Help [JP] The Official Kanji Ask-for-Help Thread

Asian Cait Sith

Registered User
初心者/ Shoshinsha / Beginner
Joined
Feb 21, 2010
Messages
7
Reaction score
1
Gender
Hidden
Country
Japan
Re: Looking for the right Kanji character(s).

自家改善 makes no sense unless your talking home improvement.

Some similar phrases to to [自己の向上]
自己を高める(jiko-wo-takameru)
自分を磨く(jibun-wo-migaku)
自己研鑽(Jiko-kensan)
 

GGrendel

Registered User
初心者/ Shoshinsha / Beginner
Joined
Apr 16, 2010
Messages
3
Reaction score
0
Gender
Male
Country
United States
Holyland v10 - Help reading a kanji

I can't make out a kanji in one of the pages, and I can't figure out what it might be from context either. Can anyone give me a hand?

Holyland, vol 10, pg 24, panel 3, lower right bubble.

どうやら[KANJI]のマトみたいっすよ

Any help would be appreciated!
Thanks.
 
Last edited:

Ju-da-su

Intl Translator
英雄メンバー / Eiyuu Menbaa / Hero Member
Joined
Jun 28, 2007
Messages
1,279
Reaction score
989
Age
36
Gender
Hidden
Country
Thailand
Re: Holyland v10 - Help reading a kanji

噂? .-.
 

GGrendel

Registered User
初心者/ Shoshinsha / Beginner
Joined
Apr 16, 2010
Messages
3
Reaction score
0
Gender
Male
Country
United States
Re: Holyland v10 - Help reading a kanji

Thanks for the help! I thought that couldn't be it, because I'm used to seeing 噂 written as
, but they're the same kanji (according to unicode).

Thanks again.
 

sparviero-92

Registered User
中級員 / Chuukyuuin / Member
Joined
Feb 28, 2010
Messages
194
Reaction score
704
Gender
Female
Country
Italy
Help with a kanji


"ほら ほら アレ@ はやく"
"お( 客?<--kanji I can't read) が待 ってます"

客doesn't really make sense to me, how would you translate it?

I need help with this little panel....:)
Can anyone give me a hand?

Thanks in advance!
 
Last edited by a moderator:

jamjamstyle

Artist
上級員 / Jyoukuuin / Sr. Member
Joined
Sep 3, 2008
Messages
470
Reaction score
1,827
Gender
Male
Country
North Pole
Re: Help with a kanji

ehm, correct me if i'm wrong.

お客 [Okyaku]

He's refering to a guest/visitor/customer. So in short, that panel should be:

B1) "Hey hey, hurry up Allen."

B2) "The customers are waiting." [masu points out that they're still waiting]
 
Last edited:

sparviero-92

Registered User
中級員 / Chuukyuuin / Member
Joined
Feb 28, 2010
Messages
194
Reaction score
704
Gender
Female
Country
Italy
Re: Help with a kanji

Thank you, I wasn't sure I read correctly that kanji, the quality of the image is not really good:)
 

AnarchyComicsInc

Registered User
初心者/ Shoshinsha / Beginner
Joined
Aug 16, 2010
Messages
7
Reaction score
0
Age
37
Gender
Male
Country
United States
Kanji Characters that appear in Mangas

does anyone know of a website where I can find a good source of them
 

saladesu

in absentia
有名人 / Yuumeijin / Celebrity
Joined
Jul 18, 2010
Messages
4,282
Reaction score
6,494
Age
34
Gender
Female
Country
Singapore
Re: Kanji Characters that appear in Mangas

Problem is, almost any kanji can appear in manga :/ Of course there are some that are generally more common, which can be found on the Jouyou kanji list. There were 1945 kanji on the list initially, but last year this number increased to 2136 (196 new kanji, some deletions). Most of the lists online are the 1945 one.

Depending on the genre of manga you read, you will probably also come across any number of weird kanji that you'll never see in your Japanese class or any kanji lists available on the net. The good thing about manga is that there is usually furigana so you can check a dictionary pretty easily :tem Alternatively you can check out this dictionary site that has a kanji search using kanji radicals. Very useful for when there is no furigana and you have no idea how the kanji is used/read :)
 

Asarii

MH Senpai
有名人 / Yuumeijin / Celebrity
Joined
May 2, 2010
Messages
2,927
Reaction score
1,962
Age
34
Gender
Female
Country
Canada
Re: Kanji Characters that appear in Mangas

Saladesu gave a good explanation. :) It's a good idea to have an elementary school level knowledge of kanji at least.

I'm sorry to say, AnarchyComicsInc, that there's no kanji exempt from manga. In seinen/josei, they expect the readers to have already learnt kanji from their last year of high school so there will be complex vocabulary in those series. There will be no furigana to seinen/josei series as well. It will be easier to read shounen/shoujo with its furigana and simpler vocabulary.

However, the good thing about kanji is that you can understand them... without being able to read them. If you know the bushu, you can have a general idea of what's being said.
 

cmertb

Translator
上級員 / Jyoukuuin / Sr. Member
Joined
Sep 18, 2009
Messages
416
Reaction score
206
Gender
Male
Country
United States
Re: The Official Kanji Ask-for-Help Thread


Someone please help me read the 4th kanji. I realize it's practically unreadable, but I'm hoping maybe with years of experience, by the overall feel, maybe someone can guess. What I have so far is 武蔵多?川
 

mikkih

Translator/Moderator
英雄メンバー / Eiyuu Menbaa / Hero Member
Joined
Feb 12, 2010
Messages
1,710
Reaction score
1,371
Gender
Female
Country
United States
Re: The Official Kanji Ask-for-Help Thread

武蔵多摩川
 

cmertb

Translator
上級員 / Jyoukuuin / Sr. Member
Joined
Sep 18, 2009
Messages
416
Reaction score
206
Gender
Male
Country
United States
Re: The Official Kanji Ask-for-Help Thread

mikkih, you're amazing as always. :)
 

Tokonatsu

Registered User
初心者/ Shoshinsha / Beginner
Joined
Feb 3, 2011
Messages
9
Reaction score
0
Age
36
Gender
Female
Country
United States
A little help with kanji, please?

