Chapter Fairy Tail Spin-offs

[Cat Sidhe26]

Berserk is Hiro's favorite manga (weird) maybe such a change of pace is why Alvarez was so bad. He wanted to do something the complete opposite of what he wanted.

HxH atleast during the chimera ant arc is honestly just as dark as berserk.

I don't know.

I think the reason why the pace of Alvarez arc was so bad was more of the reason to do with the fact Hiro wanted to finish drawing Fairy Tail 3 years ago but forced by his editor to milk the series to resolve certain plot points. Also I was wondering why the quotes were so weird did someone do something for it to get like this.

 

[Gut's is the man]

I think the reason why the pace of Alvarez arc was so bad was more of the reason to do with the fact Hiro wanted to finish drawing Fairy Tail 3 years ago but forced by his editor to milk the series to resolve certain plot points. Also I was wondering why the quotes were so weird did someone do something for it to get like this.

that would explain why Alvarez just came out of nowhere, all the dangling plot threads and every other issue. (though I still don't know why then that mashima would fight so hard for the spriggan 12 to be 12 and not 6 like his editor wanted. Especially since mashima never revealed the secret reason for why it had to be 12.)

 

[Cat Sidhe26]

that would explain why Alvarez just came out of nowhere, all the dangling plot threads and every other issue. (though I still don't know why then that mashima would fight so hard for the spriggan 12 to be 12 and not 6 like his editor wanted. Especially since mashima never revealed the secret reason for why it had to be 12.)

Well Hiro did say he wanted to draw something new 3 years ago but that doesn’t excuse Hiro for lettting the last arc gettting bad as it did. Yeah the thing I can think of why there are 12 spriggans is because they represent they 12 hours in a clock since Zeref’s plan has to do with time.

 

[Gut's is the man]

Well Hiro did say he wanted to draw something new 3 years ago but that doesn’t excuse Hiro for lettting the last arc gettting bad as it did. Yeah the thing I can think of why there are 12 spriggans is because they represent they 12 hours in a clock since Zeref’s plan has to do with time.

to be fair given the kind of work schedule necessary for a mangaka and how mashima would likely want to save his creativity and good idea's for his next series and how he wanted to end the series a while ago. I'd say the editor were the one's who jumped the shark.

 

[Cat Sidhe26]

to be fair given the kind of work schedule necessary for a mangaka and how mashima would likely want to save his creativity and good idea's for his next series and how he wanted to end the series a while ago. I'd say the editor were the one's who jumped the shark.

I guess that's fair enough seeing that work schedule for a mangaka can be a living hell for them and I guess Hiro saving best ideas for his new series might make want to make read Hiro's new series. Also on a side note what's your thoughts on the 100 Year Quest and what do you think the 100 Year Quest is?

 

[strikefreedom]

Even if mashima wanted to draw something else, it's not an excuse for him or his publisher or the magazine, to speed up the last Arc.

Shorten the penultimate, yes but the last no in any case you do not have to shorten or accelerate the last Arc.

Because it is the last one that is supposed to close your story, it can be smaller than others but not zapping things from the plot.

Besides, whatever the manga, the last Arc should be the longest, to be on good all meters, all set level intrigue and everything.

 

[Arjuna]

Berserk is Hiro's favorite manga (weird) maybe such a change of pace is why Alvarez was so bad. He wanted to do something the complete opposite of what he wanted.

HxH atleast during the chimera ant arc is honestly just as dark as berserk.

I don't know.

If he writes an arc like Chimera Ant i will jump in joy.




Only Tartaros had the atmosphere of H x H.I wish he writes a masterpiece like Chimera ant

 

[Gut's is the man]

I guess that's fair enough seeing that work schedule for a mangaka can be a living hell for them and I guess Hiro saving best ideas for his new series might make want to make read Hiro's new series. Also on a side note what's your thoughts on the 100 Year Quest and what do you think the 100 Year Quest is?

Though the mangaka trouble thing is something that never bothered mashima based on interviews. (never had trouble sleeping, always handed in the drafts on time.
considering it all has to do with Mount Sonia it's probably all about Acnologia backstory, the battle of those two angels and who they were fighting over and some other stuff mashima'll pull out of his ass.

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If he writes an arc like Chimera Ant i will jump in joy.




Only Tartaros had the atmosphere of H x H.I wish he writes a masterpiece like Chimera ant

it'll be difficult. (as munch as it was a pain. A major reason for the high quality of writting was the time Togashi had thanks to his near endless hiatuses to make it so good story wise.)

if his next series is on average Tartaros level. I will never bad mouth FT again just because of my love for his next series.

 

[strikefreedom]

mashima never had a problem for the job, he manages his time perfectly.

He even gives himself the luxury of making special chapters, drawings on twiter, weeks with 2-3 chapters, when he made FT zero (which was 30 pages) at the same time as the chapter of the week is 50 pages in all .

And the drawing is perfect, in every chapter.

That's why for the key of the starry sky and the spirits eclipses or also the 2nd fight laxus vs tempesta, rusty vs OS;

Its been said that mashima did not have "" time "" to put in the manga while we guess that seen how mashima manages his time, it is actually his publisher or the magazine that says "" NO "".

