I'll follow you into the dark

[xi0]

Re: The path to Heaven runs through miles of clouded Hell

Pretty much.

From what I've read online, most people said that JRPG is going downhill. I don't know where he read those reviews praising JRPG.

The Western gaming world pretty much minimizes most JRPGs for being uninspiring and not changing much in the last 25+ years in the way of gameplay. I mean, I guess that's true but they can still be good games...it's like people bashing Nintendo for being "kiddy"

That being said, there are a bunch of games in Japan that would never do well here. Things like Train Simulators, Dating Sims......so the cultural differences have to do with it too.

 

[riki]

Re: The path to Heaven runs through miles of clouded Hell

Pretty much.

I remembered reading a review for Tales of Graces f in the Playstation magazine and the reviewer was bashing it b/c it was similar to the previous games in the series (aka the setting). He wanted it to be futuristic like Mass Effect and I was thinking, "Really? If they did that, then it wouldn't be a Tales game!"

Don't forgot those crazy moe games like the big boobies ninja 3DS game (Senran Kagura). >.>

Luckily, Atlus, NISA, and XSeed still bring the niche games over here.

 

[xi0]

Re: The path to Heaven runs through miles of clouded Hell

Boobies


There's too much comparing games and not allowing them to be their own thing. The only Tales game I ever owned was Tales of Symphonia and I enjoyed it a lot...so I don't know. There's a constant requirement among critics for innovation, which is fine. But there isn't enough appreciation for what WORKS. That's why you see a lot of retro-inspired games since the internet and console gaming has become more intertwined. It's not really profitable to order pressings of all these games of course.

 

[riki]

Re: The path to Heaven runs through miles of clouded Hell

Yeah, the developer who made the game got the idea by thinking, "Hmm... what would I like to see in 3D? I know, BOOBIES!"

That's the problem I think game developers have. They want to draw more gamers to play their game, but at the same time, they don't want to risk alienating those who already play it. IIRC, that's why new games are harder to sell compared to video game sequels.

 

[xi0]

Re: The path to Heaven runs through miles of clouded Hell

Yeah and new games on the whole have less and less replayability and aren't as challenging

 

[Gats]

Re: The path to Heaven runs through miles of clouded Hell

The point here is story. Some franchise are famous for their particular gameplay so it's fine to (try to) keep what made them likeable in the first place.

I didn't play many japanese videogames but for me it seems that Mario and Zelda always have the exact same kind of story for example, and journalist doesn't seem to be annoyed by that while they seem to be more demanding with western's franchise. But yeah there are more and more bad review about japanese's game industry nowadays.

I've never played Bayonetta nor I have read its story so I don't get his reference.

Yeah and new games on the whole have less and less replayability and aren't as challenging

Problem is that a big majority of players don't finish their games. Even easy. So really it doesn't push the developpers to put much effort (even if I disagree with that kind of attitude).

The games from Steam (online distributor) are the extrem example, by selling so many games so cheap, people are buying shitload of them but don't even play more than a few.

 

[xi0]

Re: The path to Heaven runs through miles of clouded Hell

I doubt it has to do with people not completing games. It has more to do with wanting a larger audience and making the game more accessible IMO.



You can say whatever you want about Nintendo franchises. The fact remains is that the games are never bad or disappointing.

 

[Gats]

Re: The path to Heaven runs through miles of clouded Hell

I doubt it has to do with people not completing games. It has more to do with wanting a larger audience and making the game more accessible IMO.

I just said that it also has an influence. Anyway, both cases are linked. Larger audience also means bigger ratio of people not finishing the game despite making it more accessible.

You can say whatever you want about Nintendo franchises. The fact remains is that the games are never bad or disappointing.

I don't know why you're telling me that. It's not like I'm attacking it. The point is story. I didn't judge the overall quality of their games.

 

[xi0]

Re: The path to Heaven runs through miles of clouded Hell

Oh I didn't mean you specifically Gats, I meant the royal "you"

Big Lebowski reference...

