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They were hyped to be his level by Elfseria and Ignia says they surpassed him. Are they stronger? No. Are they comparable to him pre-RoT? Yes
Which I mean, they probably didn't state Time-Rift Form though of Acnologia, not his power before that. So technically they not on his level like that. Though even so how they went down make more sense than BS we need like in main series with no explanation as finding weaknesses and strategy to take them out is better than somehow able to overpower them through sheer brute power especially in solo fight (Though Natsu seems like he be that with Ignia in future fight, but could be team up on too. Just hope there be explanation that make sense on how to take him).
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They are equal to him that's what Mashima told. Seriously where did I say they were stronger than Acnologia. I suggest you read before you write.
Thought not Time-Rift Acnologia who is stronger than his last state which never implied or stated along took a lot of work to take him down. Idk how much stronger DG are, but Idk if it's to that state of equal with him.
 

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Who cares. Manga did say he was cursed by Ankerseram that's all that matter.
5th time, where's prove? :smile-big


So why don't you post something that doesn't involve God Ankeseram and something that shows Zeref actually learned his curse. If he learned his curse he wouldn't have said God Ankheseram cursed him. Instead, you write fanfics that even Mashima himself hasn't wrote.
silly troll. really.

Zeref NEVER learnt this curse. Zeref learnt Life and Death magic. Which was called as "forbidden".

As result of his learning (abuse Life and Death magic) with addition of his mentally state as its trigger, he got that he got.
It's easy suggest that its mechanics same with process of turning DS into dragons.
The same can be said for how can you be unwise and ignore what manga says. It says Zeref was cursed by God Ankeseram because he made the decision who dies and lies which is him trying to revive his brother.
6th time, where is prove ?
Or it's manga in your imagination?:smile-big

It's completely different. Don't bother bringing DS magic here which absolutely has no connection to Zeref's situation..
ho? and on what you base it?

Only reason Mavis was cursed because she made a choice between who lives and die and got cursed for that. Lol, Zeref even said that during her talk with Mavis. So why don't take your own advice and :rtfm instead of making things that don't exist in the story? :smile-big

pages 6 and 7 - "that happened was the consequence of using incomplete version of grand magic. Mavis's body will no longer grow or mature anymore"

In contrast with you, i'm able to link on things about which I said.
 

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Ok but for real, Homies you still trying to comprehend Mashima in FT :yodawg All these theories of whether hax works or not, the binary fission in Etherion, PoF mutipliers, FS, Dragon slayer magic effectiveness, curse origins, character statements, etc...

Just turn your brain off and go with the flow :hi
 

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Acno was hard to beat because he's just too strong.

Good example (1:13-2:20)

So you’re saying he’s immunity means nothing
What does a clip from bleach have to do with fairy tail
I watched the speech as well
 
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5th time, where's prove? :smile-big
Where's your proof of Zeref learning life and death was what made him get the curse. :smile-big

ho? and on what you base it?
Because there is absolutely no connection between the two magics other you trying to make something out of it.

6th time, where is prove ?
Or it's manga in your imagination?:smile-big
Why don't go watch that video you just posted. Zeref literally says he was cursed by God. If Mashima wanted says Zeref learning life and death was what caused the Curse, he wouldn't have included Ankeseram in it so for 6th time where does it say that Zeref learning life and death magic made automatically get a curse or I forgot it's in the manga panel which only exists in your imagination.

In contrast with you, i'm able to link on things about which I said.
She was cursed because she cast an incomplete version of Law and made her choice of who lives and dies on her own accord. I don't have any official translations but,
https://www.mangareader.net/fairy-tail/449/16
 

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So you’re saying he’s immunity means nothing
No, It means he was named as Dragon King not for reason he's "Arcane dragon" (one who can consume every type of magic), but because he's so strong in all matters of power for others.

Magic immunity is terrible thing, but he's Ancologia not only because it, but because he is he.

Gin Ichimaru stated perfect monologue about Aizen and KS, and it's perfectly suits Acno case.
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Someone else may have "terrible" magic or curse as well. But they still won't be like Acnologia.

For example DiMaria or Mary from Avatar.
 

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No, It means he was named as Dragon King not for reason he's "Arcane dragon" (one who can consume every type of magic), but because he's so strong in all matters of power for others.

Magic immunity is terrible thing, but he's Ancologia not only because it, but because he is he.

Gin Ichimaru stated perfect monologue about Aizen and KS, and it's perfectly suits Acno case.
I say him being immune to magic was one of the reasons he was hard to beat not the only reason. (Of course he became immune when he took the dragons power when he bathed in their blood)
 

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Where's your proof of Zeref learning life and death was what made him get the curse. :smile-big

Because there is absolutely no connection between the two magics other you trying to make something out of it.

