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Re: Hiatus (NOT CURRENTLY)

I think we can expect at least 10 more chapters. :D
 

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Andrew, you keep asking, just wait for it to happen, it will very likely happen some time in the future, why should he have changed his attitude now?^^

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Wow he's drawing his manga himself? oO People haven't argued so much about his sketchy style at times as much about his brakes. Togashi rarely drew backgrounds or if than not complicated ones for a long time, so there's no need for an assistent or at least a permanently employed one.
 

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Pretty sure Togashi has no assistants but that's his problem, not my problem. It's not like he can't afford them.
 

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Andrew, you keep asking, just wait for it to happen, it will very likely happen some time in the future, why should he have changed his attitude now?^^

I know, I'm sorry. ):
I'm dreaming of a "Hiatus-free" HxH, heh. I'm just chasing rainbows, but hope dies last, right? :D

Well, it's a bit Off-topic but I just watched the new HxH Anime and I'm so looking forward to see some epic fights plus the Music is cool, too.
 
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Pretty sure Togashi has no assistants but that's his problem, not my problem. It's not like he can't afford them.
Honestly I wish he did have assistants. It would help the artwork especially when he's not drawing so well. Though at the same time I don't blame him. I mean if I could draw a manga
or comic all by myself that was as good quality as Hunter x Hunter I just might do that.
I mean in spite of the sketchiness sometimes Togashi can draw. He's just inconsistent.
 

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There's also the possiblity that he just wants to put the emphasis on the written text and the characters expressions instead of some door, desk, etc. It's a bit the opposite to Miura with his mighty double spreads.^^ We should further the discussion in the Hangout thread, before it's completely off-topic.
 
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Honestly I wish he did have assistants. It would help the artwork especially when he's not drawing so well. Though at the same time I don't blame him. I mean if I could draw a manga
or comic all by myself that was as good quality as Hunter x Hunter I just might do that.
I mean in spite of the sketchiness sometimes Togashi can draw. He's just inconsistent.
I assume he doesn't have assistants because they might interfere with his creativity, or they might not draw in the style he wants. But that's his choice so I don't see it as an excuse when people complain the apparent lack of polish on the drawing themselves.
 

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I assume he doesn't have assistants because they might interfere with his creativity, or they might not draw in the style he wants. But that's his choice so I don't see it as an excuse when people complain the apparent lack of polish on the drawing themselves.

I wasn't saying that it's an excuse for his "lack of polish".

I was saying that if he's drawing and writing a manga by himself he's not lazy.

Of course someone will say "I could draw 318 chapters in x many years it took Togashi."

Of course you could. But can you make those 318 chapters worth reading?
Also could you actually get people to read them? Of course Togashi has
Shonen Jump to help him with that. But it's not easy to get published by them.

Plus he also wrote and drew Yu Yu Hakusho. Which isn't that over 20 volumes long?

If Togashi was lazy he would have quit a long time ago.
 

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Nobody is questioning his ability to work as a mangaka.

And because other mangaka use assistents for backgrounds they could be lazy? Don't try to make him look better than those with assistens please. No mangaka can be lazy with their weekly shedules, monthly series may have some more air though. I wont rate any, as we simply don't know them and their labor conditions personally.

I don't see the connection between work and being lazy in the last part. You can do both. :O If you got enough wealth you don't have to care if you do your work lazily or not, as it will sell anyway. Not that this example can be used on him, I don't even care. I'm accustomed to this style, and we as the readers have to simply accept it, stop complaining over and over again, get over it or simply stop reading.
 
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Nobody is questioning his ability to work as a mangaka.

And because other mangaka use assistents for backgrounds they could be lazy? Don't try to make him look better than those with assistens please. No mangaka can be lazy with their weekly shedules, monthly series may have some more air though.
I never said those mangaka who use assistants are lazy. I'm saying Togashi isn't lazy. There's a difference.
 

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You don't know neither do I, that's another difference. I hope he isn't. :D

Taking brakes no other mangaka can dare to ask for, does make him look lazy in the views of a big part of his followers, not if he still has so much more to explain and show in his now long-running series.
 

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http://medoroa.net/dojinshi/yoshi10.jpg

This is the doushinji I mentioned earlier. Togashi made a point that he was literally sick of writing manga and early on it caused him a meltdown.
 

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I've seen people take similar or longer breaks than Togashi. It's just those guys usually get fired so you don't hear much about them. If Togashi is a normal no-name, then what's most likely going to happen is Gin will jump down from a parachute and defeat Meryem and the whole story would end there, and Togashi would be kicked off whatever weekly he's on. However, since Togashi's ability to generate sales is significant, nobody is going to kick him off the serial since HXH is still pretty much money in the bank even if you only get 1 volume worth of stuff every year.

In most popular serialis, if your work stops being popular, you'd get some kind of ultamatium to finish the entire story in about ~10 chapters. Normally if you stopped drawing for an year or two, it quickly falls off the popularity chart. HXH is a notable exception.
 

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I feel like those points were made in the last pages already, so there's no need to repeat Imo. He's most probably the most "free" mangaka producing manga today, if he were so sick of manga, he shouldn't/wouldn't have started with HxH to begin with.
 

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You don't know neither do I, that's another difference. I hope he isn't. :D

Taking brakes no other mangaka can dare to ask for, does make him look lazy in the views of a big part of his followers, not if he still has so much more to explain and show in his now long-running series.
I know he's not lazy because he's written and drawn roughly 50 volumes of manga.
20 for Yu Yu Hakusho. 30 for HxH. Yes it took him a long time and yes there are others
who have written and drawn more. But 50 volumes is still a lot to write and draw.

