Question How y'all view this statement?

[O_n_Sly]

If you get really technical about it karaka fights remotely using his armor as a mostly empty vessel. It's a bit weird to refer to this as immortality. It'd be interesting to see how his immortality would function, if at all, if he were to be physically present during combat. Then again I suppose there's a possibility that it's only karaka's heart that's not at the armor.

To my understanding, Karaka fights in his armor. He bled at the cage when Khel shot him and he bled when Dumas ignited Rosario

 

[Anne isn't a TT]

I don’t think it’s the armor that makes Karaka immortal, it’s Zahard’s blood just like Wangnang.

Tbh, I don't think Wangnan is immortal. If his entire body is destroyed or his head cut off and then he comes back to life, he could be considered an immortal. At best, I believe he has some super ultra regeneration abilities.

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If you get really technical about it karaka fights remotely using his armor as a mostly empty vessel. It's a bit weird to refer to this as immortality. It'd be interesting to see how his immortality would function, if at all, if he were to be physically present during combat. Then again I suppose there's a possibility that it's only karaka's heart that's not at the armor.

Well JH gave Karaka armour to save his life. If he was immortal, he would never give him that armour. Also, Yuri was sure she killed Karaka. Even White was sacred asf of UM's 1% power. Then the last straw were UM comment about the armour has a spell and he can't give him wings and JH's comment about how Dumas heart isn't here and is same as Karaka.

 

[O_n_Sly]

LMAO he was stabbed in the heart and survived. When Yihwa lost control of her flame and killed everyone; who survived LOL?!?

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We know absolutely nothing about Karaka, so to say that JH gave him the armor to save his life is absurd! Karaka was selected to be a slayer b/c of his power not the armor lol. Unlike Yama and Bam the Elders respect him and have never made a play against him.

 

[Anne isn't a TT]

LMAO he was stabbed in the heart and survived

This says there are few people who can live after getting their heart stopped. Maybe Wangnan belongs to this. Also, Khun was also stabbed at heart, yet he lives. Does that mean, he is also immortal like Wangnan?

When Yihwa lost control of her flame and killed everyone; who survived LOL?!?

Correct me if I am wrong, but have any regular died while taking a test normally? Test administrator are there to make sure none dies. Unless they are manipulated like with love, I haven't seen one.

We know absolutely nothing about Karaka, so to say that JH gave him the armor to save his life is absurd! Karaka was selected to be a slayer b/c of his power not the armor lol.

 

[maverickframe_19]

All I'll say is every slayer is a bozo until proven otherwise. The slayers worth investing your stock into are Grace Mirchea Luslec and Jue Viole Grace.

 

[arrowofsky]

All I'll say is every slayer is a bozo until proven otherwise. The slayers worth investing your stock into are Grace Mirchea Luslec and Jue Viole Grace.

I would bet my 50 to Luslec, 40 to Baam, and 10 to White.

 

[Jackjohsnon]

Luslec was not confirmed as a Slayer yet. In blogs, yes. But in the webtoon? Not yet.

 

[Demonspeed]

I was talking from towerborn perspective. To irregulars, spells aren't everything but to towerborns spells might give them biggest edge like for instance Karaka as the armour has immortality spell.

Not really. We don't know that much about Spells to begin with. Luslec is a Sorcerer but do you believe that Adori, Enne and Baek are experts in Sorcery? Or most of the Top 25 among Towerborns? Unlikely.

I don't remember Karaka having an immortality spell. Thanks to Infinite Past Lives, a Shinsoo Manipulation Technique he can respawn and it has conditions.

Even if his armor is enchanted with a Spell in the end it's part of his equipment. We have seen many strong abilities which are unrelated to Spells.

 

[Anne isn't a TT]

Not really. We don't know that much about Spells to begin with.

That's because Jahad family considers it as a taboo. We will definitely see more of it later.

but do you believe that Adori, Enne and Baek are experts in Sorcery? Or most of the Top 25 among Towerborns? Unlikely.

No, I don't but they will definitely have a hax similar to spells. We know Adori has Arie swordsmanship. Anne should also have inherited sth from blossom. Tho, I am more curious about Baek.

I don't remember Karaka having an immortality spell. Thanks to Infinite Past Lives, a Shinsoo Manipulation Technique he can respawn and it has conditions

This clearly tells us Armour is the reason behind the immortality of Dumas and Karaka.

