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Aight, here are the game infos (setup and actions):
IDAffiliationPrimary RoleSecondary RoleSanityPlayer
1TownDetectiveInsaneMadNat
2TownSpySaneBrandish
3TownDoctorSaneAsako
4TownBansheeGB
5TownNecromancerShad
6TownPsychiatristBaka Taichou
7TownProstituteEvil3ye
8TownBulletproofLambu
9TownMorticiandigital
10TownPsychiatristHolt
11TownProsecutorLady Pompom
12Third PartySanta ClausKat
13Town/MafiaPirateTraitorJames Rye
13Town/MafiaNobleTraitorCrescent
15MafiaMafia DetectiveSirSamuel
16MafiaStrongmanGrySun
17MafiaMafia EscortCopy Panda
18MafiaPirateMarmalade
GIFTS LIST

❄ Brewster's Gift "Drink it hot or give it up." (Hot Potato)
The Hot Potato explodes at the end of a day designated by the host before the start of the game, killing the player holding it. The holder of the Hot Potato doesn't know when it will explode, but he can pass it to another player at night, separately from any night ability he has. This passing can't be blocked. If the holder gets killed, the Potato explodes killing both the holder and the killer; if the holder is lynched, the Potato [dies with him].
❄ Kicks' Gift "You never know how things might turn out." (single-use Bar Keeper redirect)
One player ends up being the drunkest and uses his night action on a random player.
❄ CJ's Gift "A night cruise is a good way to catch night fish." (single-use Mafia Detective)
The Mafia Detective has the ability to investigate one player per Night and learn the player's Role. Only he is told the role of his target via PM. Whenever the Mafia Detective's investigation ability is performed, he cannot be chosen to go for a kill on the same night.
❄ Wisp's Gift "Tah-Dahh!" (this player's votes are worded as "Ho ho ho" during the next day)

❄ Jingle's Gift "Isn't this the best time of the year, kid?" Mandatory 5th Gift
(Santa Clause: this gift allows the game to go on. At the end of the game, Santa wins with the other winning party. Happy celebration ;)



Now first lemme thank @Erinyes for her massive participation in the game. At first, I got the November slot to host alone, and she asked me to join and I'm so happy she did! She's not only a very curious and interested person so we had a very nice and easy time discussing our ideas, but she also has the strength and endurance of a lion... I was often dead while we were hosting, but Erinchi followed everything and kept the game organized. She barely slept @.@ And that's a testimony I really needed to share with you all, 'cause her dedication and calm deserve lots of appreciation.

Also thanks @Hardy and @Vandred for double-checking the game mech (and in Poop's case, the comp as well) and giving us your honest thoughts, so we could try to present a game that would be fair and entertaining to people.

And finally, even tho some other points were addressed already, I'd like to thank all the players, from the heart. I know this game was too soon because of my availability due to local holidays, and I know you guys were tired - which for sure didn't improve during this time lol. So I really need to commend you all, because you guys were either putting in a lot of time and effort inside the game, analyzing and discussing nonstop, or in the deadpad - you guys also got no rest. As hosts, that's the biggest kind of feedback we could get: to have you guys really onboard. Some moves were questionable, but no one can't say any of those teams weren't trying... it's only natural that drained people will make some mistakes, so to me that's another sign of the praise you guys deserve.

Quick comments about the game that I've mentioned in the deadpad already: in general, the idea with the mech was to add a simple new function (and we tried to map beforehand the main game new considerations we'd need to have it in place) but that could allow a new set of strategical moves to be exploited - now I would reconsider the priority we used since we realize it would have been more adherent to people's preference. The game also had 2 Traitors 'cause Pirate is a VERY weak mafia that can suicide and lose the ability to kill later on, so we wanted to give them better odds (lemme say it one more time in here that the notion that means town had 2 extra people to lynch is wrong, first because town had 2 killing tools in the Prosecutor and the Banshee, and second because they don't need to eliminate unrecruited traitors to win). It had 2 Psys 'cause even tho we wanted mafia to have better chances to recruit, that didn't mean we wanted them to recruit BOTH, so town had more chances to find at least one on the other hand (even if one role would get erased eventually), and at the same time the role could cause some confusion that mafia could exploit. The Mortician came in place to trace stuff like Santa and fake claims/transfers regarding any role/action that got "buried" - imo it's more effective than the SM because it can target antitown and spot unknown stuff that could still be in-game; it was a late game resource that had good chances of being effective with the role transfer mech. The Necromancer was also in there for its recycling capabilities since we'd have roles being lost, and in this setup it would be less OP than it usually is, since his options would still be reduced. The Santa was there for extra fun, imo, since the role could still be used even if the OG player and their wincon was gone: two gifts - that we expected to be the last ones - were clear signs that there was a Santa in-game in case it would fly by too successfully - and even that was just to cause some ruckus since the last gift allowed the game to go on after Santa would win - which to me it's a needed measure so we won't have sudden major frustration with an unexpected game end (I do understand why the game usually has to end when Santa is in it, so people don't ignore the role, but in this case we saw an opportunity to play around that and fix the issue regarding that); Santa's other gifts were there to provide some extra spice but unfortunately, as you can see in the night actions, I made a mistake while processing GB's action with the Hot Potato. GB got blocked by Evil when he tried to pass it to James and I overlooked it that the passing can't be blocked. It would have been simple to fix it during the day by PMing the both of them if Bran didn't spy on GB and, coincidentally, Sam hadn't claimed the exact same action and outcome. After discussing with some people, we reached the conclusion that the attitude that would cause the least interference and damage to a bigger number of players would be to just remove the Hot Potato from the game and inform that to GB, which is what we did.

