Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Axiomus]

So if Natsu used his new secret art on Aldo's face instead of the Brain Seed, would big Aldo survive?

That's actually a good question. The god seed functions as the brain, so maybe he can survive a big hole in his head.

 

[grey matter]

So if Natsu used his new secret art on Aldo's face instead of the Brain Seed, would big Aldo survive?

Full power Aldo dragon will just tank it.

The Aldo dragon with only Aldo seed around? I'm not sure about this. Was Natsu able to blow a hole through dragon Aldo only because Aldo seed was getting rekt, or would Natsu have blew a hole through him regardless?
If you think it's the former, then no. Or else, yea that attack would kill Aldo dragon.

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That's actually a good question. The god seed functions as the brain, so maybe he can survive a big hole in his head.

I think they're both connected. If his head is destroyed, probably Aldo seed will go down as well.

 

[Ramen]

@kianp67 Where you been man

 

[gk3389127]

I wonder where the CSK sits in the power hierarchy. We only really see him in action once, when he takes down Alegria, and (for a time) incapacitates Mard Geer, so he's clearly strong, but compared to other characters, I wonder by how much.

 

[Ramen]

I wonder where the CSK sits in the power hierarchy. We only really see him in action once, when he takes down Alegria, and (for a time) incapacitates Mard Geer, so he's clearly strong, but compared to other characters, I wonder by how much.

MG level.

 

[Dimitri1220]

I wonder where the CSK sits in the power hierarchy. We only really see him in action once, when he takes down Alegria, and (for a time) incapacitates Mard Geer, so he's clearly strong, but compared to other characters, I wonder by how much.

Full power CSK imo is high Spriggan tier or even Zeref level. He's the ruler of an entire world, is immortal, and has insane regen. Even the one that a weakened Tartaros Lucy summoned was strong af but was just slow.

 

[kian]

@kianp67 Where you been man

been busy with school stuff

I try to make the effort to come and like some replies though. Hopefully i’ll make the time when mira-god returns

 

[Ratrace]

been busy with school stuff

I try to make the effort to come and like some replies though. Hopefully i’ll make the time when mira-god returns

Hopefully we'll see something good from her soon

 

[GL_Nova]

Bro.....just stop. Laxus is not August tier.

Stop for what? You disagree? So what. I don’t post my opinion to change yours, I post it because I like talking about FT lol. This is the current debate, and facts are as such: Gildarts pushed August to suicide, with 1 blow. It’s the only spell he cast that connected.

Laxus has been trailing Gildarts tier since Tenrou. He’s had a years growth, and has a new form. If anything, saying he’s only as strong as Alvarez Gildarts is lowballing him.

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August manhandled a bloodlusted Gildarts while talking about his daddy issues. There are no equal lmao.

Where did I say they are equal? Since when are tiers monoliths? For example if you can destroy 1 country then your tank is spent, and I can destroy 4 or 5 before my reserves run dry. We’re both country lvl threats, but we aren’t the same lvl threat now are we. Gildarts wasn’t manhandled in any respect. An that enraged Gildarts put him on his ass when figured out his hax. August was surely stronger, but Gildarts and Irene were both inarguably on his tier. The same way he inarguably had the best hax of the 3.

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Running an experiment on reddit. Let's see how this goes. I pose the same question to you guys. How many of Natsu's new secret art can Laxus and Erza take?

What did they do to you?

 

[Ramen]

Stop for what? You disagree? So what. I don’t post my opinion to change yours, I post it because I like talking about FT lol. This is the current debate, and facts are as such: Gildarts pushed August to suicide, with 1 blow. It’s the only spell he cast that connected.

Laxus has been trailing Gildarts tier since Tenrou. He’s had a years growth, and has a new form. If anything, saying he’s only as strong as Alvarez Gildarts is lowballing him.

If by debate you mean you vs everyone....then sure. Gildarts isn't August tier. You're slow if you think so since guess what.....CiS is a thing which you refuse to acknowledge. Those are the facts.

August makes Laxus' magic useless and beats him down with Crush.

Unless you think Laxus is tiers above Alvarez Gildarts then.....lol.

 

[Axiomus]

What did they do to you?

Apparently I overrate Natsu for believing that he can beat Laxus and Erza with a punch that killed Aldoron.

Apparently, since Wendy did more damage to Zirconis than Mira, that means anyone with dragon slaying magic will do more damage to a god dragon than to Erza. Erza and Laxus should be able to tank 2~3 of Natsu's secret art, possibly 8 or 10 depending on plot. This is assuming DF Natsu can even use this many attacks, and Laxus/Erza doesn't just block them all. Or so I'm told.

