Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[WoWfan]

Athena > Duke > Georg/August/Irene > Signario Sister's > BDSK/Serena
Might we finally have a human stronger than August

Are we sure of that? We did not see him do anything yet

 

[Sevently]

What has you put August over the BDSK or S Sis's?

What has you put GS on BDSK lvl?

The strongest BDSK is only on the level of Gildarts, and we don't even know if we're talking about a 100% Gildarts.
August had no trouble defeating Gildarts, he would murder BDSK & the Sister's. He's the human from the verse with the higher MP & he has the most haxxed magic.

Serena was implied to be Gildarts level, We need to see more, but knowing that the BDSK arc is finished and that Serena is still in the party, Mashima will probably make him a more powerful character than the previous ones. I wouldn't even be surprised if he retcons Serena and declares him stronger than the Sisters, to finally give us a real fight against Gildarts.

Are we sure of that? We did not see him do anything yet

Athena is said to be Zeref level, which is still not the case based on feats, but she will be in the end.
Duke is featsless but if he managed to create a powerful enough weapon to hold his ground against those Dragons, he must at least be stronger than August.
And the Sister's has to be stronger than the BDSK to be revalant in the story against Fairy Tail.

 

[GL_Nova]

I thought this notion would stop once the official translation was out but I guess not. Here's what Gray actually says

That's worse lol. He compared her to Laxus or Gildarts, so Erza is still only fighting Laxus lvl opponents. Cause Laxus has been getting that comparison since Tenrou. Thank you for that.

 

[GL_Nova]

The strongest BDSK is only on the level of Gildarts, and we don't even know if we're talking about a 100% Gildarts.
August had no trouble defeating Gildarts, he would murder BDSK & the Sister's. He's the human from the verse with the higher MP & he has the most haxxed magic.

Serena was implied to be Gildarts level, We need to see more, but knowing that the BDSK arc is finished and that Serena is still in the party, Mashima will probably make him a more powerful character than the previous ones. I wouldn't even be surprised if he retcons Serena and declares him stronger than the Sisters, to finally give us a real fight against Gildarts.

Athena is said to be Zeref level, which is still not the case based on feats, but she will be in the end.
Duke is featsless but if he managed to create a powerful enough weapon to hold his ground against those Dragons, he must at least be stronger than August.
And the Sister's has to be stronger than the BDSK to be revalant in the story against Fairy Tail.

August did have trouble, that's why Gildarts is still alive and he's dead from a suicide spell. Gildarts is an absolute monster. This is Gildarts from a year later, and with a years growth, we kow he was just recently at the guild because we saw Natsu sitting with him before they departed. Gildarts was literally able to power through everything August threw at him and work out his weakness. These guys are slayers, so their durability is superior. An August bowed out from facing an Acno lvl character, Suzaku did better than Irene did against Acno. An Irene struggled with Haku. i wouldn't stick to this argument too close.

Serena stated that he was superior to Gildarts, but i'm not willing to go that far yet. Gildarts did acknowledge him, an so did August. A year ago. We know that Gildarts has grown since then. We saw him stomp Gajeel, which for now puts him at BDSK lvl if you argue it properly. So i agree it's possible. I think wait and see is best policy, but lord knows they'll be on here arguing about the entire Spriggan vs Diabolos if he does.

I aree with Athena full heartedly. I really hope we see her get there. Though depending on how many ways he can come up with, it might not pan out, because i dont see her absorbing a guild member.
Duke is featless, which is why i'm against him facing Gray, he needs the feats from facing powerhouses. So HOPEfully he'll swap out with a subordinate soon.
This is the only point of contention. I think the sisters can be same tier as them with their abilities being what set them apart. Their hax is broken as fuck and should require some real work to overcome if done right.

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And Laxus is fighting Laxus level opponents.....

Laxus still talks with respect about Gildarts strength. This was my original point in the first place. Gray is a lower tier, hence why he's comparing them to Laxus & Gildarts, they're both massive monsters to him. Laxus himself goes from confidently challenging Kirin, to making him get serious and comparing him directly to Gildarts. Cause Gildarts still feels like a monster to Laxus.

 

[Garmadooon]

Y'all should stop taking "Gildarts Laxus level" statements seriously. Neither Kirin nor Misaki are Gildarts level. If he is too strong for BDSK then he always places himself above your favorites whether it is Erza or Luxus or FDKM Natsu. The fact that he was trampled by August does not change anything because August himself solos the BDSK.

 

[Darklord#10]

Yeah I don't believe in gildarts level MP to. Jura went from being gildarts level to being absolute fodder to another gildarts level. gs solo'd jura plus four others stronger than him. ?

 

[Darklord#10]

That just means he didn't keep up with the curve. Same thing happened with Bluenote.