GG mafia, you fought the long battle and won! GG town, it's never easy to be on the more clueless side, trying to put pieces together. GG Santa cause Santa is always fun~
 

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☀ END OF DAY 1 ☀



Alright, here we are. This green fake-duck is ready to work on this OG villager hunting matter, aye aye! So, fellow villagers-

[some hours later]



... wait, what's going on ... I was honestly sharing my two bellcents...
What I got from Katrina is a real asset, I don't understand why people so easily jumped to judge here :emobirb

Alas... I'm tired, and there's still the afterlife


Mafia Strongman

IIIIIIIIIIIIIIRK!! It's one of them!! We got it!!
... now that I think about it, your favorite song fits your moment...



-------------

Oh! Okay okay, so that's why they handed me a gun... We got murderers to find!
*excited maniac laughter* Ahhh this is good...




(...)

Oh look, my crush, Admiral, is talking to Lucha!



Hola, brother of a feather, check how I flex and sweat *wink wink*



Wait... what 💢 !!!
Katrina-san, I wanna purge that silly sparrow!!!

As you command, I love this kind of action! The wheels have turned!



Prosecutor

We can listen to your fav tune together ❤ Quite fitting, uh? Fate can be kind as well.

Ahhhh Pompom-chaaan!! 💔




🌑 START OF NIGHT 1 🌑

🕘 Countdown 🕑
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Oh look at us, Katrina!! No body to pick up from the ground!
No bloodred sand to wash...
No mutilated parts from Nook...
Oh God, where's Nook...

Ok, no, let's focus!



☀ START OF DAY 2 ☀
 

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I hate no kill nights :true
 

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Its late here and the day is long so I will take my leave, I need to think things throughly and backread before deciding on a thread to pull from.

I want to see how many fly past the issues at hand, for now I'll place my votekill on digitaldude, my guess for him being he's Mafia Escort
Not looking good there Missy Shady.

VOTEKILL ASASKO

For now to get you talking.
Voting Marmalade

Will be sleepy in half an hour.
vote kill samuel late vote on gry, he also didn't guess a role.
Did you not notice how he wanted to prioritize him being the detective's target over Lambu/Lady Pompom? Didn't that spark any suspicions towards him from your side then?

Thank you for the interview! We will see what our citizens think about it!

As for me, I will have to votekill Asako for the time being.
well for now, I'll vote Asako.

Asako, no hard feelings, but your behavior was sus, and everyone noticed, and your explanations aren't logical, like even I was a bit uneasy about lynching an IC claim, but then since his behavior was so off, it made more sense that he'd just try to buy himself time, and when he advocated to detectives to check him instead of lambu/pom, it was super obvious that he was trying to buy time. So, yea, no excuse.

!votekill Asako

as much as I dislike having a town role out in the open D2, we need you to fess up.
@Baka Taichou I can, my active role is a night role, so sadly I ain't vigilante or cowboy. Also I used it last night. That's two hints.
Is there something you might want to add to your hint(s?) so far?

I also gonna votekill Asako. Digital can keep proving himself as mortician and given how many active role claimers we got, a mafia trying to act as mortician will sooner or later mess up for sure.
votekill james
@Asako same thing I told gry, your blood will be in your hand, gave you opportunity to play, didn't rush to vote you, waited to see if you will play in the last part of the day.

Blame it on being busy when you flip town.

@votekill Asako
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What is this about exactly?
Right now I’m going to votekill James

not really into lynching DD anymore today
btw since my death is high during the night and i am still lost



!votekill Asako





with the chance to change later, bc i have some personal eyes on Brandish and Holt and some who make me feel irritating and i would have looked at night what they are^^



but maybe i am actually paranoid and useless :doge
Alright, all caught up. We seem to be having spicy days even though it’s just D2. I pretty much just echoed things said echoed things said already cos there isn’t much more to add.

