucy and Elfman… as between Chuck Norris and Emilia Clarke.

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It's funny and sad.

Lucy suffer same fate as summoners in each MMORPG.

With endgame gear ~ summons are trash (and /almost/ for one nuke), but your skills weaker then non-summon classes have.