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Do you watch One Piece? (anime)


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Re: Latest Episodes Discussion

Honestly, I thought Impel Down was good. (They did a good job compared to the anxiety I felt while I was reading the chapters during that arc - Questions popped up in my head, like, "When the hell are they going to get out?")
 

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watching this arc for several weeks... sigh~ the anime effect of the strongest man in the world... just cracking glass and breaking two ices??? Seriously!!! You ruined the strongest man's image and this entire arc big time Toei or whatever this rubbish company...
 

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I'm still not sure if I should be amazed or disappointed that they were able to stretch a 13 page chapter into a 24 minutes episode. :/
 

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Animation reminded me of Naruto vs. Sasuke anime fight. (I just don't like animation where it appears bland/rushed; it's worse for Luffy. When he made his entrance, his arms looked like flabby pieces of flesh (No signs of having actual elbows, knees, or 6 pack even).

watching this arc for several weeks... sigh~ the anime effect of the strongest man in the world... just cracking glass and breaking two ices??? Seriously!!! You ruined the strongest man's image and this entire arc big time Toei or whatever this rubbish company...
My questions are:
What do Japanese fans think of the animation?
Is Toei going down the crapper? Is it their budget? Did they have to let go of people?
 
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I would want to see all these anime haters animating the One Piece anime themselves, keeping the pace with the manga and not streching the distances with it even if the author takes 4 weeks of holidays for himself.
Filler is part of animating, and if you all dislike the "slow pace" you all see in this arc. You all may want tot pick all the episodes, cut the manga parts, and put them all together. Because it seems only that way you'll realize how epic it's being. If you hate the One piece anime, don't post in its subforums.
I personally hate Naruto because i find it's over rated, for me it's popularity doesn't matches it's quality.
It has poor character development and full of nonsense plot crap like reviving all the antagonists in the series. That's why i don't post in the naruto sections.
Sure it's not as flawless as we all would want, but every week i pass by, i only read comments like "Slow pace is killing us" "They are killing the arc" "This isn't epic at all". Creating an anime isn't that easy so that you can always do it 100% as the manga
Now, as Cid from FFVII would say "Sit your ass down in that chair and watch your goddamn episode!"
 
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I didn't know that it was a "Care Bears" forum where only positive posts were allowed. The first minute of the episode was really annoying, the only interesting parts were the fillers of Squardo sword. So they can do good things with fillers like squardo flashback, Crocodile speech which is clearer so they don't need to copy paste the manga like that especially when it does not suit the anime.

When you compare the anime with the manga page it's quite funny. They kept exactly the same order except for Akainu and Moria whom they switched (I wonder why). Also most of the faces have been mirrored but not all of them, Jinbei is the same for example (I wonder why too)...
 
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I would want to see all these anime haters animating the One Piece anime themselves, keeping the pace with the manga and not streching the distances with it even if the author takes 4 weeks of holidays for himself.
Quite frankly, I don't care about keeping pace with the manga. If they catch up, they catch up. I don't want to sacrifice quality. It was absolutely brilliant pacing in Ennie Lobby arc when time is of the essence. It should be like that now.

Not wasting 8 minutes staring at something being all shocked or 15 minutes having wedding daydream/fantasies IN THE MIDDLE OF A WAR.
 

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I didn't know that it was a "Care Bears" forum where only positive posts were allowed. The first minute of the episode was really annoying, the only interesting parts where the filler of Squardo sword.
It's not a Care Bears forum, but it isn't also Hell, it's nice to see criticism, but not when every single post is criticism. Some destructive critical comments are good to see, but not when every single comment as destructive critical. There's something called constructive criticism, it's about when you say something is going wrong, you expose what you think it should be.

