Discussion Jellal Fernandes Thread

[Ebony Maw]

I don't mind Btw, Jellal used GC three times in the manga, but only OS saw those misterious pillars. Natsu was beaten at the time and Neinheart was eem... Neinheart. Anyway, everytime Jellal uses this spell it looks cooler than before

Too true, if that's what GC did at Hargeon then I can't wait for Sema.

 

[EmberSpirit]

Too true, if that's what GC did at Hargeon then I can't wait for Sema.

Maybe a meteor rain now.

I wouldn't be surprised if August uses Abyss Break before Jellal.

 

[Ebony Maw]

Maybe a meteor rain now.

I wouldn't be surprised if August uses Abyss Break before Jellal.

I don't know how I'd react if August did that. What I'm really looking forward to is if Jellal (in his quest to end Zeref) has created a Zeref-busting spell, we know how much he prepares for things so it would surprise me.

 

[EmberSpirit]

I don't know how I'd react if August did that. What I'm really looking forward to is if Jellal (in his quest to end Zeref) has created a Zeref-busting spell, we know how much he prepares for things so it would surprise me.

Makarov said August can control every element. I will be disappointed if he can't use Abyss Break or a more complex combination of elements.
Jellal must be saving something for Zeref, but he won't be successful because Natsu or his team will defeat Zeref, so whatever. I'd rather see more heavenly body magic than a spell that will fail.

 

[Ice]

I'm sorry if this has been asked / discussed before, but what is the origin of the name Jellal? is it from Arabic? or?

 

[EmberSpirit]

I'm sorry if this has been asked / discussed before, but what is the origin of the name Jellal? is it from Arabic? or?

Arabic. It means greatness. An uncommon name (different version) in where I live.

 

[Ice]

Arabic. It means greatness. An uncommon name (different version) in where I live.

Oh so it is indeed Arabic? That's interesting. why does Jellal has a Portuguese surname then? sounds pretty random lol
Oh you meant that in Turkish Jellal has an other meaning?

 

[EmberSpirit]

Oh so it is indeed Arabic? That's interesting. why does Jellal has a Portuguese surname then? sounds pretty random lol
Oh you meant that in Turkish Jellal has an other meaning?

It's quite random. I am sure there isn't any thought put into it.
No, it has the same meaning and origin. Spelled differently, but pronounced the same.

 

[Skibbie]

hahaha, jellal below laxus? unlike jellal, laxus didn't even beat wahl with ease using red lightning
facts
1)red lightning completely ignores wahl's lightning "immunity"
2)laxus was already completely cured when he used RL
3)laxus was empowered after wahl attacked him with lightning.

then look at RL. We can see laxus' red lightning that's fully formed hit wahl's chest, and Wahl's still completely fine he was even talking like nothing's happened for pete's sake, laxus was only able to take down wahl when he gave more power to the attack hence his final dialogue saying o-oooooohh...

compared to jellal who easily dispatched a spriggan with nothing more than freaking casual spell, his grand chariot is nothing more than his version of dragon roar(GC and laxus' roar did identical damage to natsu in the earlier chapters).

i would've agreed that they were equal if laxus was able to thrash wahl as easily as jellal did, but that's not the case. i mean come on, laxus was already using his most impressive attack to date, plot already gave him a way to bypass the immunity, and he's still having trouble, and we're not even counting the fact that jellal took out a 100% healthy sprigg, while wahl already took multiple attacks from laxus.

then we have neinhart shitting his pants off the sight of jellal's rape face.

specially with jellal's earlier speed feat of blitzing 2 fodders before erza and kagura(who were directly lookign at the fodders) can even process what they see, and he wasn't even using meteor at that time.

 

[Brandish μ]

Neither RL or GC were performed casually. Both Jellal and Laxus are strong, but neither can casually kill a Spriggan.

I don't want to get into RL too much, this is a Jellal thread, but RL is quite controversial and has a few different interpretations of the situation.

Jellal's attack was straight forward, and essentially oneshotted Neinhart. It's likely a full-powered GC. It's comparable to Natsu's FDKM Demolishing Strike.

 

[Skibbie]

Neither RL or GC were performed casually. Both Jellal and Laxus are strong, but neither can casually kill a Spriggan.

I don't want to get into RL too much, this is a Jellal thread, but RL is quite controversial and has a few different interpretations of the situation.

Jellal's attack was straight forward, and essentially oneshotted Neinhart. It's likely a full-powered GC. It's comparable to Natsu's FDKM Demolishing Strike.

i said casual spell though, GC is a casual spell of jellal. him taking out an opponent with a mid-tier spell instead of using his ultimate moves is pretty casual to me.

 

[Brandish μ]

i said casual spell though, GC is a casual spell of jellal. him taking out an opponent with a mid-tier spell instead of using his ultimate moves is pretty casual to me.

I think GC is a mid tier offensive spell for Jellal, so that's just where we disagree. And the way Jellal did it, it was the first time GC took a little more time than usual. So I think he put more power into it that's all. I definitely agree he has better moves to come, like AB, Altairis and Sema. Compared to Laxus, RL might be his best spell.