In any case I should have said "they". The story is simplistic in most Nintendo games...the narrative isn't as detailed or multi-layered. But if that's done well (like in Zelda) that doesn't make it any less engrossing. I could say the same thing about Ico and Shadow of the Colossus even though they aren't Nintendo games. They're sort of in the same mold, despite not looking like a "Nintendo" game.

But I guess in the case of there maybe being a double-standard, it really comes down to gameplay.

 

[riki]

Re: The path to Heaven runs through miles of clouded Hell

^Pretty much. I think game play is the #1 factor. Story is mostly important in RPG though.

Anyway, I almost forgot about this work story.

6th Grade, Spec. Ed. Lang. Arts class

The students were reading a packet about skydiving and answering questions about it. One of the questions asked them to write at least 5 sentences on whether or not they would like to skydive.

Boy: *turning his packet in* I'm done.
Me: Let me check your paragraph first.
Me: *reading it* No, because I don't want to. I don't want to. I don't want to. I don't want to. I don't want to.

*handing it back*
Me: You need to redo it. I want the reasons WHY you don't want to go skydiving.
Boy: But I did! Why are you trying to torture me?

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Another story~

6th Grade, Sp. Ed. Lang. Arts class

I was going over an English packet with the students. We were reviewing silent letters in word (e.g. in "ghost", the h is silent).
Me: Okay, what is a seven letters word that starts with a "c" and ends with a silent "n"?
Girl: Oh, I know! Condom!
Everyone: Condom!?
Me: Do you mean "condemn"?
Girl: Yeah, that was what I meant.
Me: *thinking* I know what's in your mind.

 

[Farfalla]

Re: The path to Heaven runs through miles of clouded Hell

I need to join your classes, riki o.o

 

[riki]

Re: The path to Heaven runs through miles of clouded Hell

LOL You can if you want, but beware that the kids can be aggravating sometimes.

 

[Dried Ambrosia]

Re: The path to Heaven runs through miles of clouded Hell

come on...kids have the most beautiful creative minds....it's awesomely funny being around them...especially if you're a patient person





.....am I right Riki???

 

[riki]

Re: The path to Heaven runs through miles of clouded Hell

Not if they don't want to do their work

Oh, I almost forgot this story

The classroom was pretty cold. Unfortunately I couldn't find the thermostat to change the temp.
Boy: Man, it's cold in here!
Me: Sorry, but I can't find the thermostat. You'll just have to learn how to deal with it.
Boy: How?
Me: Use mind over matter. Tell yourself, "I'm not cold. I'm not cold" and you should be fine.
Girl: I'M FREEZING! I'M FREEZING! I'M FREEZING!
Me: Not like that!

Oh, I have nine pages for Ch. 7 right now

 

[goldb]

Re: The path to Heaven runs through miles of clouded Hell

 

[riki]

Re: The path to Heaven runs through miles of clouded Hell

Hey, goldb!

How's your trip so far? ^^

Oh, I met the long-term sub today so I was helping her out. The students, of course, noticed and decided to ask me about her.

Girl #1: Ms. N, who is that lady following you?
Me: She will be your new substitute teacher until [teacher's name] comes back.
Girl #2: Is she your daughter?
Me: What!? No, she's not. If that was so, then I would have her at a VERY young age.

 

[goldb]

Re: The path to Heaven runs through miles of clouded Hell

So many stories! "Condom"

I'm back from my trip now, but can't sleep cos I've travelled all day and my body can't gimme any more sleep

So there's a long-term sub for your class? why didn't they offer you the position since you're already covering? makes more sense...

 

[riki]

Re: The path to Heaven runs through miles of clouded Hell

How was the trip?

Yeah, they have a first-year teacher teach the class now. Luckily, I have another job today. ^^

 

[goldb]

Re: The path to Heaven runs through miles of clouded Hell

How was the trip?

Yeah, they have a first-year teacher teach the class now. Luckily, I have another job today. ^^

It was awesome, camped out a few nights, took in some amazing views and roadtripped for a few days. I really enjoyed the guys' company. Put up some pics on my FB if you wanna check em out~

Where did you work today?

 

[riki]

Re: The path to Heaven runs through miles of clouded Hell

At another middle school. I was a 7th grade intervention specialist today.

Oh, I now have 11.5 pages for Ch. 7. ^^