Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

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at this point, I'm a closet @sharkai fan :emobirb

the fact that he puts Laxus on the same tier as Erza fills that void in my heart that I simply cry tears of joy :emocat

I just hope Erza doesn't wake up before Laxus because then

Next chapter Erza is up and about while Laxus is still napping in the church.
 

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Power ranking in the manga where there is the power of feelings (Plotsu and Plotza who without this power are mediocre fighters / magicians with 0 actual feats/achievements).:yodawg
yeah yeah yeah very interesting topic (:disappoint)
Huh? Natsu is the strongest member of the guild without PoF.

DF isn't PoF.

Same thing with Erza she's stronger than most Ishgar mages.

Your downplay is hilarious.

Using your logic then Gray, Gajeel and basically anyone who uses a lot of PoF are all mediocre
 

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DF Natsu, yeah

Being able to destroy Zeref's body is beyond anything Laxus can withstand.
He withstood Acnologia. 🤔 I can see him winning but it would take a miraculous POF to one-shot Laxus.
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at this point, I'm a closet @sharkai fan :emobirb

the fact that he puts Laxus on the same tier as Erza fills that void in my heart that I simply cry tears of joy :emocat

I just hope Erza doesn't wake up before Laxus because then

Erza is definitely getting up first. She got up first in Alvarez as well. An sadly Laxus isn’t getting another fight this arc. That’s why I’ve shifted focus to how well Jellal and Mira are going to perform. Elfman and Cana as well. I’m not even worried about the other main members at this point. I know they’ll get satisfactory moments. I’m hoping we continue to upgrade the guild as a whole.
 

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Except for Lily running out of time against Azuma, and Gajeel being stronger than him at full strength. No, he specifically says "out of time", Azuma injured him I'll grant you, floored him even, but the reason he was beaten was because he ran out of time.

Dodging an AoE attack requires more speed than blocking it, simple as that. Laxus reacted to it just fine. Oh and Hades was serious by that point, everyone noted that mid-way through his battle with Team Natsu(around the time they got stomped) Hades magic power jumped massively, Laxus took that on.

No, Wendy specifically mentioned that Laxus LET Hades' Kamehameha hit him so he could give Natsu his magic. Natsu also then makes clear that Laxus could have kept fighting instead of giving him his magic since he's "so much stronger". Laxus wasn't done, he just wanted someone with a guild mark to beat Hades, this is canon.

Actually Azuma doesn't even get the guilds MP, Azuma has control of everyones magic through his control of Tenrou, but nowhere is it said he gets the MP. Also wouldn't make sense since he gave it all back afterwards. He wanted to test his strength against Erza's, he could've oneshot her if he really wanted.

Mira says her and Erza together might not be able to beat Jura, who then Laxus beat. Yeah, of course Gray would say that after Laxus' recent performance, because like most readers he saw Laxus do better than him and team Natsu combined. As for Erza, even with her SO, by the end of GMG she was left trashed, like she couldn't even take on dragon babies trashed.
If pantherlily was standing i would agree with you, but since he was as you put it floored, he lookes like he wont be able to fight.

The tree sucked up the mp. That mp remain there. Tera clemare released that mp. Not all of it obviously


Laxus vs hades case.
I think laxus could have done better than what he showed. But i am only comparing speed. That attack didnt have that aoe. But even if i agree with you markarov is still fast enough

Not relevant to my point. But what i got from it, 25 finished laxus. Was it the anime i am not sure, so not really cannon. But i think 25 formula takes a toll on the body. You cant move or something. Again i think laxus would have done a lot better if it wasnt a boss fight, which only natsu has a legal contract to take on
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I mean if u wanna use erza statements as facts u can’t pick and choose what fit the narrative of ur argument if u believe erza thought that Laxus wasn’t as powerful as her than u have to go beleive that she thought natsu>=erza since the beginning of the series and at that time natsu got stomp by laxus and with the help from gajeel.( roughtly natsu tier back then) 2. I don’t recall natsu saying that erza was stronger than him but natsu has said that Laxus>natsu meaning he acknowledges that he is weaker. who erza thought that natsu was on her level or maybe stronger so basically laxus>natsu>=erza now if u don’t believe that then we can go by feats which every1 knows that Laxus is superior so... and plus we saw that in the fight. in which laxus won which u @sharkai have admitted

I already have said that erza is on laxus tier but laxus is slightly stronger than erza being in the same tier doesn’t mean same level in power.
Nice try

I dont agree with erza
I always believed laxus and erza have been around each other. If laxus was stronger, it was only amount he showed right now.

