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Re: MAFIA GAME 19

ive got to go to training and after that im maybe not at home ...so i have to vote now Votekill_Wizzard
All I have to say is Wizzard is being really suspicious to me being all contadictory in a game where contradictions are a bad thing.

Vote_Kill: Wizzard
I apologize for not showing up earlier. Weekend got the better part of me this time around. Why did a bunch of people get hostkilled though?

Anyways, seeing a few of the posts the only person I really find suspicious is wizzard so votekill wizzard.
K, since I'm seeing some support against one of my suspects I'll go and votekill benelori

aniki, who do you think the mafia will waste tonight? you or me?
I'm not talking about the post count but actually discussing theories and suspects. All I see you do is throw one-liners around and suspect this one and that one. Again no offense, everyone has his playing style~ I just would like more of an actual discussion going on and not just that "that one is suspicious", "now I suspect you", "I am mafia :derp" :p



I doubt anyone will get more suspicious on this day but I guess I can still change my vote if necessary, so votekill benelori

haha hard to say, it could get any of us. Other guys are no harm at the moment so if this goes on it's either me or you


wizzard 3x(kkck, kdowns, mazino)

benelori 2x(wizzard, niichan)

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6/10 voted.

18 hours left.
 

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Re: MAFIA GAME 19

What? You know how he thinks? From a previous game? Which you played online? anonymously? I don't buy this at all, seems way too far fetched.


Well yeah, we know what the remaining mafia roles are. There is a boss and a janitor. Given the way the two of you have acted I get the feeling you might have taken the "boss" role too seriously. You put a front, get the townies to kill each other while nichan being the janitor conspicuously fulfills his role.
let's strike a deal then, if benelori gets enough votes today and he's not mafia I'll vote for whomever you think it's mafia tomorrow

and If I'm not Mafia after the I get most votes, you'll vote bene tomorrow
 
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haha at least bene should know wizz well enough to know how strange and contradicting he can be at times, I believe KD might know as well. There's a possibility for all of us being mafia but I don't see a change in behaviour regarding wizz that's why I don't suspect him yet (he's acting fishy every game, I doubt it will change).
This is the same as voting for kdowns, who hardly posted anything and doesn't explain stuff, for all I care he could be mafia too but I guess he behaves like he always does. It's always a lot harder when someone really inactive is a mafia member so I hope it's not the case here.
 

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my role is either Detective or Doctor (won't say which one yet)
We can tell that by ourselves though...those two are the only ones to have an insane mode...so you can tell us which one...or even better...if you are detective tell us if you have investigated Hardy...there's one situation where I will believe your role, but I will have to hear it first...

About the number of posts...that's an issue only raised by Mazino and niichan, but both have different results, even though you were the one posting more by far, so I don't think it's relevant...

But the contradiction, even if was done or the purpose of giving an example was a pretty bad move...

The thing is that I believe your spammy and over the top playstyle is something genuine, and I don't think it would change with any role...so you are not as suspicious as say Niichan or Hardy in my eyes...

---------- Post added at 06:25 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:24 PM ----------

let's strike a deal then, if benelori gets enough votes today and he's not mafia I'll vote for whomever you think it's mafia tomorrow

and If I'm not Mafia after the I get most votes, you'll vote bene tomorrow
Why would he vote for me?
 

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I'm not contradicting myself. I intentionally suggest an impossible theme and then explain why it is impossible...

I bet very little people here are good at math...
 

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Well what is really irritating me is that Wizz is lying about him not contradicting himself
 

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haha at least bene should know wizz well enough to know how strange and contradicting he can be at times, I believe KD might know as well. There's a possibility for all of us being mafia but I don't see a change in behaviour regarding wizz that's why I don't suspect him yet (he's acting fishy every game, I doubt it will change).
This is the same as voting for kdowns, who hardly posted anything and doesn't explain stuff, for all I care he could be mafia too but I guess he behaves like he always does. It's always a lot harder when someone really inactive is a mafia member so I hope it's not the case here.
I agree on both counts here, as I've said above...but I won't even dare to rely on things like, typical behaviour or post count...those are bogus reasons for an online and anonymous game

---------- Post added at 06:29 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:27 PM ----------

I'm not contradicting myself. I intentionally suggest an impossible theme and then explain why it is impossible...

