Who wins in this battle?

  • Laxus

  • Zeref

  • Draw


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Starting Distance: 130 m.


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Zeref One Shots laxus.
 

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One shot, I think not, two shot, very likely.
Zeref > Laxus
 

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I don't think Zeref needs his death wave from the Ankhseram curse, so I'm ruling that out (he'd need a contradictory condition for it work).

I reckon Zeref's dark magic could be tanked once or twice at the most, and evaded that many times. IgNatsu could burn it up - this is something Laxus is not capable of.

I doubt Zeref wants to waste his time with Laxus so he'd go for something sufficient straight away. I'd back Zeref to be able to oneshot with a strong spell, though he won't be able to do something like Acnologia.

Zeref low diff.
 

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I don't think Zeref needs his death wave from the Ankhseram curse, so I'm ruling that out (he'd need a contradictory condition for it work).

I reckon Zeref's dark magic could be tanked once or twice at the most, and evaded that many times. IgNatsu could burn it up - this is something Laxus is not capable of.

I doubt Zeref wants to waste his time with Laxus so he'd go for something sufficient straight away. I'd back Zeref to be able to oneshot with a strong spell, though he won't be able to do something like Acnologia.

Zeref low diff.
If You remember Zeref was very angryat Precht He One Shotted him.If He is That angry He may One Shot him.
 

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If You remember Zeref was very angryat Precht He One Shotted him.If He is That angry He may One Shot him.
Yea I think something like that could defeat Laxus one go. Whether Laxus just sits on a chair and gets hit by it is another thing. EDIT: The starting distance of 130m should be enough for Zeref to prep a huge spell.

I have criteria for a oneshot when I say it in a thread. The spell has to not only be powerful enough to win in one go, it has to be quick and easy to perform. Acnologia is the only person who I can definitely see one-shotting, because that arm swipe of his can rip Laxus and is very quick. I don't think Zeref's shown enough offensive power for it to be a simple oneshot, but I also don't doubt he's got something that can.
 
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If You remember Zeref was very angryat Precht He One Shotted him.If He is That angry He may One Shot him.
And he one shot him, without using his curse thats whats more frightening.
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Yea I think something like that could defeat Laxus one go. Whether Laxus just sits on a chair and gets hit by it is another thing.

I have criteria for a oneshot when I say it in a thread. The spell has to not only be powerful enough to win in one go, it has to be quick and easy to perform. Acnologia is the only person who I can definitely see one-shotting, because that arm swipe of his can rip Laxus and is very quick. I don't think Zeref's shown enough offensive power for it to be a simple oneshot, but I also don't doubt he's got something that can.
His curse should one shot Laxus, the guy´s even weakened with anti-magic particles.
 

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His curse should one shot Laxus, the guy´s even weakened with anti-magic particles.
Definitely, though I'm not sure if Zeref would be in the required state of mind, which is why I ruled it out.
 

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Definitely, though I'm not sure if Zeref would be in the required state of mind, which is why I ruled it out.
It depends a lot, fights with Zeref can never last too long in a fight case there´s the possibility of him unleashing his curse out of nowhere and remember in Tenroujima arc when he tried to keep calm for years upon years only to use up his curse again 2 times in the spam of a single day case people tried to fight him and force him to do stuff he didnt want?
Also I think Zeref can do a decent number of spells himself, (probably way more than Jellal (and some like Abyss break too)), I wonder what was the magic he had before he got the curse and all.
But eitherway, Laxus cant eat anything thats not lightning, and even if he pulled a Natsu and tried to eat another element, he wouldnt be able to eat the other magic elements Zeref can pull afterwards, it´s gonna turn into the whole August vs Natsu, or God Serena vs the other 7 dragon slayers, where the winner should always be the one with more quality and high magic power (Zeref might have infinite magic power), so he automatically wins by default against Laxus.

In matter of fact, Zeref will one shot Laxus eitherway, really, either he loses his cool and finishes him off with the curse, or he goes full cold-blooded and uses his stronger spells to face Laxus (which he might still have in store for his future fights).
 
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It depends a lot, fights with Zeref can never last too long in a fight case there´s the possibility of him unleashing his curse out of nowhere and remember in Tenroujima arc when he tried to keep calm for years upon years only to use up his curse again 2 times in the spam of a single day case people tried to fight him and force him to do stuff he didnt want.
Also I think Zeref can do a decent number of spells himself, (probably way more than Jellal (and some like Abyss break too)), I wonder what was the magic he had before he got the curse and all.
I think with the curse, he'd need some kind of condition where he values life greatly for the curse to work. Now at least, he seems like he's good with genocide, so the curse isn't taking lives. On Tenrou, correct me if I am wrong, but he was trying to stay away from humans. Once there was human contact, and he saw Natsu, the curse acted up again.

Zeref is a legend of black magic, and the standard for August' hype is that he might know more than Zeref. So I do believe he knows more magic than anyone apart from August. My guess is dark/black magic is the magic he had the strongest affinity for, but with great talent, he could learn a lot of magic.
 