Beside erza never said laxus was weaker than her. It is being implied by mishma. But still not outright cannon

And you shouldn't compare statement from start of the series to the end of the series.
Featwise laxus has never been superior
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Ugh ouch now I'm wounded, bleeding all over the place 🤕

You are just not a very nice person, aren't you :gwah
Coudl you do something for me
Can you write an outline of fairy tail. Just replace erza with laxus in team natsu.
Just some rules
1) laxus cant over power everything that will.make the story boring
2) laxus cant fight or defeat the boss
3) nakama is important

Try to think as much like mishma as possible
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Laxus was above Erza before she got SO , this is undeniable. If she was Laxus' level she would have gone to fight him directly in the battle for FT arc. Plus there's an instance where Mystogan walks inside the guild , everyone falls asleep , Erza is half asleep , and Laxus and Makarov manage to stay awake. Pretty much proves Laxus > Erza at that point.

They were about equals in attack power since Tartaros , but Laxus had much higher tankiness than her , and even now he has , considering he took Gray , Natsu's power which was in Erza's sword coupled with Erza's strength.

Natsu was in his tier in attack power since Alvarez , but Laxus still outclasses him in tankiness.

If Erza doesn't have her enchanted swords she can't do much to Laxus.

He wouldn't have oneshotted Ajeel though.

We know Laxus' attack power scales to Erza's durability. Erza's durability can be scaled via Ajeel's/Natsu's attack power , after her battle with Ajeel. Which makes Laxus' attack power roughly in Natsu's AP's tier. Natsu can't kill Ajeel with one shot AFAIK , even with his strongest move. He even had an extreme diff battle with Elfman where he apparently took a lot of hits , and now we have an accurate gauge of Elfman's power , judging by that I feel safe to say his durability is not as bad as everyone here makes it out to be.



August can be wrong. He thought Fairy Heart is some kind of artifact which makes you a god and can make you stronger than Acnologia , he was wrong. Fairy Heart is overhyped useless trash which does literally nothing. The only feat for Fairy Heart is allowing Zeref to rewind time , that's it. August thought that shit would help Zeref become stronger than Acnologia , he was wrong. FH didn't even add one inch of power to Zeref. And before you say he might've said so listening to Zeref , remember he was born out of the FH itself. He must know it's power better than Zeref.

You say he's this wise general of Alvarez , yet he could not realise Zeref didn't even need Fairy Heart or anything to wipe Acnologia's ass ? Zeref is the one who created the Eclipse gate. Zeref could've easily time travelled to the past killed Acno when he was weak. Fucking fodder Rogue could time travel freely to the past and future using the gate and the one who created the Eclipse gate cannot ? Zeref did not realise this because his mind is fucked because of the curse and he's retarded. He doesn't know what he's thinking or what he's talking most of the time. But August did not realise the obvious ? Before you say August did not suggest that because it would've erased their world , remember August was ready to erase everyone using Ars Magia.

He's the general of Alvarez , yet did not have the foresight to notice that majority of the Spriggans are inexperienced brats ? He didn't realise that the Spriggans ( especially Jacob and Brandish ) have absolutely no experience about using their magic properly in combat ? He just let those guys do whatever they want ? How did he think of starting a war like this ?

See ? August has made mistakes many times. It's not entirely out of context to assume that August made a miscalculation there. Especially when he himself thought Cana's cards could harm him. Dude does not know even his own tanking capacity. When Mashima has laid a fight in front of you himself clearly showing Laxus using his strongest move , you've got to trust the author over an in manga character. Mashima's opinion > August's opinion.
Erza couldnt fight laxus in ff arc. Particularly because she was on his level.
If laxus had won barely or lost to erza, what would natsu, the hero would have done in that arc.
 