I bet very little people here are good at math...
The contradiction was highlighted twice dude
 

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Why would he vote for me?
Cause you're the other candidate for today's guillotine seat and as follows from 'if you vote for whoever I think is guilty if a certain condition is met and if not I'll vote for whoever he thinks it's the wrongdoer.' e.g. he gets 2 votes If I survive and you're not mafia ^^
 

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Ok, since this is getting too twisted:

I did hint yesterday My role has sane/insane variations. (even though I edited out that part later or I didn't don't remember anymore)

The only reason I seem to get along with niichan: I don't think he's mafia.

my role is either Detective or Doctor (won't say which one yet)

I'm posting a lot 'cause I like the game. I haven't been contradicting myself, but I may have used some bad English that've left others with that impression. (If so please as specific questions you want to be cleared I'll assume those who don't and are still suspicious of me are either mafia or some trolly players.

Thats.... suspicious. Even if that were for some reason true it would be just plain bad gameplaying. I mean, you would be trusting someone who you have no actual rational reason to trust. Even with all the roles around that would be a potential obstacle for doctors or detectives and whatnots, even if by some almost improbable chance you got it right that nichan was an ally, what would be the point of telling that to us? Votes in this games are usually scattered so the two of you voting together (which you did yesterday and today) can easily turn an election under normal circumstances. So why get yourself in the eyes of the mafia? Unless you were the mafia and such a thing was not an issue to begin with.
 

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Yo o/

It seems like my activity yesterday put me in a bind today...how convenient for the mobsters...

I didn't defend anyone per se yesterday...if you look carefully at my posts, the only definite thing I said is that there are no grounds to vote for anybody...and the only suspicions I had yesterday was Tata and Hardy...so there was no such thing as throwing suspicion around...as for why was my vote random...I think I explained that well enough yesterday...there was no way someone other than Faust to be voted out and the vote got pretty locked down after Tata and Gary were hostkilled...why evil and Lala jumped for the jugular I think it's clear...well I think it's more clear in evil's case...if evil suspected that the other lover was a mafia, then he would've taken down a mafia with him, which can be a considered a worthy sacrifice...

So it was more than locked so my vote and its randomness is pretty irrelevant I think...I could've just tossed a coin, but that would've been boring...

Now it's also funny how my "throwing suspicion around" and random voting, which is basically just inquisitive gameplay in the end is questioned, but it's not questioned in wizzard's case, who posted a lot more, but with the same idea behind...that there's no info to rely on...but he was doing the same thing, but with much more fervor as our post counts can attest...

But here's one thing I can offer you, as I hinted to my role during the previous day...Hardy is definitely not the mafia boss, if I understood my role correctly...he can still be a janitor though, so my suspicion of him is still not completely 0...

However the tandem in which niichan and wizzard work is interesting as well...and we know there's at least another mason in the group, so it's not a stretch to say there are 2 and you guys are the ones...

Now if I read correctly wizzard tells us that he doesn't know if his role is insane or not? But then he suggests that you two might be masons? Doesn't that ring a bit of suspicious behaviour? Just sayin'...
It's an easy case because wizzards behaviour is the same as always, that's why I don't question him yet. I know you're a smart player though so it seems likely that you would do something like this. You switched from person to person, I am not saying that you suspected all of them but you changed your focus pretty often.

It's interesting too that you try to shift the attention from you to wizzard. I have to wonder if you really don't know enough about wizzards general writing style (which would be weird) or if you know about it but use it to your advantage.
 

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Re: MAFIA GAME 19

Read last few posts, so far wizzard sound fishy. May be he is trying too hard to not actually do that.
 

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I didn't say I WAS a mason I WAS GIVING AN EXAMPLE IN WHICH CASES ME TALKING TO ANIKI LIKE THAT WOULDN'T BE SUSPICIOUS AND THEN NEGATING IT WITH THE TRUTH...
 

