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Lol i just wabt to see you guys face when you learn that i am prostitute.
From the moment i claimed my role you guys always add the possibility of escort which i can't blame you for that but come on escort claims prostitute in day 2? Without knowing if there is a prostitute in the game?
You said that i am headstrong about 2 mafia in each team but you are headstrong about me being escort too. Even so much that every theory you have somehow includes me so can you tell me why should I try to convince you my innocense?
And this is how i should see thing with your logic;
2 dets normal for game which means magi is det, 2 docs normal for game which means you and erin are townie , lawl is confirmed townie and i know that i am townie. So who is mafia?
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And @Ustegius you should check magi's last actions last day which she tried to kill both you and gnut with a tie. It was me and holt who saved you. If we are mafia and you are toenie why would i bother to save you?
I'll take some time to dissect this. You are contradicting yourself or being very unstable. First you say Magi has to be det because 2 dets is normals, then you put him in flames for trying to get me killed. I also have an answer for your last question. Mafia knew I was out of the game and would get bunch of penalties atleast, in best case not be around to defend myself. That's why mafia would save me over another townie.
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@Ustegius I locked because I didn't want a situation where two people die. Magi tried to pull that shit yesterday by tying you and Greg and nearly killing you both.
There's not much that can be done via deduction at this moment, your penalty votes were a huge blow and made things too unlikely. I figured it's better we lose one that have the Mafia force our hand into killing two imo or there being a host kill.

If you're not Mafia, then there's someone else in addition to Magi because I'm pretty certain Magi is bloody Mafia. I'm undecided on g01. One moment he seems genuine but after a while I get second thoughts. There's also Erin as well but asides here passive play which is her normal modus operandi, I don't have much to go on.
I have to think magi is a townie, because his vote is on me and that is needed to change tide and save town. If he is mafia, I'm good as done for and town loses.
 

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I'll take some time to dissect this. You are contradicting yourself or being very unstable. First you say Magi has to be det because 2 dets is normals, then you put him in flames for trying to get me killed. I also have an answer for your last question. Mafia knew I was out of the game and would get bunch of penalties atleast, in best case not be around to defend myself. That's why mafia would save me over another townie.
I don't think you understand what I said,I was talking about your way of think.(that's why I say"And this is how i should see thing with your logic;") you said that 2 docs normal for this kind of game and 2 dets also normal for this game and I am saying that let's assume you are right then you,erin and magi are not mafia.Lawl is not mafia and I know myself that I am not mafia so how can this game has remaining 2 mafias ?
And that's the thing,you will always have an answer for any of my claims that's why I said you are headstrong about me being mafia...
 

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I don't think you understand what I said,I was talking about your way of think.(that's why I say"And this is how i should see thing with your logic;") you said that 2 docs normal for this kind of game and 2 dets also normal for this game and I am saying that let's assume you are right then you,erin and magi are not mafia.Lawl is not mafia and I know myself that I am not mafia so how can this game has remaining 2 mafias ?
And that's the thing,you will always have an answer for any of my claims that's why I said you are headstrong about me being mafia...
Why so aggro if you sure I'm mafia and that is has to be due "elimination" (which you are doing wrong).

That's why you are never going to pass the host test. The core of everything is randomizing, mafia has to be randomized to work. However, since there are many roles involved, there are some things that form to be very likely, like two dets and docs docs per game. However, I never said that is necessarily true. Never.
 

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Why so aggro if you sure I'm mafia and that is has to be due "elimination" (which you are doing wrong).

That's why you are never going to pass the host test. The core of everything is randomizing, mafia has to be randomized to work. However, since there are many roles involved, there are some things that form to be very likely, like two dets and docs docs per game. However, I never said that is necessarily true. Never.
Nah I am not aggressive and lol I know i won't :XD
Indeed and I am pointing out that in this game there is no 2 docs or 2 dets imo.If you are really townie ust then I really want to see your reaction when my role revealed at the end of the game(or if I die tonight) rolf
 

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g01, someone has to be lying. That's the thing of the game. Someones not a doc, not a det, not a prostitute. I kept mentioning the possibility of escort, because I didn't want people to start think you are "confirmed".