Basically, had to argue against some Erza/Laxus wank.

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I don't really agree that August resorted to suicide either. Gildarts broke his mechanical arm, so there wasn't much that could be done after that. August showed that he could stab Gildarts with a stick, so Ars Magia wasn't necessary.

 

[Ronin31]

Gildarts broke his mechanical arm, so there wasn't much that could be done after that. August showed that he could stab Gildarts with a stick, so Ars Magia wasn't necessary.

Agree. August didn't need Ars Magna to win against Gildarts who was armless the moment his mechanical arm was destroyed, like Eileen didn't need a Meteore on Erza who was defensless. Both Gildarts and Erza were incapacited and both August and Eileen were pushed by rage emotions and wanted to kill anyone + their opponents : August because he was jealous to Gildarts and Kana's relationship and Eileen because she took Erza to be responsable for her Curse.

At the end, they both suicide because they remembered their love and prefered to suicide before killing the source of their new emotions. Erza awoke Eileen's love by her smile which remained why she couldn't kill her as a baby, and August couldn't let go his spell killing his mother who looked at him and prefered to return it against his own body.

The fight and issues are similar. Eileen and August were stronger than Erza and Gildarts, and, currently, still remains.

 

[GL_Nova]

Apparently I overrate Natsu for believing that he can beat Laxus and Erza with a punch that killed Aldoron.

Apparently, since Wendy did more damage to Zirconis than Mira, that means anyone with dragon slaying magic will do more damage to a god dragon than to Erza. Erza and Laxus should be able to tank 2~3 of Natsu's secret art, possibly 8 or 10 depending on plot. This is assuming DF Natsu can even use this many attacks, and Laxus/Erza doesn't just block them all. Or so I'm told.

Basically, had to argue against some Erza/Laxus wank.

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I don't really agree that August resorted to suicide either. Gildarts broke his mechanical arm, so there wasn't much that could be done after that. August showed that he could stab Gildarts with a stick, so Ars Magia wasn't necessary.

Whose arguing that? Like, genuinely arguing they can tank those?

He didn’t really show that he could stab him, Gildarts took the blow to save his daughter. It’s the only significant blow he lands as well. Since Gildarts was able to hard counter everything else. He reverted to AM of the idea that he still hadn’t put Gildarts down, and all the other Spriggan had fallen.

 

[Nemispelled]

Technically speaking, Ars Magia doesn't even count as a win for August either. It's a suicidal spell, just like Gray's Iced Shell or Bloodman's MBP portal that trapped Gajeel.

Sure, it was PIS that August decided to spare everyone in Fiore (because he saw Mavis), but his own fate was already sealed from the moment he activated Ars Magia.

Even if August had taken Gildartz with him, it would have only resulted in a stalemate at best, so AM alone doesn't put August above Gildartz.

So if we're saying that August needs AM to beat Gildartz, then that actually points to the fact that they are equals.

As far as I'm concerned, up until the point August resorted to using AM, neither of them were the clear victors or losers of the battle.

 

[Dimitri1220]

August pretty much came out of the rubble with no damage done to him while Gildarts couldn't even use his mechanical arm anymore, which is the only thing that gave him a chance in that fight. He only used Ars Magia due to PIS, he could've just used his fire nuke or crush. And you also have to remember that Gildarts was pissed off for half the fight after August threatened to kill Cana, yet August was casually beating him while thinking about his daddy issues. Nothing in that fight demonstrates that they're equal IMO.

 

[sharkai]

Can we revisit why we don’t think Laxus and Erza are on the same tier as August and Irene yet? I mean it’s seemed pretty solid that every time theirs a power jump they have a significant gain. Laxus has been trailing Gildarts since Tenrou. (His performance against Hades puts him solidly over Bluenote, who knew not to challenge him.) At worst you can argue they were mid Spriggan lvl during the Alvarez arc. Having reached top tier seems rather obvious now.

I dont think so
august is complicated, because he isnt a straight fighter. he is a hax user.
irene is simple. if we are asking, are current laxus or erza equally as strong as dragon irene. i really dont think so.

i am looking at it like this, can current laxus hit so hard that it will break alverzec erza sword and one shot her?
though i do see current red lightening mode laxus mid diffing alverzec laxus

 

[grey matter]

I dont think so
august is complicated, because he isnt a straight fighter. he is a hax user.
irene is simple. if we are asking, are current laxus or erza equally as strong as dragon irene. i really dont think so.

i am looking at it like this, can current laxus hit so hard that it will break alverzec erza sword and one shot her?
though i do see current red lightening mode laxus mid diffing alverzec laxus

I agree. Laxus would get no diff'd by August purely because he can't really do anything.