Why don't go watch that video you just posted. Zeref literally says he was cursed by God. If Mashima wanted says Zeref learning life and death was what caused the Curse, he wouldn't have included Ankeseram in it so for 6th time where does it say that Zeref learning life and death magic made automatically get a curse or I forgot it's in the manga panel which only exists in your imagination.

She was cursed because she cast an incomplete version of Law and made her choice of who lives and dies on her own accord. I don't have any official translations but,
https://www.mangareader.net/fairy-tail/449/16
1. If you re-read "discussion", you may (or may not) notice, I said that issue "Did God Ankseram ever existed or not" is open question. Because Mashima never said one or another. And every speculation could be made.

You started "Mashima said..!!" etc. So you clearly said "character God Ankseram exists" as canon.
So I demand prove. You still did not link it (after I demanded it 6 times) :rtfm

2. I also may say Ankseram cursed me so I'm wasting my time on you. Still it does not make Ankseram as real thing.

3. Nah, I'm not one who will bully for "unofficial translation".
Law as spell demands to make that choice, because spell need know which guys its caster consider as enemies.

Still we don't see any "God Ankseram" when Mavis used incomplete Law on dragon-Yuri (after it she got curse).
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I say him being immune to magic was one of the reasons he was hard to beat not the only reason. (Of course he became immune when he took the dragons power when he bathed in their blood)
It's one, but actually not the main reason.

I repeat I said before:

Someone else may have "terrible" magic or curse as well. But they still won't be like Acnologia.

For example DiMaria or Mary from Avatar.
 

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1. If you re-read "discussion", you may (or may not) notice, I said that issue "Did God Ankseram ever existed or not" is open question. Because Mashima never said one or another. And every speculation could be made.

You started "Mashima said..!!" etc. So you clearly said "character God Ankseram exists" as canon.
So I demand prove. You still did not link it (after I demanded it 6 times) :rtfm

2. I also may say Ankseram cursed me so I'm wasting my time on you. Still it does not make Ankseram as real thing.

3. Nah, I'm not one who will bully for "unofficial translation".
Law as spell demands to make that choice, because spell need know which guys its caster consider as enemies.

Still we don't see any "God Ankseram" when Mavis used incomplete Law on dragon-Yuri (after it she got curse).
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It's one, but actually not the main reason.

I repeat I said before:

Someone else may have "terrible" magic or curse as well. But they still won't be like Acnologia.

For example DiMaria or Mary from Avatar.
They make big deal out of it in the manga
 

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They make big deal out of it in the manga
Yeah, because he has also enormous raw physical strength, durability, agility, speed (* I hope someone won't come and say he wasn't able to catch Christine :smile-big)

Complex of all stats makes him Acnologia, So what's why others like DG are not his league ("Acno level").

Vice versa 2 "Acno level" should easily kill Acno ("one Acno level") with their physical force (their claws and fangs). But as we know in FT Rogue timeline - Acno conquer entire world and rules over it.
 

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Yeah, because he has also enormous raw physical strength, durability, agility, speed (* I hope someone won't come and say he wasn't able to catch Christine :smile-big)

Complex of all stats makes him Acnologia, So what's why others like DG are not his league ("Acno level").

Vice versa 2 "Acno level" should easily kill Acno ("one Acno level") with their physical force (their claws and fangs). But as we know in FT Rogue timeline - Acno conquer entire world and rules over it.
If it's just those things you listed why did they talk about magic not working on him

You could have two mages at the same level with one having an advantage because of the type of magic they use
 

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If it's just those things you listed why did they talk about magic not working on him

You could have two mages at the same level with one having an advantage because of the type of magic they use
hm? Don't get what you mean here, actually.

They said we're all mages, and magic won't work on him. It's checkmate for them.
Also they said "If we could have holy sword...".

But Erza denied it, 'coz "swords won't deal [essential] damage on him". [His scales is just too tough]
So, even w.o. physical immunity, kill him with regular physical damage is impossible. It's like try hit tank with onion..
 

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Aldoron knew of Ankhseram's curse. But he didn't know Zeref had it and was taken by surprise when it triggered. That at least tells us that the knowledge of Ankhseram's curse extended beyond Zeref's town to the dragons.

As for me, I do not agree with the case that the seal did not affect acno's power

Tenroujima team.... the water dragon.....Aldron ...

Their strength froze after the sealing
What makes acno different !!!! ????

Actually I want evidence that he's not affected
Acnologia's power was affected by Fairy Heart. He couldn't move. The spell he was trying to cast at Natsu seemed to vanish too, so maybe it sealed his MP too. It doesn't change the fact that what made his body blow up was attributed to the dragon slayers beating him inside the rift.