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I think with the curse, he'd need some kind of condition where he values life greatly for the curse to work. Now at least, he seems like he's good with genocide, so the curse isn't taking lives. On Tenrou, correct me if I am wrong, but he was trying to stay away from humans. Once there was human contact, and he saw Natsu, the curse acted up again.

Zeref is a legend of black magic, and the standard for August' hype is that he might know more than Zeref. So I do believe he knows more magic than anyone apart from August. My guess is dark/black magic is the magic he had the strongest affinity for, but with great talent, he could learn a lot of magic.
It´s also likely the Ankseram curse might have given Zeref other advantages in using magic, like lets say using forbidden magic, that does a toll on his body, since he´s imortal he can spam it (specially if he has unlimited magic), which would make fights with him one sided, there´s also that whole thing about the "etherias" research he did, he could have unlocked some sort of OP magics from that (oh yeah and there´s the possibility he could summon the 16 gods too).

I guess him using dark magic seems his standard and that means he has access to spells like Genesis zero, etc... if he could do spells from his demonic creations, I wouldnt be too surprised either, he created them himself afterall.
 

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It´s also likely the Ankseram curse might have given Zeref other advantages in using magic, like lets say using forbidden magic, that does a toll on his body, since he´s imortal he can spam it (specially if he has unlimited magic), which would make fights with him one sided, there´s also that whole thing about the "etherias" research he did, he could have unlocked some sort of OP magics from that (oh yeah and there´s the possibility he could summon the 16 gods too).

I guess him using dark magic seems his standard and that means he has access to spells like Genesis zero, etc... if he could do spells from his demonic creations, I wouldnt be too surprised either, he created them himself afterall.
Those are possible under the curse. And the longevity it provides. We'll probably find out when he fights someone who isn't capable of burning his magic up using Igneel level flames.
 

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It´s also likely the Ankseram curse might have given Zeref other advantages in using magic, like lets say using forbidden magic, that does a toll on his body, since he´s imortal he can spam it (specially if he has unlimited magic), which would make fights with him one sided, there´s also that whole thing about the "etherias" research he did, he could have unlocked some sort of OP magics from that (oh yeah and there´s the possibility he could summon the 16 gods too).

I guess him using dark magic seems his standard and that means he has access to spells like Genesis zero, etc... if he could do spells from his demonic creations, I wouldnt be too surprised either, he created them himself afterall.
Those are possible under the curse. And the longevity it provides. We'll probably find out when he fights someone who isn't capable of burning his magic up using Igneel level flames.
There is a possibility that Zeref knows Thunder Magic.After all he taught Yuri Thunder Magic.We have never seen Zeref serious and blood thirsty on screen except for killing of Precht.Even while his battle with Natsu he was smiling and at last gave up all opposition.After that battle Zeref having Red Eyes.Zeref is now serious and blood thirsty.If any one fights him now he/she will be One Shotted and killed.
 

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There is a possibility that Zeref knows Thunder Magic.After all he taught Yuri Thunder Magic.We have never seen Zeref serious and blood thirsty on screen except for killing of Precht.Even while his battle with Natsu he was smiling and at last gave up all opposition.After that battle Zeref having Red Eyes.Zeref is now serious and blood thirsty.If any one fights him now he/she will be One Shotted and killed.
He was definitely not blood-lusted against IgNatsu but it wouldn't have mattered I believe, his magic is just not strong enough for Igneel's power.

Zeref's likely to be defeated, and I'm tipping Mavis, Natsu, Lucy and Jellal are the main players, and in that order. I also give Zeref no chance in a battle against Acnologia unless the Fairy Heart plan is successful.
 

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He was definitely not blood-lusted against IgNatsu but it wouldn't have mattered I believe, his magic is just not strong enough for Igneel's power.

Zeref's likely to be defeated, and I'm tipping Mavis, Natsu, Lucy and Jellal are the main players, and in that order. I also give Zeref no chance in a battle against Acnologia unless the Fairy Heart plan is successful.
Or may be END will play a role.
 

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OP, why did you think this was a good idea?:oh
Laxus doesn't have the Flames of the Fire King capable of even killing the Immortal nor does he have the Thundering strikes of Zeus at his disposal. You've created an Insourmountable challenge for Laxus.
 

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OP, why did you think this was a good idea?:oh
Laxus doesn't have the Flames of the Fire King capable of even killing the Immortal nor does he have the Thundering strikes of Zeus at his disposal. You've created an Insourmountable challenge for Laxus.

I actually didn't think it was a good idea. I'm just seeing where people gauge Laxus' power compared to Zeref. Seeing who people pick to win and at what difficulty tells a lot about the power gap between Zeref and Laxus.

I didn't really have any intention for Laxus to win this one.
 

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To my knowledge a VS thread can contain 2 participants where 1 is definitely going to win easily. Laxus has the best physical toughness of the humans by feats (not including Acnologia or Zeref), so using him as a test against a Zeref-level person is quite reasonable for, as @Nemispelled said, to see the difference in their abilities. IgNatsu and Acnologia are the only people I'd say have better offensive power than Zeref. August is possible but unlikely. After August is probably Natsu and Laxus.
 

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Zeref one-shots Laxus, no debate there.
 

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Lmao who voted for Laxus.
 
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