Even if his armor is enchanted with a Spell in the end it's part of his equipment. We have seen many strong abilities which are unrelated to Spells.

Well if we just look at slayers, everyone have sth to do with spells. First Mirchea, I don't think I need to talk about him. Then White, he became slayer because of his ability related to devouring souls which is thanks to spells.

Then Karaka, while he became a slayer (we don't know if it was without armour as JH mentioned he had an armour before he gifted him), even if he didn't use armour to become slayer, the reason why he can even come to the battlefield with strong HRs compared to him is because of the armour.

Then there's Yama, while doom was chosen a slayer initially, Yama got this seat. Even in cage, KH wanted to make doom slayer because of the spell installed in his heart. While it doesn't give any power to doom, spell is another reason why he almost became one.

Then as a bonus, here's reaction of Dumas to Khun as a sorcerer.

 

[O_n_Sly]

This says there are few people who can live after getting their heart stopped. Maybe Wangnan belongs to this. Also, Khun was also stabbed at heart, yet he lives. Does that mean, he is also immortal like Wangnan?

All of AA’s instances were explained LOL!!!



Correct me if I am wrong, but have any regular died while taking a test normally? Test administrator are there to make sure none dies. Unless they are manipulated like with love, I haven't seen one.

LOL you’re joking right?!? All of Yas’ DCs died during his game LOL. The 1st game Bam played more than half the contestants died LOL!

All of AA’s instances were explained LOL!!!

LOL you’re joking right?!? All of Yas’ DCs died during his game LOL. The 1st game Bam played more than half the contestants died LOL!

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When Kallavan said he would cut Karaka into pieces and present him as a gift to Zahard, that’s not the armor keeping him alive it’s his own ability LOL S3ch59

 

[arrowofsky]

That's because Jahad family considers it as a taboo. We will definitely see more of it later.




No, I don't but they will definitely have a hax similar to spells. We know Adori has Arie swordsmanship. Anne should also have inherited sth from blossom. Tho, I am more curious about Baek.

This clearly tells us Armour is the reason behind the immortality of Dumas and Karaka.




Well if we just look at slayers, everyone have sth to do with spells. First Mirchea, I don't think I need to talk about him. Then White, he became slayer because of his ability related to devouring souls which is thanks to spells.

Then Karaka, while he became a slayer (we don't know if it was without armour as JH mentioned he had an armour before he gifted him), even if he didn't use armour to become slayer, the reason why he can even come to the battlefield with strong HRs compared to him is because of the armour.

Then there's Yama, while doom was chosen a slayer initially, Yama got this seat. Even in cage, KH wanted to make doom slayer because of the spell installed in his heart. While it doesn't give any power to doom, spell is another reason why he almost became one.

Then as a bonus, here's reaction of Dumas to Khun as a sorcerer.

Karaka's infinite past lives is an interesting thing, but his armor is still similar to the Dumas as you already referred. Karaka may have other things, too, but his slayership potentially has two reasons, a yet to known hax in addition to growth potential and relation to the zahard-revos.
White's slayership is mostly from him "making the deal with the devil" and combining 5 Arie siblings into one, being someone quite interesting. Devouring dead and then igniting them at once is still cool, but probably he got it after him being the slayer candidate.
Doom being able to create an army (thanks to Yasratcha) and his external transformation coming in handy in most cases (Karaka has a tin can version) also helps, but his heart was an interesting case still. It was not even in his own body, and probably still done because Doom had a fang and would rather like to be forcefully controlled then monitored. Yama has much more potential with his full transformation, but without doing it he was still being Daze'd by Yasratcha, so not really completely close for suggestion, even by a workshop product, let alone the FH. I can see why Fug Elders preferred Doom, also he was of a pure-breed canine, whether it means to anything is almost undebatable crap now but it might be a selection reason still. Now that Yama grabbed the fangs and Doom dead, and no one cares the other brother and maybe there is not much of a beastkin anyway, and Traum dead, Yama being a slayer is up for grabs. Whatever reason Doom was chosen as a slayer is absent now, and Yama can't have them, he is just strong and has potential on his own. We may even see a panel where they let Yama be devoured by White, and then see the chaos.

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Luslec was not confirmed as a Slayer yet. In blogs, yes. But in the webtoon? Not yet.

tbf, none of them should be "slayers" without killing their targets, or at least doing something on that caliber. If Adori were to be a slayer, I would consider her now really as a slayer, for instance.

 

[Anne isn't a TT]

All of AA’s instances were explained LOL!!!