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If pantherlily was standing i would agree with you, but since he was as you put it floored, he lookes like he wont be able to fight.

The tree sucked up the mp. That mp remain there. Tera clemare released that mp. Not all of it obviously


Laxus vs hades case.
I think laxus could have done better than what he showed. But i am only comparing speed. That attack didnt have that aoe. But even if i agree with you markarov is still fast enough

Not relevant to my point. But what i got from it, 25 finished laxus. Was it the anime i am not sure, so not really cannon. But i think 25 formula takes a toll on the body. You cant move or something. Again i think laxus would have done a lot better if it wasnt a boss fight, which only natsu has a legal contract to take on
No reason to mention it if it wasn't a factor. Mashima gave Pantherlily that specific limitation for a reason, the same with not giving him a sword straight away, he was weaker than he was in Edolas. People get floored all the time, happened like 5 times in Tenrou arc alone, proper flooring too.

Terra Clamor released some of Tenrou's power, like his explosion magic always does, but better. Unless Tenrou was literally running out of power for him to use before he sucked up FT's MP and he had to use FTs power to supplement it, there's no reason the spell would touch FT's MP, especially with his promise.

Fast enough to do what? Land a hit on Hades? No he isn't. For speed, Laxus>Hades>Makarov.

The special effects of Ameterasu is anime only. And no, what we got from the manga is that Laxus chose to give Natsu his MP because he wanted someone with the guild mark to beat Hades, it's stated clear as day.
 

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You don’t seem to be doing that good a job leading either though. Cause that’s the wrong way my friend. Allow me to show you The Way :cheez

Well let’s start here. Explain to me why I need to give you more examples when your post is riddled with them? I mean, is there a special comparison you won’t ignore? I mean Hades taught Makarov what he knows about magic, and August is the world renowned Wizard King...

Well let’s make some important distinctions to avoid time wasting time with poor examples. If Erza fights them back to back, it’s a gauntlet. If she has time to rest catch her breath, and recover her magic, it’s simply not as impressive. So why would I find her facing a series of minions over the course of an arc, as impactful as Laxus fighting Wahl, and immediately turning around to face Hades? Why would I compare them to him putting down Kyria worth minimal effort, then turning around and dethroning Erza. There was no recovery time in these battles. He hasn’t even stood back up from catching his breath when Hades Confronts him. An he doesn’t have time to walk a few paces and destroy the Orb before Erza arrives and challenges him. These are what I mean by gauntlets. Back to back combatants, no breaks.

Would Erza have been well served by Laxus stomping her? Was it not enough that he whooped Natsu and Gajeel, and only lost due to circumstances? What purpose would that have served the story?

Erza is S class. She has every right to try it if she wants. That’s literally the only requirement. This is your comparison to Gildarts? 😂😂😂🤣

The trap that ended the fight can def be called suspect, but this is only a detractor from how badly he did her. The man had a totally different magic. The darkness magic was learned, a hobby. Everything outside of his heavenly body magic is. The man is a monster. Not sure how you missed that.

Laxus was able to take the attack and continue fighting. An her comment wasn’t reliant on just that comment, Laxus has just finished doing more damage to Hades than their entire team combined. An after granting Natsu all his magic, still tanked an attack that would have killed them (and was expected to kill him). Then came back to stop Hades rallying moment to initiate the final charge. His entire performance is why they didn’t die in there confrontation.
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Are you talking about my points showing laxus above erza, well they are all full of holes. Some are down right false. I already know of them, but i still dont agree, so unless erza is paying me to spread false info, maybe you should try to look at it from my point of view. Since i already know all of your arguments to support laxus above erza, right?


Gauntlets are not really something used in fairy tail. I think you literally are the first person to use um.
Beside how would you know how much time had pass, how much.magic recovered. The result from these comparisons will be sketchy. You can say they are not 100% or injured. We cant say anything more.