 

[Skibbie]

I think GC is a mid tier offensive spell for Jellal, so that's just where we disagree. And the way Jellal did it, it was the first time GC took a little more time than usual. So I think he put more power into it that's all. I definitely agree he has better moves to come, like AB, Altairis and Sema. Compared to Laxus, RL might be his best spell.

i actually agree with you with the tier of the spell.

laxus took a spriggan out with his full powered high-tier spell, jellal replicated that with a full powered mid-tier spell, and from what we've seen a high-tier spell and mid-tier spell have big, i mean BIG gap in power, just look at the reaction of jura with the 2 spells seeing grand chariot he was still confident even had a smug/smirk on his face, seeing sema's mere aura alone had him shitting his pants.

that's why i think jellal's usage of mid-tier spell to take down a spriggan means alot when comparing laxus and jellal.

 

[Brandish μ]

i actually agree with you with the tier of the spell.

laxus took a spriggan out with his full powered high-tier spell, jellal replicated that with a full powered mid-tier spell, and from what we've seen a high-tier spell and mid-tier spell have big, i mean BIG gap in power, just look at the reaction of jura with the 2 spells seeing grand chariot he was still confident even had a smug/smirk on his face, seeing sema's mere aura alone had him shitting his pants.

that's why i think jellal's usage of mid-tier spell to take down a spriggan means alot when comparing laxus and jellal.

I am assuming Laxus' Dragon Slayer spells aren't much better than Red Lightning, or RL is the best spell he has.

Generally speaking I think they're about the same. But if I had to pick one above the other I'd go with Jellal, because of the hype with more spells to come. Plus if he fights Zeref which I think he will, Jellal should be stronger.

 

[Skibbie]

I am assuming Laxus' Dragon Slayer spells aren't much better than Red Lightning, or RL is the best spell he has.

Generally speaking I think they're about the same. But if I had to pick one above the other I'd go with Jellal, because of the hype with more spells to come. Plus if he fights Zeref which I think he will, Jellal should be stronger.

i think red lightning is one of his best spells i mean
1) the definition of it alone speaks high tier, a lightning that transcends lightning.
2) the flashback before the big spell trope
3)he was only able to utilize it after he was cured of the magicbarrier particles that was corrupting his magic, and after he was empowered by wahl's attack.

 

[Demon Hunter]

I would put them on the same level with Jellal having more spells. we have yet to see both of them going all out. Laxus probably won't fight anymore, considering that his organs are screwed and he is heavily injured. Wahl didn't empower Laxus. don't know where are you guys getting that.

 

[Skibbie]

I would put them on the same level with Jellal having more spells. we have yet to see both of them going all out. Laxus probably won't fight anymore, considering that his organs are screwed and he is heavily injured.

he went all out with wahl with a high tier spell at max power(which is equal to jellal's mid tier spell at max power)we have yet to see his max power high tier spell(like sema). that already speaks for itself in regards to who's stronger.

 

[Demon Hunter]

he went all out with wahl with a high tier spell at max power(which is equal to jellal's mid tier spell at max power)we have yet to see his max power high tier spell(like sema)

Red Lightning is probably some kind of a mode. I doubt that's his most powerful spell. Fairy Law is.

Sema is also not that strong.

 

[Skibbie]

Red Lightning is probably some kind of a mode. I doubt that's his most powerful spell. Fairy Law is.

Sema is also not that strong.

it was never suggested tho, it falls the same boat as jellal's true heavenly body magic which can also be a mode which jellal didn't need to take down a spriggan.if that's a mode then sema can also be a mode

compared to grand chariot it's waay stronger. jura's unfazed, confident and even had a smirk on his face when he saw grand chaeiot's power. where as when he saw sema's mere aura he's panicking and shitting his pants off.

also you're underrating sema, do you even know how big it actually is? it's one of the biggest abilities we've ever seen(not on the level of irene's Universe 1 tho)

here's the location of where it was used, it a canyon, and there's a couple of freaking mountains.

here's the explosion, where is the freaking canyon? the mountains on the previous page? you can;t see it because mashima had to make it zoom so far it it looked like flat. you can even freaking see the horizon curve(try using a ruler

 

[Demon Hunter]

it was never suggested tho, it falls the same boat as jellal's true heavenly body magic which can also be a mode which jellal didn't need to take down a spriggan.

compared to grand chariot it's waay stronger. jura's unfazed, confident and even had a smirk on his face when he saw grand chaeiot's power. where as when he saw sema's mere aura he's panicking and shitting his pants off.

also you're underrating grand chariot, do you even know how big it actually is?

here's the location of where it was used, it a canyon, and there's a couple of freaking mountains.


here's the explosion, where is the freaking canyon? the mountains on the previous page? you can;t see it because mashima had to make it zoom so far it it looked like flat. you can even freaking see the curve of the earth.

first, I don't underrate anything.

AoE means nothing. Sema's best feat was taking down OS who were hit by GC before that. they were still alive and conscious. its big but its damage is not that strong.

also, Laxus used Red Lightning to bypass Wahl's immunity. if Wahl wasn't immune then the match would have been over sooner, not to mention that his organs were still screwed even when he was healed.