LOL you’re joking right?!? All of Yas’ DCs died during his game LOL. The 1st game Bam played more than half the contestants died LOL!

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When Kallavan said he would cut Karaka into pieces and present him as a gift to Zahard, that’s not the armor keeping him alive it’s his own ability LOL S3ch59

Even if Khun's instances are explained doesn't mean what Dumas said is invalid.

I am talking about regulars climbing test. Love was almost expelled because a regular died.
The game in nest was designed in a way to kill contestants lol. Same in slay the chess pieces. Lol

Tell me U are trolling when U don't read the lines. JH tells Dumas has same armour as Karaka and the reason is armour why he came back to life lol. If Karaka is immortal, why doesn't he even dare to eat with JH without armour? He is scared kitten.

 

[O_n_Sly]

Even if Khun's instances are explained doesn't mean what Dumas said is invalid.

I am talking about regulars climbing test. Love was almost expelled because a regular died.
The game in nest was designed in a way to kill contestants lol. Same in slay the chess pieces. Lol

Tell me U are trolling when U don't read the lines. JH tells Dumas has same armour as Karaka and the reason is armour why he came back to life lol. If Karaka is immortal, why doesn't he even dare to eat with JH without armour? He is scared kitten.

Lol Mule the test administrator couldn’t kill but didn’t the fake right hand devil kill someone and didn’t the loan shark kill the ramen dweeb lol!!! Also plenty of regulars died on the 1st floor, Rachel/Endrossi/Ghost killed everyone in their 1st game LOL

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Lol Mule the test administrator couldn’t kill but didn’t the fake right hand devil kill someone and didn’t the loan shark kill the ramen dweeb lol!!! Also plenty of regulars died on the 1st floor, Rachel/Endrossi/Ghost killed everyone in their 1st game LOL

Lmao Dumas is a made up drawing and he doesn’t sit in his armor whereas Karaka is real being and sits in his armor thus why he has bled on occasion. Karaka’s armor is nothing like Dumas’

 

[Anne isn't a TT]

Lol Mule the test administrator couldn’t kill but didn’t the fake right hand devil kill someone and didn’t the loan shark kill the ramen dweeb lol!!! Also plenty of regulars died on the 1st floor, Rachel/Endrossi/Ghost killed everyone in their 1st game LOL

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Lmao Dumas is a made up drawing and he doesn’t sit in his armor whereas Karaka is real being and sits in his armor thus why he has bled on occasion. Karaka’s armor is nothing like Dumas’

At this point I am convinced Ur trolling. I have already explained the situation with love. As for regs dying in the hands of ghost is because quant made it survival/elimination game sth down the lines. It is within the rules to kill someone if they state elimination like we saw the first test on 2F.

As for the armour, I have no words to explain. Good luck.

 

[O_n_Sly]

All I’m saying is that Wangnang and Karaka are beyond exceptional beings( as Dumas stated). When Dumas’ heart stopped he still needed help to restart it, in all of AA’s instances he still needed outside help to revive. In Wangnang’s case he just rested for a few days and he was fine! White was even surprised how quickly he healed from the fatal injury he dealt to him in the HT!

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Karaka instantly regenerated when Yuri blew him up, using Dark world. Whether Dark world is an armor ability or his own that remains to be scene!

 

[Lonatian]

I don't really understand what people are arguing about.
But honestly there are some characters that we have to accept that they don't die because the author doesn't want them to.

 

[V_TheHiddenAxis]

There is a huge gulf of power between current yama and luslec. Whether yama will be able to reach luslec level which imo is low FH level of at least close to them is unlikely.

 

[maverickframe_19]

There is a huge gulf of power between current yama and luslec. Whether yama will be able to reach luslec level which imo is low FH level of at least close to them is unlikely.

Luslec would bitch slap Yama lol

 

[Kenneth Latorre]

??? Baam has been experimented on, Zahard Princesses have Zahard's blood and Beastkins are the result of Traumerei's experiments.

And Luslec has something that we have no idea off. Luslec is the one who has the feats right now. So I’ll hold him in higher regards to the others.

my personal opinion. Don’t care for yours.

 

[Demonspeed]

And Luslec has something that we have no idea off. Luslec is the one who has the feats right now. So I’ll hold him in higher regards to the others.

my personal opinion. Don’t care for yours.

You caring or not doesn't really matter. You are factually wrong since we have seen plenty of people who have been subjected to experiments.