Hello, and thanks for coming!

I'm working on my first translation and I've come across a person who uses advanced kanji like crazy! At one point the guy thinks to himself:

また反射だけの
卑屈な謝罪や
礼言いやがったら
鬱陶しいな…

Which looks like it's half gibberish to me! As far as I know, what he's thinking is something like a huffy/stuck up way of saying "jeez, this guy is so unthankful/pathetic" but that's just my guess...


And later on another character thinks to himself:

ここここここ
ここで死んだら
アッシュに
殺される

Which is really confusing to me. I know he's referring to a character named Asch, and there's a lot about death in there... So is he saying he's worried that Asch is going to kill him or something?


Thanks again for taking the time to read all that!
Any help would be much appreciated!!!
 

saladesu

in absentia
有名人 / Yuumeijin / Celebrity
Joined
Jul 18, 2010
Messages
4,282
Reaction score
6,494
Age
34
Gender
Female
Country
Singapore
Re: A little help with kanji, please?

また反射だけの
卑屈な謝罪や
礼言いやがったら
鬱陶しいな…
また反射だけの卑屈な謝罪礼言いやがったら鬱陶しいな…

Again Only Out of Reflex Servile Apologies And Expressions of Gratitude If Dislike Irritating Huh...

Also, it's irritating if you hate servile apologies and expressions of gratitude made only out of reflex, huh...

I think the "mata" here is to connect from the previous sentence.

ここここここ
ここで死んだら
アッシュに
殺される
ここここここここで死んだらアッシュに殺される

Here If Die By Ash Killed

I- I- I- I- I- If I die here, I'll get killed by Ash

Note that the "korosu" here is being used in the passive form :) The sentence kinda doesn't make sense (if I die, I get killed...?) but maybe it makes more sense in the context of the manga :s

I hope this helps :)
 

Tokonatsu

Registered User
初心者/ Shoshinsha / Beginner
Joined
Feb 3, 2011
Messages
9
Reaction score
0
Age
36
Gender
Female
Country
United States
Re: A little help with kanji, please?

Wow, thank you so much!!!

You really know your stuff! Lol, when I read the first guy's line I was like, "So that kanji is for pottery... wait, what??" 

I gotta say I love how you first translated it directly and then rearranged it after that, it's so much easier to understand now! I definitely need to work on being able to recognize the order of Japanese! >.<

And, I think the translations are perfect!
Even though the whole Asch killing him after he's dead thing sounds weird at first, in the context of the manga the guy's worried because he still hasn't completed the task Asch gave him, so I think he's just being overly dramatic by saying that...

Well anyway, thanks a bunch for the help! Have a nice day! :D
 

mikkih

Translator/Moderator
英雄メンバー / Eiyuu Menbaa / Hero Member
Joined
Feb 12, 2010
Messages
1,710
Reaction score
1,371
Gender
Female
Country
United States
Re: A little help with kanji, please?

Here is the transcript just in case you want to read them.

また はんしゃだけの mata hanshadakeno
ひくつな しゃざいや hikutsuna shazaiya
れい いいやがったら rei iiyagattara
うっとうしいな uttoushiina ....

Personally, 反射的に instead of 反射だけの would make the sentence sound more natural.
..................................................................
2nd part of 殺される (get killed) is not about killing.

"If I die here, Asch will kill me." means "If I die here, Asch will get mad at me."
 

Tokonatsu

Registered User
初心者/ Shoshinsha / Beginner
Joined
Feb 3, 2011
Messages
9
Reaction score
0
Age
36
Gender
Female
Country
United States
Re: A little help with kanji, please?

Thank you!
I have to admit I was using Google translate for that line and (as expected) now that I see how it's actually pronounced it was totally wrong in a bunch of places. >.<
Basically, what I've tweaked it around to now is this:

Once again,
it’s so
irritating if
you dislike
automatic
submissive
apologies
and shows of
gratitude,
huh...​

And thanks for clearing up the second guy's line! In context, either way works, but if that's what it literally means I'll go with that!
 

mikkih

Translator/Moderator
英雄メンバー / Eiyuu Menbaa / Hero Member
Joined
Feb 12, 2010
Messages
1,710
Reaction score
1,371
Gender
Female
Country
United States
Re: A little help with kanji, please?

(1) I was not paying attention to that DISLIKE part before. Would it be "いやがったら?" by an chance? If so, that is not it.

Standard form for "礼言いやがったら" is "礼を言ったら"
"言いやがったら" is just a rough way of saying "言ったら."

If s/he thanks (me/us e.t.c.)
If s/he shows gratitude

(2) I would just translate as is: "If I die here, Asch will kill me." You don't need to change the translation to "get mad at ..."
 

Tokonatsu

Registered User
初心者/ Shoshinsha / Beginner
Joined
Feb 3, 2011
Messages
9
Reaction score
0
Age
36
Gender
Female
Country
United States
Re: A little help with kanji, please?

Argh! Jeez, I need some more practice... DX

Now that you mention it, that's obviously what it means!
The guy who is speaking has always been peeved about how pathetic the guy he's talking about is. And since in the scene he accidentally scared the guy, I think he's basically thinking, "man I hate how wussy this dude is..."

Wow, I can't thank you enough for how helpful you've been!!!
 
Top