Have you considered I always find an answer to your claims, because, you know, there are other possibilities? Why you are trying to diss my answer to your questions, it is pretty valid scenario. Also I find it funny that you play almost like Holt is your most trusted friend, and Holt seems to be ready to give you the benefit of doubt :D
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Nah I am not aggressive and lol I know i won't :XD
Indeed and I am pointing out that in this game there is no 2 docs or 2 dets imo.If you are really townie ust then I really want to see your reaction when my role revealed at the end of the game(or if I die tonight) rolf
Do you even realize, that there won't be a tonight if I die?
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Do you even realize, that I could say the exact same childiss taunt to you? That you'll be sorry when you fnd out I'm doc.
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This is frustrating. I wanna still try to change things. I really feel bad about failing town due to my personal issues. So I'm thinking, I'm pokling I'm trying. But all that is useless if Magi is mafia. So Magi, when you come online and if your are mafia, just lock it and make live easier to us.
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I must say though, now that I've thought it a while, that the fact that g01 seems to think this game will still continue after my lynch, give him credibility as a townie.
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Did Holt claim anything yet btw?
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And ust didn't pass anything, he will be blocked by visored team, with this way we can see if he is mafia or not(of course we will understand it if you are mafia)
I'm not sure what this actually means. But doesn't that mean that I was blocked, but the kill happened? So I'm not mafia? What you say @g01 stop lurking.

And yeah, it might be out of context, I'm still trying to paint a picture what happened during my absence.
 

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g01, someone has to be lying. That's the thing of the game. Someones not a doc, not a det, not a prostitute. I kept mentioning the possibility of escort, because I didn't want people to start think you are "confirmed".

Have you considered I always find an answer to your claims, because, you know, there are other possibilities? Why you are trying to diss my answer to your questions, it is pretty valid scenario. Also I find it funny that you play almost like Holt is your most trusted friend, and Holt seems to be ready to give you the benefit of doubt :D
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Do you even realize, that there won't be a tonight if I die?
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Do you even realize, that I could say the exact same childiss taunt to you? That you'll be sorry when you fnd out I'm doc.
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This is frustrating. I wanna still try to change things. I really feel bad about failing town due to my personal issues. So I'm thinking, I'm pokling I'm trying. But all that is useless if Magi is mafia. So Magi, when you come online and if your are mafia, just lock it and make live easier to us.
That's what I am saying,when I said the possibility of each team having one mafia but you think I am forcing this idea.But I admit that my whole plan based on that possibility.
As I said I do not blame you or anyone for thinking that I am escort but from what I get you are very convinced that I am escort,so much that every mafia couple that you think includes me.

lol as I said holt is my number 3 mafia suspect(first is you,second is magi).

Well I will be sorry if you are doc though.
 

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That's what I am saying,when I said the possibility of each team having one mafia but you think I am forcing this idea.But I admit that my whole plan based on that possibility.
As I said I do not blame you or anyone for thinking that I am escort but from what I get you are very convinced that I am escort,so much that every mafia couple that you think includes me.

lol as I said holt is my number 3 mafia suspect(first is you,second is magi).

Well I will be sorry if you are doc though.
The game ends if I'm a doc you dummy.

Also when there 5 players left, 1 is you, one is confirmed vigilante, saying Holt is your 3rd suspect is just stupid.
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That basivly means you trust him the most.
 

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Did Holt claim anything yet btw?
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I'm not sure what this actually means. But doesn't that mean that I was blocked, but the kill happened? So I'm not mafia? What you say @g01 stop lurking.

And yeah, it might be out of context, I'm still trying to paint a picture what happened during my absence.
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Visored team used their power to block you because thought that you are mafia(yeah this include holt,magi,erinyes,dd).So visored blocked you(mostl likely a mafia boss) and started to look for the mafia member in the captain team.
 

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Also, your theory solely lies on the fact, that there must be 2 mafia in a faction. Which is wrong and that is thing every host knows. My theory doesn't base solely on you being escort, as you've might have read (or not, which I often feel like) I am juggling multiple options here. You are just about "Oh, there must be 2, just must", even while someone who hosts himself says to you, that it is always random.
 

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The game ends if I'm a doc you dummy.

Also when there 5 players left, 1 is you, one is confirmed vigilante, saying Holt is your 3rd suspect is just stupid.
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That basivly means you trust him the most.
This is not just you but if any townie die,game ends and we voted for best option out there.

No I trut erin more than holt.
 

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Freeman

Visored team used their power to block you because thought that you are mafia(yeah this include holt,magi,erinyes,dd).So visored blocked you(mostl likely a mafia boss) and started to look for the mafia member in the captain team.
So doesn't that make me even more likely clean?
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This is not just you but if any townie die,game ends and we voted for best option out there.

No I trut erin more than holt.
Yes. It will end. But not the best option in any case. I killed Zasz. I was blocked. I haven't been online at night. All the votes are on me, which is near impossible if I am mafia. That means that one mafia is killing a friend without even suggesting another option. Everything supports me really. your "best option" is solely based on the completly and utterly wrong assumption, that there must be 2 mafias on each faction. And you refuse to believe a host that it is always random.

g01, you are either mafia or dumb. Sorry to break that to you.
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But your right, I counted the number of players wrong. there is still Erin, who I always forget.
 

