Fantasy Kyria vs Jacob

[WoWfan]

Yes they were, you just refused to admit it, does not matter when Kyria could not even injure Jellal, yet Neinhart could one shot him with a weaker attack. At this point, she is even weaker than above prime Makarov. Her hard counter is based on hax, not actual stats. He still defeats her regardless. He did since he could touch Bloodman before and he even tanked his blows, even blocked them, that means Gajeel is not on the same level. Well since you use irrelevant information to support nonsense, why not. Size does not matter, it is still a legit attacks from Natsu and Jacob was holding back. Ignia is simply stronger, but his flames have hax behind them

 

[Axiomus]

Yes they were, you just refused to admit it, does not matter when Kyria could not even injure Jellal, yet Neinhart could one shot him with a weaker attack. At this point, she is even weaker than above prime Makarov. Her hard counter is based on hax, not actual stats. He still defeats her regardless.

Kyria not being able to injure Jellal doesn't change anything. Kyria being weaker than Makarov also doesn't change anything, as Makarov also has better attack power than Jacob. Neinhart has far better attack power than Jacob too. At the end of the day, Kyria's attacks do more damage than Jacob's, and she hard counters his bladed weapons. Again:

 

[WoWfan]

It does, it makes a huge difference, no he does not as his speciality is hax, All he had was one attack spell before his enchantment, that’s it. It does, because Makarov is weaker than Jacob and did not even injure him, and above peak Makarove went down in one hit from an attack weaker than the one that took out an already inconvenience Jacob. Damage means nothing if they actually scale to it, which Kyria does not as she scales to Madmole who scales to no magic Natsu. The cuts are there as blood was drawn, it is not a whip, but some sort of bladed weapon

 

[Demon Hunter]

Kyria not being able to injure Jellal doesn't change anything. Kyria being weaker than Makarov also doesn't change anything, as Makarov also has better attack power than Jacob. Neinhart has far better attack power than Jacob too. At the end of the day, Kyria's attacks do more damage than Jacob's, and she hard counters his bladed weapons. Again:

my man @Axiomus created this nice "paragraph"

but people refuse to listen

@August_Lightning its Axiomus vs Jacob now

 

[WoWfan]

It is not a matter of listen, it is comprehension of the full picture and in-depth analysis

 

[Axiomus]

@August_Lightning its Axiomus vs Jacob now

Take away magic and have Jacob meet me on the mats, and I'll expose his CQC skill too.

It does, it makes a huge difference, no he does not as his speciality is hax, All he had was one attack spell before his enchantment, that’s it. It does, because Makarov is weaker than Jacob and did not even injure him, and above peak Makarove went down in one hit from an attack weaker than the one that took out an already inconvenience Jacob. Damage means nothing if they actually scale to it, which Kyria does not. The cuts are there as blood was drawn, it is not a whip, but some sort of bladed weapon

Doesn't make a difference at all if Kyria can't hurt Jellal, as Jacob can't hurt Jellal either. The attack power of every one of Neinhart's historia is his attack power. He has the attack power of Hades, God Serena, Wall, Bloodman, Azuma, Kyouka, Ezel, and Zancrow combined. Just Kyouka's historia would give him better attack power than Jacob tbh.

Kyria's attack still do more damage than Jacob's when used against the same opponents.

 

[WoWfan]

Yes he can as Neinhart has proven, even Jacob is much better at combat, no, the Attack power of every Historia besides the Spriggan Historia are their own, as the latter are so stronger that they are weaker than the original. Kyoka is weaker though. It is irrelevant as Kyria is not even strong when she went could not down someone that a Spriggan could.

it’s called transitive property

 

[Axiomus]

Yes he can as Neinhart has proven, even Jacob is much better at combat, no, the Attack power of every Historia besides the Spriggan Historia are their own, as the latter are so stronger that they are weaker than the original. Kyoka is weaker though. It is irrelevant as Kyria is not even strong when she went could not down someone that a Spriggan could.

Jacob is much better at combat than Neinhart. That explains how Jacob left Erza in a bloody mess, right? Oh wait....That was Neinhart. Historia are literally Neinhart's magic. Their attack power is Neinhart's attack power.

The day has come when Jacob needs to steal feats off Neinhart because he can't actually do any damage to Lucy.

 

[WoWfan]

Well since Jacob is relatively above Ajeel and even almost defeated Erza, since he is considered one of the weakest of the Spriggans makes sense, thanks for providing that.