August being correct would mean laxus >>>>> jellal
And laxus >>>> natsu
And laxus >>>> erza
You cant use just one statement to fuk the entire fairy tail.

It would have served alot. Since they are literally no statement puting laxus above erza, him beating erza or jellal beating erza would have done alot. In any case erza vs jellal or erza vs laxus. There are four possibilities
1) erza wins. What would natsu do? Only he is allowed to fight the boss. Natsu has to contribute big time
2) they draw or laxus barely won. We have the same problem as point one, what would natsu do
3) they stomps erza. Erza barely leaves or just lies down. Natsu does the heavy lifting. This makes them above erza 100%.
4) fight interrupts with no known superior

Point one and two were impossible in fairy tail. 3 and 4 possible. Why did mishma choose 4. Why was he shying away from stomping erza. Erza get stomped alot, hell ikugura performed better than laxua and jellal pre ts (vs erza ).
Point four is also backed by the fact that no one in fairy tail ever have said that laxus is on a different level comparef to erza or even stronger than erza

You know markrov offered that to erza after gildarts failed. Did he really want erza to die

Again why do you compare wrecked erza to a full fresh laxus? Is this the best you got
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No reason to mention it if it wasn't a factor. Mashima gave Pantherlily that specific limitation for a reason, the same with not giving him a sword straight away, he was weaker than he was in Edolas. People get floored all the time, happened like 5 times in Tenrou arc alone, proper flooring too.

Terra Clamor released some of Tenrou's power, like his explosion magic always does, but better. Unless Tenrou was literally running out of power for him to use before he sucked up FT's MP and he had to use FTs power to supplement it, there's no reason the spell would touch FT's MP, especially with his promise.

Fast enough to do what? Land a hit on Hades? No he isn't. For speed, Laxus>Hades>Makarov.

The special effects of Ameterasu is anime only. And no, what we got from the manga is that Laxus chose to give Natsu his MP because he wanted someone with the guild mark to beat Hades, it's stated clear as day.
Pantherlily also faught gajeel after gajeel broke his sword. Took roar the face too
Here he was enhanced. Ofcourse he would want any kind of advantage,.because azuma was on a whole different level than pantherlily or gajeel.

But it did, that why erza saw fairy tail.in that attack :teehee

He wasnt landing hit. He was busy block a serious hades. Laxus was attacking while hades just looked on.
At max i will say
Laxus speed >=markarov speed
But tenrou erza speed > markrov speed


My i ask why did laxus decide to bow to hades as well :-_-
 

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Are you talking about my points showing laxus above erza, well they are all full of holes. Some are down right false. I already know of them, but i still dont agree, so unless erza is paying me to spread false info, maybe you should try to look at it from my point of view. Since i already know all of your arguments to support laxus above erza, right?


Gauntlets are not really something used in fairy tail. I think you literally are the first person to use um.
Beside how would you know how much time had pass, how much.magic recovered. The result from these comparisons will be sketchy. You can say they are not 100% or injured. We cant say anything more.

August being correct would mean laxus >>>>> jellal
And laxus >>>> natsu
And laxus >>>> erza
You cant use just one statement to fuk the entire fairy tail.

It would have served alot. Since they are literally no statement puting laxus above erza, him beating erza or jellal beating erza would have done alot. In any case erza vs jellal or erza vs laxus. There are four possibilities
1) erza wins. What would natsu do? Only he is allowed to fight the boss. Natsu has to contribute big time
2) they draw or laxus barely won. We have the same problem as point one, what would natsu do
3) they stomps erza. Erza barely leaves or just lies down. Natsu does the heavy lifting. This makes them above erza 100%.
4) fight interrupts with no known superior

Point one and two were impossible in fairy tail. 3 and 4 possible. Why did mishma choose 4. Why was he shying away from stomping erza. Erza get stomped alot, hell ikugura performed better than laxua and jellal pre ts (vs erza ).
Point four is also backed by the fact that no one in fairy tail ever have said that laxus is on a different level comparef to erza or even stronger than erza

You know markrov offered that to erza after gildarts failed. Did he really want erza to die

Again why do you compare wrecked erza to a full fresh laxus? Is this the best you got
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Pantherlily also faught gajeel after gajeel broke his sword. Took roar the face too
Here he was enhanced. Ofcourse he would want any kind of advantage,.because azuma was on a whole different level than pantherlily or gajeel.