Maybe Togashi IS just taking breaks for the sake of taking a break. Though it's just baseless speculation fueled by the frustration of fans. And even if he is fine by me. I much rather wait and get good quality HxH then to get bad quality HxH.

I think the whole "Togashi hates the fans" is just silly. The chapters that looked like
scribbles may seem like Togashi just doesn't care but to me it's the opposite.
Togashi is trying to draw a manga even though then he wasn't at his best.
The fact that Togashi redrew those chapters is proof that Togashi does care.

I actually wouldn't be surprised if part of the reason why Togashi takes long breaks
is because he's trying to make the story the best it can be. I mean his interview
with Oda said he sometimes gets stumped. If Togashi was lazy he would never
get stumped because he can just follow a formula.
 

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Re: Hiatus (NOT CURRENTLY)

Zeromcd has written a great post that fits here perfectly:
Excuse my bad math >.>

2011 Series Absences
Hunter X Hunter: 31
One Piece: 5
Naruto: 1
Bleach: 1
Toriko: 1
Inumaru Dashi: 1
Bakuman: 1
Total Absences = 41

2010 Series Absences
Hunter x Hunter: 28
One Piece: 8
Naruto: 3
Bleach: 3
Toriko: 2
Gintama: 2
Bakuman: 1
Total Absences = 47

2009 Series Absences
Hunter x Hunter: 47
D.Gray-Man: 12
One Piece: 7
Pyu to Fuku! Jaguar: 3
Toriko: 2
Naruto: 1
Bleach: 1
Total Absences = 73

2008 Series Absences
Hunter x Hunter: 28
D.Gray-Man: 8
One Piece: 4
Naruto: 2
Pyu to Fuku! Jaguar: 1
Bleach: 1
Gintama: 1
Barihaken: 1
Total Absences = 46

2007 Series Absences
Hunter x Hunter: 41
D.Gray-Man: 9
Prince of Tennis: 6
One Piece: 4
Pyu to Fuku! Jaguar: 4
Shinsetsu Bobobo: 1
Total Absences = 65

2006 Series Absences
Hunter x Hunter: 44
D.Gray-Man: 17
Prince of Tennis: 16
Beshari Gurashi: 7
Pyu to Fuku! Jaguar: 5
One Piece: 4
Shinsetsu Bobobo: 2
Death Note: 1
Gintama: 1
Naruto: 1
Mr. Fullswing: 1
Total Absences = 99

2005 Series Absences
Hunter x Hunter: 17
Death Note: 8
D.Gray-Man: 6
Prince of Tennis: 3
One Piece: 3
Naruto: 3
Busou Renkin: 2
Bleach: 2
Bobobo: 2
Beshari Gurashi: 1
Mr. Fullswing: 1
Total Absences: 55

2004 Series Absences
Hunter x Hunter: 26
Busou Renkin: 8
Mr. Fullswing: 5
Pyu to Fuku! Jaguar: 5
Prince of Tennis: 4
One Piece: 3
Naruto: 3
Bleach: 2
Shaman King: 2
Death Note: 1
Black Cat: 1
Total Absences: 60

2003 Series Absences
Rookies: 14
Hunter x Hunter: 10
Mr. Fullswing: 5
Shaman King: 4
Hikaru no Go: 4
Prince of Tennis: 3
One Piece:3
Yu-Gi-Oh: 3
Pyu to Fuku! Jaguar: 3
Black Cat: 2
Kanagawa: 2
Ichigo 100%: 1
Pretty Face: 1
Busou Renkin: 1
Total Absences: 57
 

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You could have deleted all the other series to make it clearer; reposting whole posts, one that's not even two hour old is meh Imo.


source:Comicpress.com + edit by me :P
 
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Well, we are slowly approaching the end of the volume and 2 volumes is the most he has published in the last couple of years. More so, there are just about enough chapters left for him to complete a volume before the christmas break. I get the impression he plans on going on a hiatus once he hits 329.... What I am wondering about is on whether he intends on going on year long hiatuses again. He already said in an interview that he has around 4 more arcs planned for the manga which is not doable if he keeps working at the pace he is.
 

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Well, as all of you i really hope he is going to take less breaks for the next couple of years.

I do think that the Ant Arc was something he had a hard time going through, especially the middle phase. Also, Togashi might be an exception when it comes to Shonen pacing, but keep in mind that many, many Josey, Shoujo, Seinen have the same publification rhythm (Bastard!, Berserk!, Nana....).
 

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I've got a good feeling this time.
Maybe he's gonna take a break after 329/330 had been released to celebrate new year with his family and their friends. 330/331 will be released 1-2 weeks afterwards.
That would be the way the other Mangakas are going to do it, right?

That's a bit ...dunno...unrealistic....but one can dream, rite?

Besides, the Story is now back to the HxH before Chimera Ant Arc started and I guess it's no big deal for him to write these storys considering that he still intends to write 4-5 more stories.
And his Anime rebooted and looks pretty epic, too. He's helping the Anime-team himself, wich is a good sign for his motivation.


He should take more, but short breaks like 2 Weaks like the other Mangakas.
The Chimera Ant Arc forced him to refill his creativity every now and then, as he stated.
But now that things are back to normal, he will probably suprise us.


I'm a bit too optimistic, but even if he'll take a break again after 329/330 had been released, we should be grateful for the double amount of work he did this time.

Due to new year everyone will take a break, right? But yeah, I'm getting all fired up again, so I stop right here xD
Let's wait and see, comrades.

Ciao
 
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