Games Mafia Game 100 - End Game

Shad · Feb 22, 2022

GrySun said:
Mafia can defend a townie to pocket them(or be in their pocket, forgot the correct usage of the term), so your actions speak little for Sam. He did switch off of you so that was my main consideration to vote him, but not because of any weird text you said.

How do past games matter? You telling me you have this code where you never vote last even if your Mason buddy is being lynched and you could save them? Because that‘s about how hard you were believing in Sam yesterday. But maybe I just don‘t get you.

I had no reason to vote since he was at 4 vs 3 unless you don't know how math work, that should be obvious why I don't need to make a move in this situation.
You on the other hand you been voting me since Day 1, you said Day 1 that you are being liberal with your vote when voting me.

Day 2 I didn't see you give a reason, to me it just look like you are trying to waste your vote everyday by sticking on me so that you don't have to actually vote.

GrySun · Feb 22, 2022

Ah I think I get what Farf is trying to say. By giving mafia the potato they have some more control and agency over the game than if it‘s being passed from townies.

Farfalla said:
Since it didn't explode in N1, I'm with you and James - so far - and also think it could have been set to start with a townie.

On the other hand, since there's a chance this might kill a mafia, I think it's another indication we have 'off radar' mafia help in game.
2/7 vanillas are gone and weren't sleepers (they do die as "sleeper" right? don't recall) and Pirate looks interesting but also odd in the setup, so wondering if it could be the traitor working to not only serve the mafia number-wise but also with the ability to weak town a bit if he/she is lucky enough. So I'd trust the potato holder (DD) more than a Pirate we find out about later on (just my cents for future record).

Yes they‘d die Sleeper.

And it didn‘t cross my mind at all that the Traitor could be on an active role :hmm

Only thought it‘d be a vanilla and the actives are our confirmed players. Interesting, and possible. Though so far I still see Pirate as our 1-shot Detective of sorts so it‘s not as weird, but will keep that in mind.

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Farfalla said:
Since it didn't explode in N1, I'm with you and James - so far - and also think it could have been set to start with a townie.

Oh then nvm the first part I wrote.

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Shad said:
I had no reason to vote since he was at 4 vs 3 unless you don't know how math work, that should be obvious why I don't need to make a move in this situation.
You on the other hand you been voting me since Day 1, you said Day 1 that you are being liberal with your vote when voting me.

Day 2 I didn't see you give a reason, to me it just look like you are trying to waste your vote everyday by sticking on me so that you don't have to actually vote.

Nah I don‘t please teach me the math Shad. :eyeroll

So you couldn‘t have been too late to switch, and wanted to instead play games with the life of your most trusted townie? I‘m sure Sam‘s glad you have his back.

I thought you‘d like the attention :blush

But to be serious, I still want you lynched and nothing changed that since yesterday.

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I think higher of Sam than to vote one of his only 2 mafia buddies asap D1, then switch off before disappearing forever. Very likely Shad‘s just tying himself to a townie.

Shad · Feb 22, 2022

GrySun said:
I thought you‘d like the attention But to be serious, I still want you lynched and nothing changed that since yesterday.

State your reason, town Gry doesn't stick on 1 person for no reason.
You said, you will be liberal with your vote, trying to say that you will vote me for no reason (to put pressure) and switch later to a better target.

You never switched.
Mafia Gry.

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And in before @Demonspeed gives me the: Shad can only talk about Gry, Gry is the one to vote me without giving a reason 2 days in a row.

Farfalla · Feb 22, 2022

GrySun said:
Though so far I still see Pirate as our 1-shot Detective of sorts so it‘s not as weird

Hm, but that only works if the Pirate will tell us the night before who he/she's going for - and even that can backfire if the Doctor ain't around to protect him from a mafia kill while he attempts to do his 'investigation'.

GrySun · Feb 22, 2022

Shad said:
State your reason, town Gry doesn't stick on 1 person for no reason.
You said, you will be liberal with your vote, trying to say that you will vote me for no reason (to put pressure) and switch later to a better target.

You never switched.
Mafia Gry.

No reason? Shad do you have amnesia and forgot last day?

I said we all should be more liberal with our votes to encourage more and earlier voting. Then you were having a silly mafia breakdown over nothing, to me you‘re confirmed mafia and I‘m not sure why I‘m entertaining you with more responses when you talk like you do. You need to get your aggressions under control honestly.

Shad · Feb 22, 2022

GrySun said:
No reason? Shad do you have amnesia and forgot last day?

I said we all should be more liberal with our votes to encourage more and earlier voting. Then you were having a silly mafia breakdown over nothing, to me you‘re confirmed mafia and I‘m not sure why I‘m entertaining you with more responses when you talk like you do. You need to get your aggressions under control honestly.

Yeah yeah, I'm aggressive for asking you to justify your vote.
Play it the way you like then, my vote is on you until the end of the game.

GrySun · Feb 22, 2022

I don‘t get why so many people said yesterday „this Shad v Gry thing looks like 2 townies to me“, it started off of me asking Shad a simple question and him melting down spectacularly without making any more sense.