But it did, that why erza saw fairy tail.in that attack :teehee

He wasnt landing hit. He was busy block a serious hades. Laxus was attacking while hades just looked on.
At max i will say
Laxus speed >=markarov speed
But tenrou erza speed > markrov speed


My i ask why did laxus decide to bow to hades as well :-_-
So? That means Gajeel's roar is weaker than Tower Burst but stronger than Bleve. Doesn't really change that Mashima set up limitations for Pantherlily, and specifically mentioned them in that fight. Even then, Laxus still did at minimum %33 better against Gajeel than Azuma did against Pantherlily.

Erza saw FT because Tenrou gave her their power. Plus feelings :3c

Laxus wasn't too busy to smack Hades multiple times. Laxus was faster than Hades, a lot faster, and Hades was faster than Makarov. As for Erza, while using a speed enchantment her and Gray together are slower than Hades, so she's prob around Makarov's speed.

Bow? Why did Erza decide to take a nap during her battle with Azuma? People get hurt in fights, it's a thing. The reason Laxus chose not to continue fighting is stated clearly in the manga, so that's the reason.
 

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Coudl you do something for me
Can you write an outline of fairy tail. Just replace erza with laxus in team natsu.
Just some rules
1) laxus cant over power everything that will.make the story boring
2) laxus cant fight or defeat the boss
3) nakama is important

Try to think as much like mishma as possible
Eh ok... but what does this has anything to do with what we are arguing right now???
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Nice try

I dont agree with erza
I always believed laxus and erza have been around each other.
well, that's on you then, isn't it???

manga shows us otherwise.
 

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Eh ok... but what does this has anything to do with what we are arguing right now???
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well, that's on you then, isn't it???

manga shows us otherwise.
Exactly he just contradicted himself
 

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I don't agree with Erza saying Natsu > Erza but I believe Erza = Laxus cause she basically says so.

:huh::confused::huh::confused::huh::confused::huh::confused:
Bro the funny part is that I didn’t think natsu surpass erza until the alavez arc(IMO) but in this current arc I believe erza>natsu
 

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Bro the funny part is that I didn’t think natsu surpass erza until the alavez arc(IMO) but in this current arc I believe erza>natsu
"power level" stuff now makes more or less sense unlike Alvarez where it was straight up plot power:yodawg
 

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Bro the funny part is that I didn’t think natsu surpass erza until the alavez arc(IMO) but in this current arc I believe erza>natsu
In Alverez, Natsu convincingly surpassed Erza, without any POF or BS. I think Natsu growing so damn strong was one of the main points of Alverez. The guy never really struggled against anyone except for Zeref.

Erza has nothing to show she's above Natsu. Hell, I think the guy is above Gildarts right now
 

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DF Natsu ,was really powerful against Zeref
But we know very well that the balance of power was very bad at that time.

Is this permanent or not? we do not know
Because the sequel is now different in the balance of power

Also against mard geer , this power did not defeat him.
It is impossible for me to believe that after only one year of training, this power has surpassed everyone.

Then he became a superhero and destroyed a person with infinite power with one attack

Sorry, but that's absolute nonsense, too

Where did Natsu bring this great magical power?

In the sequel Natsu used most of his magical power against Gajeel only..

Even Irene who lived 400 years (her magical power is supposed to be much greater)
Or until August (He has great magical power from the day of his birth)
It is impossible for them to destroy Zeref in this way

But Natsu did everything in one year
Yes, absurd logic

In terms of magical power, I have not seen any development in Natsu
Only everyone is against him one shot
 
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Are you talking about my points showing laxus above erza, well they are all full of holes. Some are down right false. I already know of them, but i still dont agree, so unless erza is paying me to spread false info, maybe you should try to look at it from my point of view. Since i already know all of your arguments to support laxus above erza, right?


