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A long time ago on Hydra Vote Z

Spoiler: Flashback

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A relatively shorter while ago on Hydra Vote Z

Spoiler: [Before the presentation] Day 2 Belsaph arc got cut short by the Vankaku

One VanPlan in the backyard later

Spoiler: [Slide 1] - Night 2 The JoJo franchise collapses

Spoiler: [Slide 2] Day 3 Blackuchi bites the dust

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To be continued...

 

[Purity of Magi]

A bit of a flashback of this game

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Basically Takuans Lynch being discussed in a nutshell

Spoiler

Confirmed townie basically yet still pointed as suspicious

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How to throw a game

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Deadpad talk:

How the game basically ended:

How to use logic and gain trust in Raven style

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What have we learned?

Nothing.



Mafia game basically

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[Farfalla]

Ah ok, we were actually tidy so it was easy to make the final updates. Here are the lists:

Spoiler: Roles

Santa Gifts (Permanent Role Changes):

• Mason
• Mason
• Doctor (Sane if Town)
• Spy (Sane)
• Spirit Medium

Spoiler: Actions

And yes mafia was pink just cause pink = pretty red

 

[Holt]

James and DD are suddenly 100% more invested than before. The switch is too weird.

@Lambu please clarify what you don't like about the playstyle?

About the night, could've been a poisoner from N1 or Gry perhaps insane killing someone? N1 was would've been too smooth to believe there was 2 killing parties if we didn't have to consider mentor recruiting. Still, we have seen super mason and robber already. Testing substitute teacher with a mentor would've been perfect but I don't know how likely it is for Panfalla to test 3 roles in the game.

@Takuan you're changing to "probably reveal" now?

--- Double Post Merged, Sep 9, 2020, Original Post Date: Sep 9, 2020 ---

Two dead in one night is rough, especially when its those roles. I still think Haven is stinky, and those who voted for Lambred warrant attention too.

Speaking of, I checked yesterday and you just voted HardYes. Don't recall seeing an explanation. Shortly before the day ended, you said you'd be willing to switch to force an extension and were iffy about lynching a doc. Shortly after, politician switches your vote and does force the extension. Isn't that quite the nice understanding you have with the politician?

 

[Takuan]

@Takuan you're changing to "probably reveal" now?

Why not?
And it's not like we said "we'll reveal for sure" or "we swear to reveal".
But don't worry though, we will most likely reveal. I'm just toying a bit, and more importantly, i'd like to hear role reveals from other players, since in my eyes our own role reveal will not be as helpful as, say, a spy coming out and presenting his results or something like that.

 

[Holt]

Why not?
And it's not like we said "we'll reveal for sure" or "we swear to reveal".
But don't worry though, we will most likely reveal. I'm just toying a bit, and more importantly, i'd like to hear role reveals from other players, since in my eyes our own role reveal will not be as helpful as, say, a spy coming out and presenting his results or something like that.

Well those caveats are nice and all but if you're said you'll reveal, not sure why that needs to depend on others? At the very least, it'll help us narrow the suspects down and use it to press others

 

[digitaldude]

Your role is far from confirmed by the way. So rather than trying to get us lynched, what about you get lynched instead and take us down with you?

So we confirmed and we die, then there is still small chance we are wrong on who is mafia. What is the gain for town?

--- Double Post Merged, Sep 9, 2020, Original Post Date: Sep 9, 2020 ---

Well those caveats are nice and all but if you're said you'll reveal, not sure why that needs to depend on others? At the very least, it'll help us narrow the suspects down and use it to press others

ROLE REVEAL

--- Double Post Merged, Sep 9, 2020 ---

Noble just voted for sirmalade da fuq

 

[James Rye]

Nothing weird about us being active. We always posted more than 3 times per day, we gave out clear hints about our role (And not BS ones like "this role doesn't fit our avatar, hurdurmur~), we were the first to reveal and so far I see nobody coming out and whining that they are the real VT so either I and DD must be insanely lucky to claim that role on D2 or we are VT and wanted dets and docs and spies to not waste their precious actions on us. Oh and we even said we'd be more active on day 3 and guess what? It's day 3! XD

Seriously though, we need more role claims, we got a pretty good suspect list due the last two day happenings with taku, shino, lawl, Gaj and so on. We should probe them for their roles, if they don't answer, vote them until they break and reveal, especially the passive claimer ones.

 

[digitaldude]

We voted belsaph day 1 and hardyes day 2....now blackuchi day 3 HMMMMMMM

 

[James Rye]

Makes me think the Noble is a troll, lol. Or someone who really has it out for SirMalade. XD

 

[digitaldude]

Also when grysun died that left post spam void here.

--- Double Post Merged, Sep 9, 2020, Original Post Date: Sep 9, 2020 ---

Makes me think the Noble is a troll, lol. Or someone who really has it out for SirMalade. XD

They must be really sure that those guys are mafia.