As for Eileen. Based on pure stats, dragon Eileen should be >> even current Laxus IMO.

But, because of slayer advantage, Laxus can one shot her if he lands a clean attack (scaling from Alverez Erza, who took out Eileen in one clean hit with DS magic). I also think Eileen can take out current Laxus in 2 clean attacks (scaling from Alverez Erza, who she took out in one clean attack).

So, current Laxus vs Eileen should be based on who knocks out the opponent faster, either way it will be a very fast match.

 

[sharkai]

I agree. Laxus would get no diff'd by August purely because he can't really do anything.

As for Eileen. Based on pure stats, dragon Eileen should be >> even current Laxus IMO.

But, because of slayer advantage, Laxus can one shot her if he lands a clean attack (scaling from Alverez Erza, who took out Eileen in one clean hit with DS magic). I also think Eileen can take out current Laxus in 2 clean attacks (scaling from Alverez Erza, who she took out in one clean attack).

So, current Laxus vs Eileen should be based on who knocks out the opponent faster, either way it will be a very fast match.

i wouldnt put it no diff. august doesnt really have much attack power to put even likes of alverzec laxus down, with hax sure, but nukes or hits, august hasnt shown anything


dont think dragon slayer advantage is that huge. (there might still be a possibility that dragons arent weak to ds magic at all)

unless ofcourse i see natsu one shotting fully transformed dragon natsu.

 

[grey matter]

i wouldnt put it no diff. august doesnt really have much attack power to put even likes of alverzec laxus down, with hax sure, but nukes or hits, august hasnt shown anything


dont think dragon slayer advantage is that huge. (there might still be a possibility that dragons arent weak to ds magic at all)

unless ofcourse i see natsu one shotting fully transformed dragon natsu.

He has plenty of strong magic that he copied. For example, the fire (DS) magic he used against Natsu was definitely city sized AOE. He has created a refraction tornado of large AOE, in fight against CS. He definitely has the attack power to knock out Laxus pretty easily.
He didn't use any in Gildarts fight, because of CIS.
He pretty much no diff'd Jellol + his entire guild. That should translate to him no diffing Laxus as well. I know you think Jellol is some fodder, but I think most people, even those who don't like Jellol, would agree that Jellol + CS are at least on Laxus level.

Yes it is. It's big enough for Erza tiers to one shot August/Eileen tiers.

Don't debate that logic to me lmao, take it up with Mashima. God slayer magic is pretty much God's magic used by humans, yet is super effective. Devil Slayer magic is just demon magic used by humans, yet super effective. It is what it is, even tho I agree that it's pretty nonsensical.

 

[sharkai]

He has plenty of strong magic that he copied. For example, the fire (DS) magic he used against Natsu was definitely city sized AOE. He has created a refraction tornado of large AOE, in fight against CS. He definitely has the attack power to knock out Laxus pretty easily.
He didn't use any in Gildarts fight, because of CIS.
He pretty much no diff'd Jellol + his entire guild. That should translate to him no diffing Laxus as well. I know you think Jellol is some fodder, but I think most people, even those who don't like Jellol, would agree that Jellol + CS are at least on Laxus level.

Yes it is. It's big enough for Erza tiers to one shot August/Eileen tiers.

Don't debate that logic to me lmao, take it up with Mashima. God slayer magic is pretty much God's magic used by humans, yet is super effective. Devil Slayer magic is just demon magic used by humans, yet super effective. It is what it is, even tho I agree that it's pretty nonsensical.

AOE doesnt mean strength. that heat based magic melt did nothing to natsu. August vs Jellal + CS was a reasonable length battle, even then jellal was up and running one or two hours later.
Maybe august has something, but as i said he doesnt have feats to back that up

you are forgetting POF. natsu with pof killed FH zeref. doubt even current gajeel can hit even near it. hell i dont even think current laxus can hit at that level. erza was amped with pof when she did it. that allowed her to overpower Eileen top tier move dues sema (which you can use to scale pof erza attack power). pof erza also blew ROT aconologia (someone stronger than aldron) across the town.

I dont need to
Dragons arent like demon and gods. demon and gods are not immune to normal magic like dragons are.
we dont even know if gildarts with august level mp can take out Zirconis (the undressing dragon).
We can i guess have three types here
1 you are immune to that magic (dragon vs normal magic)
2 you are effected by that magic (normal human vs normal magic)
3 you are weak to that magic (demon vs demon slayer magic)
dragon vs ds magic can easily fall in point 2 (i dont remember mishma saying that dragons are super weak to ds)