 

[Arjuna]

mashima never had a problem for the job, he manages his time perfectly.

He even gives himself the luxury of making special chapters, drawings on twiter, weeks with 2-3 chapters, when he made FT zero (which was 30 pages) at the same time as the chapter of the week is 50 pages in all .

And the drawing is perfect, in every chapter.

That's why for the key of the starry sky and the spirits eclipses or also the 2nd fight laxus vs tempesta, rusty vs OS;

Its been said that mashima did not have "" time "" to put in the manga while we guess that seen how mashima manages his time, it is actually his publisher or the magazine that says "" NO "".

I personally felt Hiro rushed for the last 30 chapters or so whatever may be the reason.The way END plot was done(it appeared suddenly and disappeared suddenly),Zeref being defeated in an anticlimactic way,Acnologia's final battle everything hints at rushing.

 

[Gut's is the man]

I personally felt Hiro rushed for the last 30 chapters or so whatever may be the reason.The way END plot was done(it appeared suddenly and disappeared suddenly),Zeref being defeated in an anticlimactic way,Acnologia's final battle everything hints at rushing.

He really wanted to a get time off and prepare for his next series.

 

[strikefreedom]

I personally felt Hiro rushed for the last 30 chapters or so whatever may be the reason.The way END plot was done(it appeared suddenly and disappeared suddenly),Zeref being defeated in an anticlimactic way,Acnologia's final battle everything hints at rushing.

That's true, but the same is probably the magazine that told him to finish as soon as possible.

The reason is that the manga is 11 years old, it's a strange date to finish a manga.

Usually it's 5, 10, 12, 15, 20 when a manga is over, I do not remember having seen 11 years.

Even if mashima had said we were coming to the end, he also said that there was still a lot to do and say about FT.

And with all that was left develloped we had enough to do at least another 1 year, to be 12 years old.

Besides, we still expect these "" many "" project on FT, we had the amine, the novel, its only 2, it is not enough to use the therm "" many "".

Well, look at OP it's been 20 years, it will probably end in 5-10 years.

Bleach is 15 years old as a naruto to only mention them.

Silent voice is 5 years I think, magi is 12 years old I think.

In short most of the time it does that.

Don that's why 11 YEARS is weird.

 

[Gut's is the man]

Yeah Acnologia’s backstory was already revealed in Dragon Cry and I think Acnologia’s backstory will be expanded in the anime unless whoever writes the 100 Year Quest spin off wants to expanded on Acnologia’s backstory. But I think the 100 Year Quest isn’t about Acnologia and I think Acnologia just an obstacle for those trying to do the 100 Year Quest and it’s possible the objective of the 100 Year Quest is finding fairies since Mavis wanted to see Faires. Also I think the battle of those two angels and who were they were fighting over could have involved the Angel Saint that was mentioned by Precht in Fairy Tail Zero chapter 5.

by backstory you mean: Parent got killed by dragon= hates dragons, would have had to have been trained by dragon to get magic= some how he found a way to forgive dragons, See's dragons try to kill little girls despite should have known by then that there were good dragons and that the one's attacking human are viewed as evil and from a different contineient= Hates dragons???= Audience is just as confused as hearing pikachu talk. Yeah we know what motivates Acnologia, but we do not KNOW his backstory and honestly it raises more questions then answers.

Which is not to mention the timeline which is a complete mess. (Seriously take Acnologia& zeref villages being destroyed, The description of events, the time necessary for such to happen and you realize... Either everything occurred within a ridiculously short period of time or Mashima wasn't even thinking of how far apart these events were.)

Why he hanged around Mt. Sonia though is a curiosity and it has to be tied to him. Also couldn't the Angel Saint and fairies be connectioed

 

[strikefreedom]

Bha zirconis had said that the dragon war lasted a long time.

Was Acno child or adult at this time?

Same for zeref, all its history is 400 years ago but the dragon war too.

So it means that in less than 1 year (as it seems to be saying) zeref has tested all the physical way of killing himself, the magic for that kill + has created all the demon + END.

And again after he met igneel and anna and helped them to eclipse.

It's way too short, we'll have said that zeref will be more than 400 years old, like 500-600 years old would have been.

And the same why he did not destroy his demons, how did he find the book of END, why zeref left the book like this unattended (a bit like maivis who takes the book like that XD).

Where have met marde and the king of the spirit?

This story of black and white angel, a relationship with ANK?

A lot of things that will have been developed or that we will have to ask for explanations during the convention.

 

[Cat Sidhe26]

by backstory you mean: Parent got killed by dragon= hates dragons, would have had to have been trained by dragon to get magic= some how he found a way to forgive dragons, See's dragons try to kill little girls despite should have known by then that there were good dragons and that the one's attacking human are viewed as evil and from a different contineient= Hates dragons???= Audience is just as confused as hearing pikachu talk. Yeah we know what motivates Acnologia, but we do not KNOW his backstory and honestly it raises more questions then answers.