Gauntlets are not really something used in fairy tail. I think you literally are the first person to use um.
Beside how would you know how much time had pass, how much.magic recovered. The result from these comparisons will be sketchy. You can say they are not 100% or injured. We cant say anything more.

August being correct would mean laxus >>>>> jellal
And laxus >>>> natsu
And laxus >>>> erza
You cant use just one statement to fuk the entire fairy tail.

It would have served alot. Since they are literally no statement puting laxus above erza, him beating erza or jellal beating erza would have done alot. In any case erza vs jellal or erza vs laxus. There are four possibilities
1) erza wins. What would natsu do? Only he is allowed to fight the boss. Natsu has to contribute big time
2) they draw or laxus barely won. We have the same problem as point one, what would natsu do
3) they stomps erza. Erza barely leaves or just lies down. Natsu does the heavy lifting. This makes them above erza 100%.
4) fight interrupts with no known superior

Point one and two were impossible in fairy tail. 3 and 4 possible. Why did mishma choose 4. Why was he shying away from stomping erza. Erza get stomped alot, hell ikugura performed better than laxua and jellal pre ts (vs erza ).
Point four is also backed by the fact that no one in fairy tail ever have said that laxus is on a different level comparef to erza or even stronger than erza

You know markrov offered that to erza after gildarts failed. Did he really want erza to die

Again why do you compare wrecked erza to a full fresh laxus? Is this the best you got
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No problem.

I’m trying to look at it that way, but it simply requires I ignore too much of the story. An I have trouble getting past that requirement, but I have no problem running back through them.

Gauntlets were used in the last two arcs of FT. If I’m the first person to make the argument to you, it might be time to start debating a new group of 5 Laxus fans. Cause the fact we see Laxus go directly from his battle with Wahl into the confrontation with Hades is a big deal, and goes a long way towards showing how much magic he had left. Nice argument with the amount of time, but being as we know all the other fights were happening concurrently until they confronted Neinhart, it tracks perfectly. An this arc left no questions to be asked, he literally turn around and walks over to the orb to be immediately confronted. Which isn’t comparable to an arc of fighting, followed by rest and moving around and recovering MP before the next battle.

Laxus is more powerful than Jellal, Natsu, and Erza. Not that many > but he is stronger sooo don’t see how that’s an issue. I mean he literally just beat an opponent Erza was struggling with repeatedly, with no diff. Then turned around and beat Erza too. An the only consolation is that it drained him of magic to do it back to back. Natsu needs his DF to close the gap, and Jellal is less powerful but far more versatile and faster.

If we ignore the direct comparisons to Gildarts throughout the series. An the direct comparison made to Jura during the GMG. Remember, where Makarov said he was a worthy opponent for Gildarts. Then Mira said she and Erza together couldn’t take him. I remember, it’s right in there before he loses to Laxus.

There’s a 5th possibility. Laxus or Jellal takes the victory with power to spare, so hold off on the fight until it makes sense that Erza can close the gap. An do it in a way that shows the gap still exists but makes Erza look good. Like have Laxus beat someone else first then have him beat her. So she gets a form of victory.


So again your only hope for a comparison putting her on that tier is her being allowed to do an S ranked quest as an S ranked mage. Gotta say bro, that’s feels beyond reaching.

I’m comparing them throughout. An she always came up short. An now they’ve finally fought and she came up short again bro.
 

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He withstood Acnologia. 🤔 I can see him winning but it would take a miraculous POF to one-shot Laxus.
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Erza is definitely getting up first. She got up first in Alvarez as well. An sadly Laxus isn’t getting another fight this arc. That’s why I’ve shifted focus to how well Jellal and Mira are going to perform. Elfman and Cana as well. I’m not even worried about the other main members at this point. I know they’ll get satisfactory moments. I’m hoping we continue to upgrade the guild as a whole.
Natsu handled Acno better than Laxus
 

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Natsu handled Acno better than Laxus
You mean after he got every bodies magic? Yes. Cause otherwise Natsu couldn’t even land a hit on him beforehand.
 
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