James as Traitor was definitely too hard on Gry, but as lover seems weird too because of how he wouldn’t let it go. I’m not really sure what the deal is here, but no use killing him now. Sakura can double check and hopefully mafia are fine with this. After all, if he were lover, then it is in their best interest to let us find him and expose the mafia lover on their end. It’s very weird that he is the sole secondary (allegedly), and even a doc too.

Going to Votekill Asako, I’ll guess mafia boss.
vote kill asako mafia rookie.
Alright, locking my vote, guys. Nobody should vote/lock after me else this doesn't make sense. Though I don't think a bomb makes that much sense in a "role passing" game, so I don't expect Asako to be one, even Mafia bomb seems like a waste with this mechanic, it just gets insta-killed by Strongman or any other Mafia role if they got no Mafia Member to pass to.

Votelock Asako. @Erinyes @Farfalla

And with the time getting close to midnight, I'm going to bed. Good night.
here and (largely) read back!!
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votekill asako first, ill write a posty
Switching my vote to Asako
Definitely not going for her. I don’t necessarily agree with the Gb thing either, wouldn’t pick that as a second option. Not fully convinced.
So for now I’ll go with this.

votekill James.
Seems to be more scummy, this would be a lynch I’d stand behind
AHHHHHHHHH SAKOOOOOOOO DAMNNNNN YOU!!!!

VOTEKILL PANDA
Votekill Marmalade
My guess is Mafia Escort


Maybe it's accidental (or I missed it) but I didn't see her include a guess with her vote, and given it's more established at this point I'd of thought she'd adhere to it this phase. Too much pressure to make a believable guess?

Votelock Asako
, my guess - Mafia Escort



Votes 15/16



Asako x9 - Evil3ye (#484), Kat (#536), Baka Taichou (#539), James Rye (#555; #799), Shad (#697), MadNat (#705), Holt (#758), Digitaldude (#773), Panda (#819), Crescent (829) Lambu (885)



Digitaldude x1 - Lambu (#435), Anonymous


James Rye x2
- GB (#614), Crescent (#702), Marmalade (842)

Marmalade x2 - Brandish (493) Sirsamuel (881)

SirSamuel016 x0 - Digitaldude


Copy panda x 1 - Evil (879)




- Digital: Mafia Escort - by Lambu;
- Asako: Mafia Escort - by James; Mafia Strongman - by Shad; Mafia Strongman - by Evil; Mafia Boss - by Holt, Mafia Rookie - by DD; Mafia Detective/Strongman - by Panda; Mafia Escort/Strongman - by Baka, Mafia Strongman - by Crescent.






🔮 Day End in 🔮

Countdown*









⚠ Nb ; Note that Day 2 will last 23 hours ! <3
 
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hmmm, yeah such non-kill nights are irritating and not sure what that could all mean... but i can go to bed with a better sleep .. real nightphase starts for me now ...see y'all later for discussion and asking who might be suspicious :mono
 

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@James Rye we can definitively exclude poisoner since they had strongman?

Failed kill is possible, since they had strongman we should have doctor + bullet proof or hider?

Evil eye liked his passive, maybe they tried to shoot him and failed?

Their best kill is James, evil and lambu.

Lambu was the most protected so James or evil.

It would be sad to have a recruited evil walking around claiming bullet proof :emocat

James is active, he should take priority over evil, unless they tried to kill as safely as possible.
 

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@James Rye we can definitively exclude poisoner since they had strongman?

Failed kill is possible, since they had strongman we should have doctor + bullet proof or hider?

Evil eye liked his passive, maybe they tried to shoot him and failed?

Their best kill is James, evil and lambu.

Lambu was the most protected so James or evil.

It would be sad to have a recruited evil walking around claiming bullet proof :emocat

James is active, he should take priority over evil, unless they tried to kill as safely as possible.
I hope it's a failed kill but I'm worried about the other possibilities.

Who do you currently suspect?
 

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I’m alive!!! 💃🏼 Thought was going to die
 

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No kills could mean many things, from a form of recruitment to a doc protecting correctly.
It also presents the possibility of Mentor making a Mentee or a Shapeshifter, some behaviours yesterday striked like quite "3rd partyish"

As for the scums, everyone that raised the point about not lynching a potential innocent child in a dissuasive/suggesting way is high suspect of being Gry's teammates, at least one of them 100%
 

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@James Rye we can definitively exclude poisoner since they had strongman?

Failed kill is possible, since they had strongman we should have doctor + bullet proof or hider?

Evil eye liked his passive, maybe they tried to shoot him and failed?

Their best kill is James, evil and lambu.

Lambu was the most protected so James or evil.