Which is not to mention the timeline which is a complete mess. (Seriously take Acnologia& zeref villages being destroyed, The description of events, the time necessary for such to happen and you realize... Either everything occurred within a ridiculously short period of time or Mashima wasn't even thinking of how far apart these events were.)

Why he hanged around Mt. Sonia though is a curiosity and it has to be tied to him. Also couldn't the Angel Saint and fairies be connectioed

Wither you like it or not that is Acnologia's backstory and there's nothing we can do about it but I'm sure the anime will expanded on Acnologia's backstory to better explain his backstory. Also it's like @strikefreedom said the Dragon Civil War went on for a long time and we don't know if Acnologia was a kid or a adult went his village was destroyed so I don't think the timeline is a complete mess. Also I don't think Acnologia hanging around Mount Saint Zonia because Mount Saint Zonia is a snowy mountain while Acnologia was in a rocky mountain and also I don't think Acnologia has anything to do with the 100 Year Quest because in the last chapter if Team Natsu didn't go on the 100 Year Quest then the 100 Year Quest would have something to do with Acnologia.

 

[Gut's is the man]

Wither you like it or not that is Acnologia's backstory and there's nothing we can do about it but I'm sure the anime will expanded on Acnologia's backstory to better explain his backstory. Also it's like @strikefreedom said the Dragon Civil War went on for a long time and we don't know if Acnologia was a kid or a adult went his village was destroyed so I don't think the timeline is a complete mess. Also I don't think Acnologia hanging around Mount Saint Zonia because Mount Saint Zonia is a snowy mountain while Acnologia was in a rocky mountain and also I don't think Acnologia has anything to do with the 100 Year Quest because in the last chapter if Team Natsu didn't go on the 100 Year Quest then the 100 Year Quest would have something to do with Acnologia.

There a difference between a long time and the decades of length the DCW would need thanks to the event's it's connected too. (Zeref losing his family is the bigger hurdle here especially since Zeref would have to be from Ishgar for alot of event's to make sense but it creates continuity issues thanks to Igneel and the others losing their souls, THe length of Acno existence, how long it took for Zeref legend to get as big as it was. Alot was fine thanks to ambiguity but Irene ended up creating alot of problem because of how definitely long the war was thanks to her.)

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Bha zirconis had said that the dragon war lasted a long time.

Was Acno child or adult at this time?

Same for zeref, all its history is 400 years ago but the dragon war too.

So it means that in less than 1 year (as it seems to be saying) zeref has tested all the physical way of killing himself, the magic for that kill + has created all the demon + END.

And again after he met igneel and anna and helped them to eclipse.

It's way too short, we'll have said that zeref will be more than 400 years old, like 500-600 years old would have been.

And the same why he did not destroy his demons, how did he find the book of END, why zeref left the book like this unattended (a bit like maivis who takes the book like that XD).

Where have met marde and the king of the spirit?

This story of black and white angel, a relationship with ANK?

A lot of things that will have been developed or that we will have to ask for explanations during the convention.

Everything you said. Everything is right on target.

 

[Cat Sidhe26]

There a difference between a long time and the decades of length the DCW would need thanks to the event's it's connected too. (Zeref losing his family is the bigger hurdle here especially since Zeref would have to be from Ishgar for alot of event's to make sense but it creates continuity issues thanks to Igneel and the others losing their souls, THe length of Acno existence, how long it took for Zeref legend to get as big as it was. Alot was fine thanks to ambiguity but Irene ended up creating alot of problem because of how definitely long the war was thanks to her.)

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Everything you said. Everything is right on target.

Well the thing about Irene she was a recent make up which would explain the problems Irene cost.

 

[Gut's is the man]

Well the thing about Irene she was a recent make up which would explain the problems Irene cost.

Sad thing is that Mashima had enough time from when she was introduced to the point that we were told the history. For him to realize those problems. But he didn't care. (Mashima himself once mentioned how cool it was that fans picked up on those inconsistency but he didn't care.....)

 

[strikefreedom]

bha I have rather said in connection with ANK.

That the white angel can be in love with this man of the one we speak, the reason why the angels were fighting and the black angel wanted something also from this man or so was in love with the white angel .

The white angel won and got the "favor" of this man.

Maybe they had children who would be after centuries family dragneel, it's an idea.

Or ANK did not tolerate this union and killed the white angel and the man.

For the black angel perhaps he became an erect spirit, filled with revenge and hatred, and he wanted to take revenge on men.

He found an acno child or not, he found that he would make the ideal candidate for his revenge.

He "merged" with him and that's what made the acno so special, the reason why acno has angel's wings and no dragon.

Acno would have become the new black angel.

Maybe zeref and maivis are the reincarnation of the white angel and the man.

And who they were cursed is for this reason, ANK "recognized" them "as such and instead of killing them this time he decided to curse them.

 

[Angiecakes1990]

Yep. Also this means Lucy's role during the 100 Year Quest could be translating the unknown language on the rocks to find out that the rocks are the reason why no one came back from Mount Saint Zonia.

maybe her quest to find aquarius's key too