Shad · Feb 22, 2022

GrySun said:
I don‘t get why so many people said yesterday „this Shad v Gry thing looks like 2 townies to me“, it started off of me asking Shad a simple question and him melting down spectacularly without making any more sense.

Ok I give you a deal, 1 to 1 trade.
Say that you will be lynched tomorrow and I will vote myself today.

GrySun · Feb 22, 2022

Will look into who Shad‘s 2 teammates are and go from there later.

SirSamuel016 · Feb 22, 2022

GrySun said:
I‘m sure Sam‘s glad you have his back.

Not really, I don't trust anyone and if he ends up turning red after I chose to give him a pass for promising to make up some tech wizardry, I'll be very disappointed :XD

GrySun · Feb 22, 2022

Shad said:
Ok I give you a deal, 1 to 1 trade.
Say that you will be lynched tomorrow and I will vote myself today.

Wtf are you even saying, self-votes aren‘t even allowed. :cookiestare

I can‘t even ask of you to campaign for your own lynch because you‘ve been doing that so far.

But if others agree we can lynch you today then if you‘re town the rest can lynch me, I doubt I‘m wrong here.

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SirSamuel016 said:
Not really, I don't trust anyone and if he ends up turning red after I chose to give him a pass for promising to make up some tech wizardry, I'll be very disappointed

That was sarcasm, for him watching you almost get lynched yet saying he‘s defending you.

Farfalla · Feb 22, 2022

So, sorry about the long post, my thoughts on Asako's posts:

Asako said:
Yea the fact there a secondary role mention means that there definitely a traitor

Asako said:
But yea i agree that the fact secondary roles are mention means there sth more

So by the optic mafia considered Asako as a possible recruitable person, these could have been seen like flags to them. The rest of my comments will follow as if that is indeed the case ('cause as a mafia on the lookout for who could be recruitable, I have looked for signs with my team in the past - and as a traitor, I've sent them in the past as well *even tho I was naive #sadpanda*).

Asako said:
Also about the gry vs shad, i agree that both of them to me look townie

Asako said:
Anyways @Shad the good thing is it's just today that I'm busy, i should be back to my normal schedule after today as I'm just with my classmates all understanding SDL cuz validation is tomorrow

She first said that both Gry and Shad look town to her - so this could be exempting them if Asako also looked like a traitor due to name telling. In the second part tho, she tags Shad to talk about availability. So I'd say a tag could have been seen as another signal and for now I'd paint Gry in green and Shad in gray (not red cause this could been too much of a stretch, but felt like leaving this here for the record).

Asako said:
For who I'm gonna vote, honestly think it's between demon tatsu james erin
Well at least those I'm more iffy about

Asako said:
For Sam I'm confused why he trusted, geniually

So I'm with the other ones that - if we go with this theory - would narrow down her "signal name telling" to those 5. She even says she doesn't trust Marm per se but doesn't feel iffy enough about her to implicate her, which could maybe be seen as painting Marm in green. So, for now, I'll indeed keep my vote among the Fiend, Tatsu, James, Erin and Sam.

Asako said:
Yea I'm voting demon, don't really like his first posts especially the one about the poll and his vibes

Asako said:
But that's what current me thinks, could change depends on what happen but wanna vote just in case i forget myself in reviewing

Finally, she favors Demon with her vote but do alert she's up to spare him later on, which could also have been interpretated as a message by mafia. So keeping my vote on him till we have more things to discuss during this day. Ah, finally, also seeing Ust as green for now based on this same theory.

Shad · Feb 22, 2022

GrySun said:
Wtf are you even saying, self-votes aren‘t even allowed. I can‘t even ask of you to campaign for your own lynch because you‘ve been doing that so far.

But if others agree we can lynch you today then if you‘re town the rest can lynch me, I doubt I‘m wrong here.

This is what I meant, but don't say it like you don't mean it.
I accept the deal, do you confirm that you we can lynch you the next day if I'm town?

GrySun · Feb 22, 2022

Shad said:
This is what I meant, but don't say it like you don't mean it.
I accept the deal, do you confirm that you we can lynch you the next day if I'm town?

You're asking the wrong person, it's not us who enforce these deals but the other players. I already said I'm fine with it, if that will get you to give it up finally.

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Like this reads as a really cheap bluff/intimidation honestly.

Shad · Feb 22, 2022

GrySun said:
You're asking the wrong person, it's not us who enforce these deals but the other players. I already said I'm fine with it, if that will get you to give it up finally.

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Like this reads as a really cheap bluff/intimidation honestly.

Dude, why are you hiding behind other players?
Are you intimated by my cheap bluff?

Of course this doesn't depend on us, but you can still accept the deal if you want to, and let others decide on it.

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Mafia Gry is worth 10 times town Shad.
I know the deal sounds really bad for mafia Gry, but you gotta show more conviction

GrySun · Feb 22, 2022

Shad said:
Dude, why are you hiding behind other players?
Are you intimated by my cheap bluff?

Of course this doesn't depend on us, but you can still accept the deal if you want to, and let others decide on it.

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Mafia Gry is worth 10 times town Shad.
I know the deal sounds really bad for mafia Gry, but you gotta show more conviction