It would be sad to have a recruited evil walking around claiming bullet proof :emocat

James is active, he should take priority over evil, unless they tried to kill as safely as possible.
Did we forget last game? Could have been recruitment too for lack of kills?
 

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Who do you currently suspect?
I wasn't thinking about the game as I was out all day, I only remember things as they were yesterday.

- Asako sounding fake.
- The multi layered relation between Gry and Jinx, it ended with him claiming IC which could have led to a jinx lynch, but he spent 8 hours thinking about his plan so it can go both ways, he could have known it won't work and did it to help Jinx.
- Out of Gry voters, your vote SirSam is the weakest, as by the time you joined and started thinking about voting Gry, he was already close to dying but you play in a different time zone so you have a justification for joining the party late.

Basically nothing much, gotta backread again :/


I’m alive!!! 💃🏼 Thought was going to die
Why would you die over James and evil?
 

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No kills could mean many things, from a form of recruitment to a doc protecting correctly.
It also presents the possibility of Mentor making a Mentee or a Shapeshifter, some behaviours yesterday striked like quite "3rd partyish"

As for the scums, everyone that raised the point about not lynching a potential innocent child in a dissuasive/suggesting way is high suspect of being Gry's teammates, at least one of them 100%
The point was also raised that too much leftover baggage/revenge from last game too to lynch him too. So that’s another overlapping area to look at.
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I wasn't thinking about the game as I was out all day, I only remember things as they were yesterday.

- Asako sounding fake.
- The multi layered relation between Gry and Jinx, it ended with him claiming IC which could have led to a jinx lynch, but he spent 8 hours thinking about his plan so it can go both ways, he could have known it won't work and did it to help Jinx.
- Out of Gry voters, your vote SirSam is the weakest, as by the time you joined and started thinking about voting Gry, he was already close to dying but you play in a different time zone so you have a justification for joining the party late.

Basically nothing much, gotta backread again :/




Why would you die over James and evil?
Two fold. One was because I died so early last time that I didn’t get time to explore this role so it made me paranoid that would die in the night. The second reason was because I thought I was a soft target for the mafia that wouldn’t be protected or even a good target for a third party like a serial killer or mentor or even Santa. And a target for someone could have used me for their insanity doc check (although Daws isn’t in the game).
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Asako sounding fake.
What was this from?
 

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Did we forget last game? Could have been recruitment too for lack of kills?
Didn't forget, that post you quoted has the two players that could have been recruited.

I'm not a recruitment suspect since nobody would kill me over evil and James, I get no respect :(

What do you think of James and evil being the night kill?

Unless somebody hinted at being traitor real hard and nobody noticed?
 

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Its late here and the day is long so I will take my leave, I need to think things throughly and backread before deciding on a thread to pull from.

I want to see how many fly past the issues at hand, for now I'll place my votekill on digitaldude, my guess for him being he's Mafia Escort
 

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Also det chans, assuming you all targetted me last night to confirm your sanities, theres a bunch of players worth checking in future nights, specially Crescent to know for sure which version of Noble she is.
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ok gnight now o/
 

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What was this from?
Just from talking to her a lot in previous games, I will reread her to confirm and see if anything substantial based on what we discussed about protecting Gry.

To be fair tho, she always protects Gry and sometimes she is right.
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Mafia noble isn't a priority kill for town, it only needs to not make it to the end game.
 

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Didn't forget, that post you quoted has the two players that could have been recruited.

I'm not a recruitment suspect since nobody would kill me over evil and James, I get no respect :(

What do you think of James and evil being the night kill?

Unless somebody hinted at being traitor real hard and nobody noticed?
Would have to backread to see any weird interactions.

Evil, James and you definitely lead the Gry lynch. Out of those 3 evil was probably the most dangerous. And also the most likely protected. There were also active claims and claims about having good roles.

I’m kind of wandering with no night kills are we dealing with one large mafia instead of the 2x3 groups. Or the middle size mafia and a third party who is either Shapeshifter, Santa, or Mentor
 

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"BREAKING NEWS: After yesterday's occurances, the PD, together with the help of the town's cooperation, managed to arrest the culprit. It is, however, highly expected that he was NOT acting on his own.

The main person we will be looking more into is Asako as she was quite unwilling to let GrySun, the culprit, go even after his unreasonable defences.

On the other hand, I would like to thank the town representatives for doing a great job on protecting the villagers and eliminating one of the threats to our town. I myself would like to personally thank JamesRye and Evil3ye for their stances.

After the prosecutor's unsuccessful accusation on Lambu who turned out to be innocent after all. Despite the unfortunate fate of Lady Pompom, we believe it won't be in vain and will be of great help to our best detectives.

Things are looking positive and we believe the citizens will be feeling more and more confident, so that the danger will be eliminated for good.

Learn more later during the day!

Signing off,

Olivia 🫒"
 
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