 

[Verter]

Well, sequel said Ajeel and Jacob defeated Neinheart and Invel (in their uprising).

So Ajeel and Jacob should be stronger then Neinheart.

 

[Axiomus]

Well, sequel said Ajeel and Jacob defeated Neinheart and Invel (in their uprising).

So Ajeel and Jacob should be stronger then Neinheart.

The Spriggans also had Brandish. Also, obviously Jacob can beat people if he can actually transport them. Which he can't in this thread, as per the OP's rules.

Well since Jacob is relatively above Ajeel and even almost defeated Erza, since he is considered one of the weakest of the Spriggans makes sense, thanks for providing that.

How is Jacob stronger than Ajeel in attack power?

 

[WoWfan]

the fact that they are alive means he did not use Transport on them, and because Ajeel is not the strongest Spriggan, and that means his stats are above his

 

[Verter]

How is Jacob stronger than Ajeel in attack power?

Jacob still has stealth and aura concealment. I didnt notice any OP detection skills with Kyria.
So, for Jacob it technically easy assassinate someone with such not strong defence like Kyria.

 

[WoWfan]

Jacob still has stealth and aura concealment. I didnt notice any OP detection skills with Kyria.
So, for Jacob it technically easy assassinate someone with such not strong defence like Kyria.

Or snap their neck

 

[Axiomus]

Jacob still has stealth and aura concealment. I didnt notice any OP detection skills with Kyria.
So, for Jacob it technically easy assassinate someone with such not strong defence like Kyria.

Stealth makes him invisible, but it still doesn't make his attack power any more impressive. Jacob landed like 20 hits against Lucy in stealth. It did nothing significant. Kyria is able to take Erza's swords with her bare skin.

the fact that they are alive means he did not use Transport on them, and because Ajeel is not the strongest Spriggan, and that means his stats are above his

All of Fairy Tail is alive, and Jacob used transport on all of them. Invel and Neinhart being alive doesn't really proof anything. Ajeel not being the strongest Spriggan doesn't mean Jacob is stronger than him. August and Irene were the strongest Spriggans, and Ajeel has better feats than Jacob in terms of attack power and durability.

In any case, none of this matters, as Jacob still hasn't shown better attack power than Kyria.

 

[WoWfan]

FT was alive because ucy got them out, they would have died anyway if they had stayed there any longer. It really does because Transport would have contradicted how things went down. Well the story And statement says otherwise so there you go, Kyria is still weaker than Neinhart since she could not even scratch Jellal and Neinhart one shot him

 

[Verter]

Stealth makes him invisible, but it still doesn't make his attack power any more impressive. Jacob landed like 20 hits against Lucy in stealth. It did nothing significant. Kyria is able to take Erza's swords with her bare skin.

We may talk about it for a long time.

Larcade stopped Archenemy with single finger (bare finger). At same type Archenemy is powerful enough to cut entire hill and wound Erza.

So, let's continue that logic. Larcade with one finger stopped attack which is pretty enough to wound Erza -> Kyria should be instantly defeated with mere appearance of Larcade, right ?

 

[grey matter]

Guys, why are we arguing physics of all things in this series?

By any logic, Brandish "shrinking" a city size island to pea size completely throws it out of the window lol. It directly violates conservation of mass. (Brandish can 'hold them' in her arms)

Also, there is no separate physics and chemistry. It's all physics when we break it down anyway

 

[Axiomus]

FT was alive because ucy got them out, they would have died anyway if they had stayed there any longer. It really does because Transport would have contradicted how things went down. Well the story And statement says otherwise so there you go, Kyria is still weaker than Neinhart since she could not even scratch Jellal and Neinhart one shot him

Jacob can simply release people like he did with Marin and Brandish. He doesn't have to kill them. Also, we don't know what went down in the arrest. For all we know, they could have simply slapped anti-magic handcuffs on them in their sleep.

Jacob's feats still don't stack up to Kyria's, or Neinhart's for that matter.

Also, are you implying Jacob can oneshot Jellal? Lmao. I'm done here.

 

[WoWfan]

Actually, it is a form of transformation and influence mass, it is not like there wasn’t science in FT before.

but that is not the same as defeating them as they were still fine afterward, I highly doubt that they could have done it in their sleep when they were in the process of a coup, Jacob’s are bettter as he can cut people to pieces and Kyria cannot, and she cannot hurt Jellal but Neinhart one shots,

by transitive properties, he could, well goodbye Ax