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And I am the aggressive one here ?
Anyway ust,I am really tired.You don't have to dig everything I said you know and perhaps you didn't read it but all the remaining players voted for you too and I don't even know why I am bothering to reply you.
You said that holt is playing aggressive but you know at least he is not offending others for their playing style.Which it is sad because out of this game it is really good to talk with you about other thing but here I am listening your insults while I am trying to reply everything you post and I am not lurking around I am with my friends right now and I have little time to reply.
But at this point I really do not care,you can vote for me,you can say that I am mafia but go find someone else to insult I don't have to listen any of these really.
 

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I'm sorry I insulted you.

I'm tired as well and I don't take it well you ignore the key things (it is always randomized). Something that is very core basic of the game.
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So Holt claimed freeman, but is still alive?

VOTEKILL HOLT
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I mean, both sleeper and freeman as passive roles in game? And with that I'm done.
 

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Do you even consider that,you know, I might be busy and can't post much ? And it is really hard to answer your questions while you don't even wait for me to reply and reading your insult doesn't help either.
 

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Ustegius 7x (Penalty, Penalty, lawlett-kun, g01, Holt, Erinyes, Lovemagi) (Penalty for inactivity on day 4)
Holt 1x (Ustegius)

Captain faction votes for power 4!
The faction may target and grant one player immunity for the following night phase.
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Erinyes 3x (Holt, G01, Erinyes)

 
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I'm sorry, I did not. It's my fault. I'm sincerely very sorry about that.
 

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Just kinda checked Ust new posts fast. I totally give credits to Ust and respect him for trying and pointing straight things out we discussed the past two days. Even if he might be Mafia or Townie, he is doing very well. Because of that I will chance my vote to Holt. Not that it will change much, but you never know.

Votekill Holt.

And also, because what I said early. Freeman still being alive while mafia could easily killed him the Night Phase, yet they did not? Lel okay than.
 

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@Ustegius
First, I didn't say I trust g01. He's mostly been on my side but I couldn't care less about who has my back when it comes to Mafia games. Mafia need to lie, and need to win trust of town or some so I take little note of who might seem interested in keeping me safe since that is also a pretty standard technique to get me to lower my guard.
If you go through this game, my suspects have basically been g01, gnut and Magi. I keep saying that I believe g01 could be escort just as much as he could be prostitute so don't make it sound as though I don't suspect him. He's the next person after magi (who I suspect the most). At some points, I have my eyes somewhere firmly enough that I keep him at the back.

Also, you've definitely been Mafia before, and it's clear they obviously have to put thoughts into kills. As a freeman, I'm a high priority target not only for Mafia but for townies. There's no way Mafia can guarantee they'd be able to get past potential blocks/protects to kill me and it's better any target than no target. They went for DD who was a detective. I already got checked and DD gave his results. But I was his only check asides from Lawl and he gave those results too. That also makes him a high target for Mafia as well. I know you're trying to get results but it's not going to help if you develop tunnel vision. There's a lot of ifs in this game, and just the other day you were berating me for sticking so adamantly to my pov, now you're doing same.

Honestly, i literally have nothing left. I already believed I would get killed the day Gary got lynched so I'm kinda indifferent to this whole probing thing on my end. What new info are you possibly hoping to get? I've been investigated, been suspected, been that close to being lynched and now I'm on everyone's radar for good or bad. I don't have an active ability that can be scrutinized after each night. I've said all that can be said for me and you have all the info you will need, so it's either I'm killed or not. Or blocked or whatever. Whichever way things go, at least I know I did my part in giving as much as I could. Not like I'd fault you for doing this since someone has to be lying but well, it's the wrong tree. I've gotten rather tired and lost on these. The only person I truly suspect now is Magi, and then g01 but if it's not Magi, then it's a loss already
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That reply applies to you as well.
And how easy would it have been to kill me? Why didn't you try then?
Ah well, you're the one that opted in his 'detective claim' on hoping to get lucky instead of attempting to confirm his sanity when he could've tried and then tried to get me killed for that. Guess I shouldn't be surprised really
 

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@Holt I never said you trust g01. Quite the opposite.

Magi could have ended it if he was mafia by locking me. But he didn't. So either he is sadistic mafia person who wants to prolong this and bully everybody involved, or he is town. So that leaves g01, Holt and Erin. That's basically 66,66% chance to get it right. g01 was all over the place with his last few posts, so I can't make out if he erratic due to being innocent, or erratic due to pretty certain win starting to slip from his fingers. I was bit rude to him, so maybe in a un-thinked way of apologizing I chose youover him. I'm not sure if that was a good option anymore. What you says makes sense a lot, though it doesn't really clean you either. DD's result was pretty much nulled at the point it was revealed there is another boss.
 
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