 

[James Rye]

We voted belsaph day 1 and hardyes day 2....now blackuchi day 3 HMMMMMMM

I'd say, old chap, our nose is top notch. Track hound should be a role for Mafia Game, someone who sniffs out guilty people and is not bothered by role bs like mafia boss or Death Miller and such. XD

 

[Takuan]

Well those caveats are nice and all but if you're said you'll reveal, not sure why that needs to depend on others? At the very least, it'll help us narrow the suspects down and use it to press others

That doesn't depend on others. I'll most likely reveal regardless of what people say. But in the slight chance a Mafia claims the same role, i'd rather wait a bit to see what people claim.

So we confirmed and we die, then there is still small chance we are wrong on who is mafia. What is the gain for town?

Your role's sole purpose is to get lynched and kill something in the process. If you're not willing to do that, how am i supposed to believe your claim.

 

[James Rye]

Our first role is to be townie and best way to be townie is not dying and lynching Mafia scumbags, don't you agree, Taku? We just got lucky that our role gives us a bonus kill if we get lynched, that's it.^^

 

[Holt]

Makes me think the Noble is a troll, lol. Or someone who really has it out for SirMalade. XD

I don't understand. Noble and Politician are different. Noble does an anon vote, politician forces a vote switch. Are you intentionally mixing the two ?

 

[James Rye]

Besides considering our vote aren't you and your partner the highest target to get killed if we get lynched? Are you so dead-set on a quadruple suicide? Should you, if you were town want to avoid us dying, Taku?

I don't understand. Noble and Politician are different. Noble does an anon vote, politician forces a vote switch. Are you intentionally mixing the two ?

Where in that post you quoted did I say anything about politician? Are you losing your mind or is your age showing, Holt? I would suggest glasses, that helps with failing sight. A Noble anon voting someone so early in the day is either trollish because it could be a waste of an important vote to break a tie especially with a politician around moving votes or it is a noble hinting at town to help him lynch SirMalade. What do you think of the Noble Vote?

 

[Takuan]

Our first role is to be townie and best way to be townie is not dying and lynching Mafia scumbags, don't you agree, Taku? We just got lucky that our role gives us a bonus kill if we get lynched, that's it.^^

Agreed, agreed.
That was just me reminding you that you guys aren't confirmed, despite your claim.

Besides considering our vote aren't you and your partner the highest target to get killed if we get lynched? Are you so dead-set on a quadruple suicide? Should you, if you were town want to avoid us dying, Taku?

Avoid you dying? I want to prevent townie deaths. Thing is, i know Black and i are townie. I can't say the same for you.
I'd rather lose a vengeful townie who gets to kill the second most suspicious player in the process, than a spy or a det. Don't you agree ?

--- Double Post Merged, Sep 9, 2020, Original Post Date: Sep 9, 2020 ---

Besides considering our vote aren't you and your partner the highest target to get killed if we get lynched? Are you so dead-set on a quadruple suicide? Should you, if you were town want to avoid us dying, Taku?

You can also see it as me testing your guts. I'm not afraid of dieing to you. So if you want to pull the trigger, i won't try to dissuade you.
Otherwise, let's keep discussing other people. And of course, you'll get our role reveal soon enough.

 

[Holt]

Besides considering our vote aren't you and your partner the highest target to get killed if we get lynched? Are you so dead-set on a quadruple suicide? Should you, if you were town want to avoid us dying, Taku?



Where in that post you quoted did I say anything about politician? Are you losing your mind or is your age showing, Holt? I would suggest glasses, that helps with failing sight. A Noble anon voting someone so early in the day is either trollish because it could be a waste of an important vote to break a tie especially with a politician around moving votes or it is a noble hinting at town to help him lynch SirMalade. What do you think of the Noble Vote?

No but you said the noble must really have it out for SirMalade. Seemed as if you were linking it to the politician forcing their vote switch yesterday.

Anyway, on the noble vote. Two things: the noble was important yesterday in saving and countering the politician. So clearly the noble knows what they're doing. I doubt the noble will turn troll overnight. It's an intentional move for some reason. Also, the mafia have lost possibly half of the team. Even with the politician, I find it extremely hard to see them influencing the votes in a significant way. Especially considering the town knows they're in the game

 

[Lambu]

At this point Lambu, you just shading everyone. I would say only scum would come after me and Brandish considering we NVD Hardyes and was on him since the beginning of D2. Plus we explained our hint from day 1 yesterday.

Of course Im shading everyone, its what you are supposed to do in mafia when you can't trust anyone. No one except DigiRye has claimed and everyone has a shady edge around them. You can't expect me to believe everyone is a det or a doc at this point.
Besides I dont believe you are mafia but you could very well be Third Party. Could you link me the post in which you hinted it? Van didn't tell me about it and he reads you better than me.

Ask your questions then but you are making things up trying to accuse us simply because you like to meme Juviii when she has been Mafia only once.

For starters:

"Reluctance to vote HardYes"

What reluctance may I ask? The fact that we put in a vote for you(and you know very well why) super early because we were unsure of being able to participate in the final hours or are you going to blame us that several people voted you after us, mainly towards the latter end of the phase?

"Quite Shady"

How? Your partner thinks(or thought otherwise). What part of I can only play because we are in a pair(and even that is difficult) do you not understand? And you say we participate without saying nothing, ignoring we've given our thoughts on players and such, your partner sure thought it wasn't "nothing".