The god dragons didn't get their power sealed. Mercphobia simply had his MP burned out, and Aldoron just died.
 
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Mr. @Axiomus , I heard you said "Natsu shattered Acno with rainbow flame and it was just Natsu power".
Can you be so good and comment it ?

Does it really what you meant or someone just misunderstand your words?
 

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hm? Don't get what you mean here, actually.

They said we're all mages, and magic won't work on him. It's checkmate for them.
Also they said "If we could have holy sword...".

But Erza denied it, 'coz "swords won't deal [essential] damage on him". [His scales is just too tough]
So, even w.o. physical immunity, kill him with regular physical damage is impossible. It's like try hit tank with onion..
They were talking about since magic won't work on him they wandered if physical objects will but it won't because of his size.
You said impossible what about human acnologia
 

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They were talking about since magic won't work on him they wandered if physical objects will but it won't because of his size.
Not only size, Actually to hit big size object is far more easy then small. It's about durability, They just don't have enough physical attack (like /for example/ Igneel had).


You said impossible what about human acnologia
Can you re-phrase ? I don't understand that you mean here.
 

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. It doesn't change the fact that what made his body blow up was attributed to the dragon slayers beating him inside the rift.

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I know this
I'm talking about his power, which was affected by the seal. ( i think.....We agree on this)

This is the main reason for his defeat against 7ds
His attack disappeared as you said


The god dragons didn't get their power sealed. Mercphobia simply had his MP burned out, and Aldoron just died.


1- merc became an ordinary person without magic power .... How is that if not because of the seal.....
2 Aldron sealed himself through crystals as we know
His power was also sealed
that is my point


Seal = no power
A good example of this is what happened in Tenroujima
 

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. If you re-read "discussion", you may (or may not) notice, I said that issue "Did God Ankseram ever existed or not" is open question. Because Mashima never said one or another. And every speculation could be made.

You started "Mashima said..!!" etc. So you clearly said "character God Ankseram exists" as canon.
So I demand prove. You still did not link it (after I demanded it 6 times) :rtfm

2. I also may say Ankseram cursed me so I'm wasting my time on you. Still it does not make Ankseram as real thing.

3. Nah, I'm not one who will bully for "unofficial translation".
Law as spell demands to make that choice, because spell need know which guys its caster consider as enemies.
He should exist in FT lore. This is fiction written by Mashima, not real-world stuff. Why does he even bother saying Zeref was cursed by God Ankheseram if he doesn't exist. Mashima is not out of his mind. If Zeref's situation is similar to DS Mashima would have said so. You never said "Did God Ankseram ever existed or not" is an open question. I said Zeref power comes from God and you started asking where is the proof? while trying to prove how your logic is written while calling my fanfics. So when I asked you for proof. You just posted some panel which Zeref explaining why he was cursed by Ankeseram. You were hell-bent on proving your little fanfic is right while dissing mine and calling it my imagination. Now you are talking about some different approaches.

Don't care about your second point. Don't bring fiction to the real world.

Fairy law is a different version of the law right. I don't have real proof so will concede on this point.

Lastly, you have been trash-talking Aldoron saying he couldn't kill one Gajeel but when I said Acno couldn't kill Gajeel. You just say bring your favorite plot ass argument. Acnologia himself couldn't kill Gajeel but funny how you expect Aldoron to kill Gajeel who is part of FT cast. Alodron might have been disappointing true but then again Acnologia himself was a massive disappointment.

You have been calling dragon eaters are trash while failing the most of the filth 12 were equally trash as well. Ajeel was trashed by Elfman and Lissana of all people or oh yeah Ajeel was fresh before his fight began. So he is equally as trash as Madmole. As for Skullion, he couldn't down Mirajane just like Jacob. He might have eyes closed but Mira wasn't even using base satan soul for some part of the fight. So if he can't down a tired exhausted woman don't know what to expect of him. Then that can't remember trash's name who when buffed by Irene went down to some punch which Natsu use to trash common garbage.

These Trash 12 was pulled by Mashima out of nowhere. They are no different from DE and DG. This so-called force was literally non-existent till the end of Tartoros. Ballam Alliance was at least mentioned before they actually showed up. No name Irene somehow conveniently became the mother of all dragons and called herself the queen of dragons herself when for most of the series she was non-existent when she had such titles. Acno not being able to recognize she was a DS just proves how much of incompetent loser he is.
 

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Not only size, Actually to hit big size object is far more easy then small. It's about durability, They just don't have enough physical attack (like /for example/ Igneel had).




Can you re-phrase ? I don't understand that you mean here.
What I mean is physically Acnologia human form isn’t going to be as strong as his dragon form (which is what the characters in the panel were mostly talking about)
 

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