Kimetsu no Yaiba Chapter 196 Spoiler/Discussion Thread

[levi12]

I would say that the risk is minimal, in a thousand years from what we know only Muzan has taken advantage of it ....

However, I really hope that Tamayo's poison doesn't do all the work and that at least all the characters left contribute to Muzan's defeat.

Hopefully Pillars,Zen,Inosuke and Kanao join the fight

 

[Franz]

Hopefully Pillars,Zen,Inosuke and Kanao join the fight

Especially Zenitsu, because Inosuke and Kanao who beat a higher moon are fine, but that Zenitsu's last fight must be against Kaigaku I don't really like it as a choice.

 

[levi12]

Especially Zenitsu, because Inosuke and Kanao who beat a higher moon are fine, but that Zenitsu's last fight must be against Kaigaku I don't really like it as a choice.

Well too be honest Kanao and Obanai deserve far more. How many timescreen do they even have?

Zen have multiple battle and timescreen. Kanao and obanai deserve more they have little timescreen.

Kanao deserves far more.

 

[Franz]

Well too be honest Kanao and Obanai deserve far more. How many timescreen even have

Kanao avenged the death of the older sisters by beating the third demon by force (just as Inosuke avenged the death of his mother), I would say that's enough.

 

[levi12]

Kanao avenged the death of the older sisters by beating the third demon by force (just as Inosuke avenged the death of his mother), I would say that's enough.

Her Timescreen is still small she needs far more for me personally.

 

[Laminariales]

So shinazugawa upper body was squashed under rubble, between iguro's face and tomioka's arm I hope scar man is ok

Not sure if someone already point it out or not, but in chapter 146 when zenitsu is talking with is gramps, the flowers that's tangling with his feet has the same design as teh blue spider lily in ch 127. So maybe that blue spider lily is something that only grews in afterlife (whi the hell is the doctor to get them thought...), hence make him imortal or something.

Well I didn't check the colored chapter (although mind you they are inconsistent) but these were most likely good old normal red spider lily, it's broad topic but they are just associated with death.

remember, muzan said the medicine is just in the experimental phase. my theory is that, the reason why muzan cant find the spiderlily is because it is in another country. what if there is another muzan in the far away lands? example, since its in the heian period at that time what if the bluespiderlily is the emperor's long awaited elixir of immortality? yes, only muzan's demon group will disappear. proof? there's yushiro. and yushiro didnt even vanish when tamayo died. so its possible to create demons that can sustain on their own. thus, demonslayers will always have something to do as long as the bluespiderlily is around

It's worth a thought, about yushiro he's a demon made by tamayo who is made by muzan, but unlike nezuko still survives my drinking blood which makes him consumer of humans, his fate is still vague, maybe you're right and he's completely unrelated to muzan, or there is still a link and he'll die with muzan death. Or leaving the question open tell the end, he might just watch the sunrise after everything and choose to die, or drink human returning drug....hm his fate is interesting

I don't have anything to add on blue spider lilies, it's too vague a concept, is it an ingredient? just the drug name? marketing? Idk. muzan said there is no need for it now that nezuko overcame the sun the only way it's related is on how did nezuko overcome the sun or why was she different in the first place

I personally don't think she'll introduce new characters and completely new storyline, too many reasons.

 

[blood_raven]

Not sure if someone already point it out or not, but in chapter 146 when zenitsu is talking with is gramps, the flowers that's tangling with his feet has the same design as teh blue spider lily in ch 127. So maybe that blue spider lily is something that only grews in afterlife (whi the hell is the doctor to get them thought...), hence make him imortal or something.

That's the original spider lilly (the red ones), suposedly. The legends in japan say they grow in the borders of Senzu River.

 

[Shadowlord123]

It's kind of disappointing to some extent that we'll never see Muzan fight at his best, since it doesn't look like he will recover from this. The only alternative he had to recover was, in my eyes, to eat Nezuko and experience a power up, just like Cars from Jojo, but considering how Nezuko is more human than demon now, the possibilities for that to happen are almost zero.

 

[tanjirooo]

Demon Slayer chapter 196 in English is out guys!
I read it on https://kimetsu-noyaiba-manga.com/manga/demon-slayer-kimetsu-no-yaiba-chapter-196/
however the last to 2 or 3 pages aren't translated

 

[Samael Morningstar]

If the series continues and has another villain after Muzan, then I don't see KnY's sales being as high as they are now

 

[levi12]

If the series continues and has another villain after Muzan, then I don't see KnY's sales being as high as they are now

That depends on what ideas and creativity Gotouge can pull.

If the same as Boruto creator and Fairy tail sequel creators,yep I agree sales will drop.

 

[Hindsight_20/20]

Ummm.... doesn't it seem like this "drug" has too many effects? I don't mean that it its too OP or something, but usually to achieve more than one effect you would need more than one drug and one dose. Muzan having a reaction like he just ate the whole medicine cabinet makes me think something isn't adding up. I have a suspicion that there is a twist.

Tanjiro provided Tamayo with three sources of blood; LM6, UM6, and Nezuko. While potent samples, I don't think that they would provide an accurate map in the creation of this one super drug to achieve so many effects on Muzan if his own biology were a mystery to them up to this point (the many brains and hearts). In fact I think its similar to what Yushiro did to Nakime (UP4) in manipulating her sight.

Maybe its a stretch, but is it possible that the effect of the drug has something to do with Tamayo's own blood art? Its like a truth serum right, so what if its making the effects real in his mind as a way that he subconciously aknowledges his greatest fears (aging, dying, decaying). Not to mention, how is it possible for Tamayo to materialize in Muzan's head again if he was able to summon her and banish her genetic memories at will only a couple of chapters ago.