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Thats.... suspicious. Even if that were for some reason true it would be just plain bad gameplaying. I mean, you would be trusting someone who you have no actual rational reason to trust. Even with all the roles around that would be a potential obstacle for doctors or detectives and whatnots, even if by some almost improbable chance you got it right that nichan was an ally, what would be the point of telling that to us? Votes in this games are usually scattered so the two of you voting together (which you did yesterday and today) can easily turn an election under normal circumstances. So why get yourself in the eyes of the mafia? Unless you were the mafia and such a thing was not an issue to begin with.
That's actually wrong kk, I voted for you yesterday because you were supposed to be taken out and I thought my vote would do you no harm anyway. I later protected you from getting hostkilled because I believed you might have been hindered by the hurricane XD
 

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Thats.... suspicious. Even if that were for some reason true it would be just plain bad gameplaying. I mean, you would be trusting someone who you have no actual rational reason to trust. Even with all the roles around that would be a potential obstacle for doctors or detectives and whatnots, even if by some almost improbable chance you got it right that nichan was an ally, what would be the point of telling that to us? Votes in this games are usually scattered so the two of you voting together (which you did yesterday and today) can easily turn an election under normal circumstances. So why get yourself in the eyes of the mafia? Unless you were the mafia and such a thing was not an issue to begin with.
let me put it differently. I don't find him suspicious in any way.

Also I'm a bit naive by nature. but when something's hitting me in the face I rarely miss it. Unless you're saying his suspicious and I'm just covering him up????
 

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let's strike a deal then, if benelori gets enough votes today and he's not mafia I'll vote for whomever you think it's mafia tomorrow

and If I'm not Mafia after the I get most votes, you'll vote bene tomorrow
Put yourself in my shoes for this one. I genuinely believe you and nichan are mafia as of now due to all the inconsistencies which you two have brought forth and others have noticed. Why would I agree to that deal then? From my perspective it seems like a desperate move for the mafia to get another day, a day which could be enough to win the game.
 

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Is it ok to let other knows your role? Different thing if they believe it or not.

---------- Post added at 09:37 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:36 PM ----------

We have almost 17 hours for the day phase?
 

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No one is going to talk about the night kill? Come on, Impy was THE GUY that Faust tell the Mafia to kill, that was such a noob move...

Wizz, your contradictions make you look suspicious. But I suspect more about shin and Mazino, they only comment to incriminate people :XD .
 

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Put yourself in my shoes for this one. I genuinely believe you and nichan are mafia as of now due to all the inconsistencies which you two have brought forth and others have noticed. Why would I agree to that deal then? From my perspective it seems like a desperate move for the mafia to get another day, a day which could be enough to win the game.
WHAT INCONSISTENCIES HAS NIICHAN BROUGHT UP! WTF?!

you'd agree 'cause it's beneficial for you. if you tell me to vote for niichan I would. But that's only the case if bene is innocent. In which case I'll be prone to think all my theories are wrong and you've been right, but since I know I'm not mafia Then I'm sure your point of me and niichan collaborating because of us being mafia is also wrong, that's why I'm agreen to taking the risk of proposing that deal.
 

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That's actually wrong kk, I voted for you yesterday because you were supposed to be taken out and I thought my vote would do you no harm anyway. I later protected you from getting hostkilled because I believed you might have been hindered by the hurricane XD
Ahh, yeah you did vote for me and wizzard did vote for someone else. Still, from back then the two of you seem to be working together.

On another note, I was never at risk from the hurricane because I am nowhere near it. I appreciate the concern though.
 

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It's an easy case because wizzards behaviour is the same as always, that's why I don't question him yet. I know you're a smart player though so it seems likely that you would do something like this. You switched from person to person, I am not saying that you suspected all of them but you changed your focus pretty often.
What does often mean to you? And I didn't switch yesterday...I had two suspicions from the get go...did you spot some kind of change? The only change now is that I'm pretty sure Hardy is not mafia, unless it's like KD suggested and that there's no mafia boss...if there's no mafia boss and it was the janitor who sent in the victim name and he was also the one to clean up, then Hardy could have another role or just be a regular mobster...if my assumption where I think that the janitor can't do 2 actions at once, then Hardy is cleared in my eyes...
And that's the only change from yesterday...
It's interesting too that you try to shift the attention from you to wizzard. I have to wonder if you really don't know enough about wizzards general writing style (which would be weird) or if you know about it but use it to your advantage.
I dunno if you caught up with the posts, but I said the exact same thing, with the addition that I won't really rely on such reasons in this game...the only thing I can do is judge from posts...and wizz contradicted himself or suggested some incredibly awkward example...so it's actually him shifting the attention onto himself...kkck, Mazino and KD caught him on this, and it wasn't thanks to my attention shifting...attention shifting in itself is a bit irrelevant, since we have the posts and we can always look at them whenever we want...there's no such thing as acting on impulse here
 
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