I troll you with emotes because you can make better accusations instead of making stuff up like your "town Gryff does this or that" bit.

Niice you are actually engaging into conversation now! Tho Im disappointed you do only to lie to me.

For starters, Juvii has been scum more than once, SS twice even.

You kept the discussion going around Hardyes but never breaching it (I've just read all the posts of both of you from yesterday so you can't deny it)
You kept asking opinions on other people, as waiting for another wagon to latch onto.
The most productive posts you guys made were your respective player thoughts

Some personal thoughts, since Juviii doesn't agree with all my hunches.

GrySun/LP
Good vibes but would like to hear more from LP.

Marmalade/Samuel
I trust Marmalade on Sam but still not a good look to lurk and like posts as opposed to actually commenting.

Gajeel/Beno
Good vibes

Brandish/Crescent

Brandish fumblin' like usual so nothing new there, waiting on Crescent to form better opinion.


Holt/Raven
Pretty much laying low despite almost being lynched, doesn't necessarily paint them as suspicious but still would appreciate some commentary.


Seraph/Bel
Seraph seems the usual, more interested in hearing from Bel but guess that isn't happening soon.


Desin/Daws
Am ok with them at the moment.

Lambu/Vandred
idk

Shinobi/Asako
idk...Asako seems detached

BT/Takuan
I liked the way BT posted, good in my book for now.

Hardy/Erinyes
Feel worse vibes from Erinyes than Hardy

DD/James
No good vibes, guess they are bored?

Scav/riki
idk..Scav seems confident in his posting which is good but would like to hear more from riki too.

Lawlett/Zasz





Here dawg, this easier to use:

Love to see how much people liked that post despite half of it making no sense btw
"SirMalade is afk = not suspicious" dafuc , "Haven keeps laying low even after the shade = not necessarily suspicious" soka... "Black Tiger posted good" ?????? in what world was that good, the clueless townie play after 3 games already stank if anything at all, you even subtly acknowledge Taku's posting is shady but that doesn't matter right? \

Then Juvs in the same line:

Alright, let's go through some players:

Scari: don't know their playstyle, riki been absent, scav is 50/50 for me.

SirMarm-leaning towards townie for her, I've read her well in the past games at least.

Lambred- ironically as it is Vandred sounds more mafia than Lambu to me this time.

Digirye-have a bad feeling about them. Even if James wasn't motivated ( still think he could at least have checked and posted some thoughts), doesn't DD usually comes more even if for his random posts? It just feels off.

Haven-I'm terrible at reading Holt... So don't even wanna go there for a Juviii x Holt x Lambu part 2.

Hardyes- I'm just confused at this point. I'll go through his posts later to have a clear idea, all these debates did nothing but give a knot on my head.

Lawlz- lawl always feel shady. And still does in this game. Zasz is non-existant. And no one wanted to vote him D1 which is weird.

Even more ironic that she says "Hardyes debate" gives a knot on her head when she was deliberately avoiding it for the entire time, for anyone that wants to check it the post record is there.
Also note how she suspects Van more than me, then the moment I point my feathers at her (not even a lynch train, just pointing at the fact that was her elusive play) then there's nothing better than Lambred in her book. Not suspicious at all, right.

The rest of your posts were you commenting lightly on something and spectating, some shitpost here and there and thats it.

Finally, my observation on you was completely accurate. You have never been a talkative player except at the endgame when there's no choice, but when you are townie you make accusations, build cases, contrast information, call out people's bs in a conversation, quote things, anything. This time you and your partner are just cruising it and the cherry on top is you are lying to me about it.

Very insightful converstation, keep talking.

 

[BlackTiger]

Could be, they should claim today or at least be helpful, something they still have to do.

--- Double Post Merged, Sep 9, 2020, Original Post Date: Sep 9, 2020 ---

Reveal your role as you promised yesterday.

I would revive by myself when I die.

 

[Marmalade]

Finally able to catch up properly rather than reading everything half and quickly, still need to catch up on like half of yesterdays dayphase so that will take awhile.

 

[Lambu]

Can you explain why we are 90% mafia in your eyes please? Is our behaviour suspicious in any way ? I'm sad to hear that.

Sorry Taku-chi, but I once again feel the scumminess in your posts, idk if you are making it on purpose to protect yourself from the actual scum at night (its a legit play tbh) but so far you are pretty good lynch material. You even followed Seraph's silly train of thought in the extension, come on.

We never promised anything. We said we were willing to reveal yesterday, people said there was no point to it, which i agreed with, so we decided to postpone the reveal until at least today. There was never a promise made.
Plus, we actually were willing to reveal, and we were also very fast to claim passive D1. Compared to a whole bunch of other players, i don't see how us not revealing is suspicious to you.

Im not going to votekill you cause I have to ask Vandred first, but damn I want to so much.

Reveal now so we have time to consider your case properly, if you reveal after you have 6 votes on you I would rather have you die to clean the doubt.

@Lambu please clarify what you don't like about the playstyle?

Everything?

Really, Raven is one thing but you are not playing as a vanilla townie at all.

I would revive by myself when I die.

 

[scav]

Mafia pirate