So he didn't train? With bluenote it wasn't that much. He got surpassed yes but it took two timeskip.

 

[WoWfan]

The strongest BDSK is only on the level of Gildarts, and we don't even know if we're talking about a 100% Gildarts.
August had no trouble defeating Gildarts, he would murder BDSK & the Sister's. He's the human from the verse with the higher MP & he has the most haxxed magic.

Serena was implied to be Gildarts level, We need to see more, but knowing that the BDSK arc is finished and that Serena is still in the party, Mashima will probably make him a more powerful character than the previous ones. I wouldn't even be surprised if he retcons Serena and declares him stronger than the Sisters, to finally give us a real fight against Gildarts.

Athena is said to be Zeref level, which is still not the case based on feats, but she will be in the end.
Duke is featsless but if he managed to create a powerful enough weapon to hold his ground against those Dragons, he must at least be stronger than August.
And the Sister's has to be stronger than the BDSK to be revalant in the story against Fairy Tail.

Fair, but being Alchemists, we don’t know where their physical stats would land until we see them get hit.

 

[Sevently]

August did have trouble, that's why Gildarts is still alive and he's dead from a suicide spell. Gildarts is an absolute monster. This is Gildarts from a year later, and with a years growth, we kow he was just recently at the guild because we saw Natsu sitting with him before they departed. Gildarts was literally able to power through everything August threw at him and work out his weakness. These guys are slayers, so their durability is superior. An August bowed out from facing an Acno lvl character, Suzaku did better than Irene did against Acno. An Irene struggled with Haku. i wouldn't stick to this argument too close.

Serena stated that he was superior to Gildarts, but i'm not willing to go that far yet. Gildarts did acknowledge him, an so did August. A year ago. We know that Gildarts has grown since then. We saw him stomp Gajeel, which for now puts him at BDSK lvl if you argue it properly. So i agree it's possible. I think wait and see is best policy, but lord knows they'll be on here arguing about the entire Spriggan vs Diabolos if he does.

I aree with Athena full heartedly. I really hope we see her get there. Though depending on how many ways he can come up with, it might not pan out, because i dont see her absorbing a guild member.
Duke is featless, which is why i'm against him facing Gray, he needs the feats from facing powerhouses. So HOPEfully he'll swap out with a subordinate soon.
This is the only point of contention. I think the sisters can be same tier as them with their abilities being what set them apart. Their hax is broken as fuck and should require some real work to overcome if done right.

Gildarts didn't do anything and couldn't do anything against August. He was outclassed in every way, whether it was in magical or physical power. Gildarts is alive because he's the good guy and August is dead because he's the bad guy. The fact that he was recently at the guild doesn't mean anything. First of all, we have no idea of his current power level, and Laxus or Natsu have never seen him at full power recently. Selene simulated her defeat to reach Georg, and Suzaku had no chance against Human Dogra, who is much weaker than Selene. The BDSK are on the same level, and Suzaku is not an exception among them. Acno is a much more complicated opponent than Selene because of his magic, the comparison is null. Especially since Eileen wasn't trying to fight him seriously, unlike Suzaku, who gave it his all.

 

[GL_Nova]

Y'all should stop taking "Gildarts Laxus level" statements seriously. Neither Kirin nor Misaki are Gildarts level. If he is too strong for BDSK then he always places himself above your favorites whether it is Erza or Luxus or FDKM Natsu. The fact that he was trampled by August does not change anything because August himself solos the BDSK.

I'm not sold that he could Solo. Especially Kirin, that coffin is the perfect answer to August hax.

 

[Darklord#10]

Gildarts didn't do anything and couldn't do anything against August. He was outclassed in every way, whether it was in magical or physical power. Gildarts is alive because he's the good guy and August is dead because he's the bad guy. The fact that he was recently at the guild doesn't mean anything. First of all, we have no idea of his current power level, and Laxus or Natsu have never seen him at full power recently. Selene simulated her defeat to reach Georg, and Suzaku had no chance against Human Dogra, who is much weaker than Selene. The BDSK are on the same level, and Suzaku is not an exception among them. Acno is a much more complicated opponent than Selene because of his magic, the comparison is null. Especially since Eileen wasn't trying to fight him seriously, unlike Suzaku, who gave it his all.

Lol suzaku and his fellow quartet got fucked real hard. From human Dg tier to being gildarts level like WTF? Did Hiro think comparing them to gildarts was impressive lmao. Lol

 

[Garmadooon]

I'm not sold that he could Solo. Especially Kirin, that coffin is the perfect answer to August hax.

August can just use Melt and shoot him. His AOE is much stronger than Kirin's coffin.