So they can do good things with fillers like squardo flashback, Crocodile speech which is clearer so they don't need to copy paste the manga like that especially when it does not suit the anime.
Like this, highlighting the good points and not only the bad points.
Not wasting 8 minutes staring at something being all shocked or 15 minutes having wedding daydream/fantasies IN THE MIDDLE OF A WAR.
It's true that was quite unnecesary, but every single emotion characters feel influences in this war, sometimes you can't ignore some strong emotions like love (Hancock) or hatred (Squardo) even if you're at war.
Squardo's flashback was helpful, quite brilliant and Hancock's flashback was so unnecesary. In moments like this you can see not everything Toei does is good and not everything Toei does is bad.
 
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I liked the episode, Cameo's are the essence of this war, and I'm glad we got 3 min's of cameo's over 5 minutes of some one saying "OH MY GOD WB IS SO GREAT AND HE IS GOING TO THE BATTLEFIELD, OH MY GOD I'M SO EXCITED I JUST CAME"...
The only thing I didn't like was the Ice, it seemed like it just shattered, instead of that awesome feeling in the manga, where it actually looks like a quake just started near Ice...
And the Ice is to bland, it looks really white,a and lacks detail, if the Ice was detailed, and the image more shadowed (like the faces, for instances) that scene would have been awesome...

Also a plus on the faces, I love that style...
 

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The episode was absolutely good, the animation was great, music too, they really did a good job !
I can't wait for the next one !
 

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The episode was pretty good. I'm surprised that the anime didn't show Squardo trying to cut Marco after he punched him. That's great to see also Squardo's meeting with Whitebeard.
 

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I think Toei is doing a good job within their designated constraints (one chapter an episode). Some people may have an issue as far as the lack of action went, but there were some double spreads in the manga and likewise a few pages of characters staring back at Whitebeard being stabbed.

It was difficult for anyone to adapt a chapter with hardly any dialogue or action near the beginning, let alone stretch it out to the 20 minute mark. The bystanders at Sabaody basically summed up everybody elses' thoughts as far as Whitebeard's injury went.

Toei did a good job sucking me in during the second half, to convince me that their plan was nearly full-proof. It was no coincidence that Aokiji decided to freeze up the entire sea. Sengoku knew that Whitebeard would be standing at the front of his men during the battle. Akainu, who is notorious for his negotiation abilities, was able to convince Squardo into thinking Whitebeard was nothing more than a scumbag who sold out his men for glory. The Allied Pirates, who were fighting outside the bay, were closed off by Aokiji's glaciers. Last but not least, the Pacifista were sent out to obliterate the Allied Pirates and their ships one by one.

The plan was so brilliant that even Whitebeard's Allied Pirates, who promised to give up their lives for him, were convinced that Whitebeard sold them out as well. As long as the bystanders had doubts in their hearts, as long as the momentum of the Whitebeard Pirates was disrupted, as long as the World's Strongest Man is in ailing health, the plan would be a complete success. No longer was it a joint effort to save Ace, but rather it was a fight for utter survival: the most basic instinct a living creature has.

It is for this reason that Sengoku decided to allow Buggy and his men to continue broadcasting the war, just so the viewers around the world can see this one last act of sabotage. It was only after Whitebeard was stabbed (which was conceived all around the world) that the World Govenment decided to act out on their brutal massacre. At this point, Sengoku saw it best to order Aokiji to interrupt Buggy's Den Den Mushi and its broadcast.

I have to admit, we have never really conceived that much of Sengoku's strategy making as far as the scope of the story went. We knew that Sengoku and Whitebeard were both brilliant strategists, but only until this plan came to fruition that we (the readers and anime viewers) finally received justification as to why Sengoku was deemed the Fleet Admiral.

Whitebeard's message at the end of the episode was absolutely epic. Some people may label him as a "monster," or a "devil," or the "strongest man in the world," but he is a human just the same. If his heart fails to continue beating, his body will eventually wither away and die. Many of us would have thought that Whitebeard, known far out in the world as a savage and brutal pirate, would have beaten down Squardo for his errors in judgment.