 

[XXGenesis]

/ at that last panel.
Well I greatly appreciated this series. It seems it's pretty damn hard to end a story. Many works of fiction suffer from this..but hey the UM fights were awesome. Muzan vs Pillars was boring at 1st, got exciting after the flashback and has become flat with Tanjiro's return and unlimited drug works.

 

[kkck]

Ummm.... doesn't it seem like this "drug" has too many effects? I don't mean that it its too OP or something, but usually to achieve more than one effect you would need more than one drug and one dose. Muzan having a reaction like he just ate the whole medicine cabinet makes me think something isn't adding up. I have a suspicion that there is a twist.

Tanjiro provided Tamayo with three sources of blood; LM6, UM6, and Nezuko. While potent samples, I don't think that they would provide an accurate map in the creation of this one super drug to achieve so many effects on Muzan if his own biology were a mystery to them up to this point (the many brains and hearts). In fact I think its similar to what Yushiro did to Nakime (UP4) in manipulating her sight.

Maybe its a stretch, but is it possible that the effect of the drug has something to do with Tamayo's own blood art? Its like a truth serum right, so what if its making the effects real in his mind as a way that he subconciously aknowledges his greatest fears (aging, dying, decaying). Not to mention, how is it possible for Tamayo to materialize in Muzan's head again if he was able to summon her and banish her genetic memories at will only a couple of chapters ago.

The drug does have too many effects and it absolutely means it is too OP. Add to that, the drug basically forces muzan to age.... Which I would understand to mean muzan's body has sort of gone through 10k years worth of biological nonsense. And the drug still somehow persists within it. It's so absurd i am not sure if aging that much within such a short timespan should result in muzan having already caught on fire from within.

I propose an alternate theory to explain this nonsense though: The drug is a red herring for muzan. he was injected with something and it is affecting him but in reality what is screwing him up isn't only the drug but also tamayo. Tamayo is a demon and a fairly powerful one in her own way, along with being exceptionally intelligent. so when she was consumed by muzan she got a chance to become a part of him and is actively screwing him over. And when muzan goes to check she merely gives him more red herrings to deal with and screw with his mind. It makes more sense than her wonder drug at least.

 

[Laminariales]

Ummm.... doesn't it seem like this "drug" has too many effects? I don't mean that it its too OP or something, but usually to achieve more than one effect you would need more than one drug and one dose. Muzan having a reaction like he just ate the whole medicine cabinet makes me think something isn't adding up. I have a suspicion that there is a twist.

Tanjiro provided Tamayo with three sources of blood; LM6, UM6, and Nezuko. While potent samples, I don't think that they would provide an accurate map in the creation of this one super drug to achieve so many effects on Muzan if his own biology were a mystery to them up to this point (the many brains and hearts). In fact I think its similar to what Yushiro did to Nakime (UP4) in manipulating her sight.

Maybe its a stretch, but is it possible that the effect of the drug has something to do with Tamayo's own blood art? Its like a truth serum right, so what if its making the effects real in his mind as a way that he subconciously aknowledges his greatest fears (aging, dying, decaying). Not to mention, how is it possible for Tamayo to materialize in Muzan's head again if he was able to summon her and banish her genetic memories at will only a couple of chapters ago.

They are 4 separate drugs,

Don't ruin your reading experience guys If you can't read the jp, chinese, or Korean Edited Mangas I highly suggest waiting, don't read google translate eng either that's a headache.

And are people seriously thinking the fight is ending :P

 

[Aeneas]

And are people seriously thinking the fight is ending :P

I really hope it is.

 

[Taska]

If the series continues and has another villain after Muzan, then I don't see KnY's sales being as high as they are now

I'm pretty sure this is the finale. In the beginning protagonist had two goals : 1)Find out, who is responsible for what happened to his family and to deal with them and 2) To make his sister human again. Nezuko is fully human again, at the very least she is definitely going to be one by the #sunrise, and Muzan, so far the ultimate villain of the series, is pushed to the corner and almost killed. No hint of a potential new villain has been revealed so far and it is a bit to late to do so.

There is NO way this is not the end of the series. Muzan is going to die, once and for all, Tanjirou may/may not survive this battle, about the rest of the cast they either live happily ever after until they turn 25, or somehow with Muzan's death, the limit is gone and they continue to live past 25 (which would be great, please Gotouge, do this)
That's it, there is nothing else to do, it's a good moment to finish the manga, there is no point to continue it.

 

[-Stray]

I swear to God if Muzan pulls a King Piccolo here and spits a Muzan Jr....
That being said things are going way too much in their favor and I don't like it. I do not like the final boss going down like this.

 

[Jaiden11]

I swear to God if Muzan pulls a King Piccolo here and spits a Muzan Jr....
That being said things are going way too much in their favor and I don't like it. I do not like the final boss going down like this.

I mean yeah that would be bullshit but I don't consider this being in their favour. Tanjirou will probably die. Inosuke and Zenitsu look pretty bad. Giyuu lost and arm Sanemi got crushed by rubble, Himejima lost a leg, Iguro got his eyes slashed, Kanroji is close to death and 3 people have died

 

[levi12]

Seems Like Muzan never had intention to kill Tanjiro family and Nezuko. he wants to turn them into demons.

Was he aware they were Kamado family. Thats unknown but probably not as None of had hanafuda earrings

But considering he had attempt to kill Tanjiro the moment he saw earrings. It would be worse if Tanjiro was there with his family. He would kill Everyone without attempting to turn anyone into a demon.