 

[GL_Nova]

Laxus and Gildarts' magic power wise have always been comparable tho. Like you said even back in Tenrou Hades stated Laxus was another person on the same level as Gildarts' (in the anime). Being "lower tier" doesn't effect how much mp you can sense and if there was a big gap between Laxus and Gildart's magic power, they wouldn't be mentioned in the same breath. The same way no one would ever say something like "this magic power feels like Brandish or Irene" there's a big gap between those two. Laxus was confident at the beginning because Kirin was using power less than his own. His confidence dropped a bit when Kirin powered up because now he was using magic power similar to his own. But there's no reason to use his own power as a benchmark since he's already fighting the guy and that wouldn't tell the reader much of anything. So he says Gildarts instead. It's the same reason Gray didn't mention Erza's name when comparing Misaki's mp even though her magic power is comparable to Laxus' and is greater than Misaki's.

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I think it's obvious to everyone that it means previous Gildarts. The next time we see Gildarts' he'll be much stronger than the last time we saw him.

Laxus was strong enough to one shot a Spriggan casually in Alvarez, did we ever see him tremble from another Spriggan? It was only the other, weaker, mages who did. It wasn't until August was actually on the offensive that their MP was an issue. An we have plenty of comments about Spriggan at large that do exactly that, include both Irene and Brandish, and Ajeel. All of them are Spriggan, so when we say Spriggan lvl we mean them. August and Irene are stated to be on a different level, but never given a special or sperate title. In 100YQ we still see Gray and Lucy reacting to Brandish magic power.

What? Laxus is confident because he just slapped his two guildmates. He doesn't know anything about Kirin. An since Kirin was on the front foot much of the fight, and was able to stop his lightinig cold with his atmospheric magic, before even using his lightning.We KNOW that it wasn't weak magic. HIs confidence dropped because he reminded him of Gildarts. Laxus has consistently been pitted against Gildarts lvl opponents, it's one of the Laxus bragging points, but all those were his tougher fights. Hades, Jura, and now Kirin. If they have said their Gildarts lvl, he has had to struggle.

Gray didn't say her because she doesn't feel the same to him. LIke how they all mentioned how it was a shoe in because Laxus was there like they haven't had her allong the entire time.

 

[Dimitri1220]

Why is there a debate about something that is so clearly set in stone in the manga? The BDSKs are Gildarts level and that means Erza and Laxus have surpassed Gildarts. There is absolutely no other way to understand this without contradicting everything we’ve seen and shown.

Although we all know Gildarts will reappear more powerful than he was when they last saw him, those 2 are currently stronger than Gildarts was in chapter 1 of the sequel.

 

[Darklord#10]

It's just that it's annoying to see people using BDSK and freaking Selene to downplay August and Irene. Neither Current Laxus nor Current Erza are on their level, especially when they get pissed off by freaking Kyria hax.

I'm sure nobody thinks ddsk are stronger than august or Eileen especially when the strongest and the "supposedly" second strongest are as strong as gildarts who got beat up by august.

 

[Darklord#10]

Gildarts didn't do anything and couldn't do anything against August. He was outclassed in every way, whether it was in magical or physical power. Gildarts is alive because he's the good guy and August is dead because he's the bad guy. The fact that he was recently at the guild doesn't mean anything. First of all, we have no idea of his current power level, and Laxus or Natsu have never seen him at full power recently. Selene simulated her defeat to reach Georg, and Suzaku had no chance against Human Dogra, who is much weaker than Selene. The BDSK are on the same level, and Suzaku is not an exception among them. Acno is a much more complicated opponent than Selene because of his magic, the comparison is null. Especially since Eileen wasn't trying to fight him seriously, unlike Suzaku, who gave it his all.

Do you think kirin and misaki are as strong as gildarts, I mean current gildarts?

 

[Garmadooon]

I'm sure nobody thinks ddsk are stronger than august or Eileen especially when the strongest and the "supposedly" second strongest are as strong as gildarts who got beat up by august.

Ok but can you explain to me why Natsu is still considered weaker than Erza or Gildarts when he tied against Zeref who should be above Irene and August? All that to say that BDSK shouldn't be good material for scaling.

 

[Darklord#10]

Ok but can you explain to me why Natsu is still considered weaker than Erza or Gildarts when he tied against Zeref who should be above Irene and August? All that to say that BDSK shouldn't be good material for scaling.

Because it's fairy tail. Feats do not dictate the overall strengths of characters. Just like how shitsaki has poor feats compared to suzaku she's probably stronger than he his

 

[WoWfan]

It's just that it's annoying to see people using BDSK and freaking Selene to downplay August and Irene. Neither Current Laxus nor Current Erza are on their level, especially when they get pissed off by freaking Kyria hax.

also with how Selene said that with Irene’s power that was too strong for Wendy’s body to handle.

 

[Sevently]

Do you think kirin and misaki are as strong as gildarts, I mean current gildarts?

Absolutely not, at best they are at the level of x792 Gildarts.