However, it is because Whitebeard embraced his foolish follower as family that shows that even an intimidating leader can reciprocate bonds of love. The viewers got a glimpse as to how important family is to Whitebeard. He's certainly not a pirate known for giving up on his nakama. It is precisely this reason that Whitebeard and his men exerted themselves on saving the life of their own crewmate, in the midst of World Government territory.

Very good episode. Oda is such a genius craftmaker, weaving together such a brilliant story and connecting the fans closer to his world. The second half of this episode definitely redeemed the first 7 minutes of utter silence and redundancy.
 
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Re: Latest Episodes Discussion

Animation reminded me of Naruto vs. Sasuke anime fight. (I just don't like animation where it appears bland/rushed; it's worse for Luffy. When he made his entrance, his arms looked like flabby pieces of flesh (No signs of having actual elbows, knees, or 6 pack even).
My questions are:
What do Japanese fans think of the animation?
Is Toei going down the crapper? Is it their budget? Did they have to let go of people?
LMAO do you realise you just pointed out the qualities of someone being made from rubber? that post made me laugh a bit.
 
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The episode was great and for everyone who don't like it...go suck an egg. The anime let's us see just how fast aokiji really is. Also the last minute or so was the best. Whitebeard rallying the troops, jumping off the ship shouting let's go. Toei did him justice.
 

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Also a plus on the faces, I love that style...
Then you should thank Oda because Toei did not add a single thing except color
 

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LMAO do you realise you just pointed out the qualities of someone being made from rubber? that post made me laugh a bit.
If you looked back to earlier episodes, you can see there's more detail in his design - like the design quality of his elbows/six pack. It looks like it's been rushed now.
 

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Animation is one thing, pacing is another.

I, for one, must say that Toei did a so-so job with the pacing of this episode. The problem with the "one chapter per episode" adaption is that Toei is directly following what Oda himself has drawn for 16 pages (which isn't much). At least this particular chapter had a lot of dialogue, so it wasn't hard for Toei to make the 18-minute stretch to the end of the episode.

The only issue I had with the episode is the lack of spontanity during the first couple of minutes. Although this was Oda's intention with the double spread, it was still a lot of silence.
 

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Honestly, I don't mind the pacing b/c Oda just started writing the arc after the 2year timeskip. It's mostly been with the animation (Why can't they make Whitebeard's wound more "believable"?); and maybe Marco's involvment. (He's being way too casual sitting by as his comrades go into battle).
 

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I'm going to strike a blow for yesterday's episode since I just watched the episode full-screen in 720p while doing nothing else but watching without any time pressure like the need to put details into wiki articles or to discuss it ASAP. So I sat back, and enjoyed the show.

And all I have to complain about is: There's a small error concerning the sword that is missing in a scene when Whitebeard is shown from behind after being stabbed - a nitpick. The pacing was correct, fillers and animation adequate for a weekly TV show with limited resources. I was awaiting a rather western styled drawings since I've seen last week's spoilertrailer and was shocked upon Akainu's broad chin... But there wasn't anything wrong with it afterwards.

Over all ... I'd give it a 9.5 out of 10 since there weren't any chronological changes.

I didn't know that it was a "Care Bears" forum where only positive posts were allowed.
Since when are One Piece forums "troll swales" in which so called critics may smash some eggs anytime? It's only natural to post more positive stuff in a ... wait a second, I know the term ... ah, yes ... fan section of a forum. MH sure isn't OP only but here's the subforum as harbor for OP fans, and I'm pretty sure this "criticism" here isn't covered by the criticism but no bashing policy.

Some guys seem not to be satisfied with the current episodes. So what? They don't have nothing else to do but watching a show they obviously simply don't like anymore? Not that they ever seem to have, nor are able to go into detail what exactly is their problem...
 
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I'm not trolling/spamming the wonder that is One Piece; just a regular guy who likes good animation. (I know animation can be costly/time consuming; I've watched Avatar: The Last Airbender).
 
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