Games Mafia Game 94 - Magi: The Crests of Magic - END GAME

[Asako]

Here the results of everything

 

[Lady pompom]

Wait did my mind bug somehow, was @shinobi not the supposed paranoid spy?

 

[shinobi]

One of my targets literally got lynched yesterday, and they didn't have a secondary role. The same thing I posted the day phase before....

And I said I think you're orange too that's why I checked you

 

[Lady pompom]

And I said I think you're orange too that's why I checked you

If you are not paranoid, indeed he targeted Hardy for boost or something on those lines. Which would still mean he is not a blocker.

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I think if Hermit if mafia, he is with oranges along with Shobu, Farfy and Gry, but maybe he is not.

 

[MArGi]

@Lady pompom why not try to sickly me to make sure my claim as Healthy Town is true?

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@Demonspeed your EM is Sickly as well right?

 

[Erinyes]

Oh if Shinobi is sane spy and Hermit did indeed target Hardy, what action could have he performed ? if hardy ends up dying tomorrow then Hermit is definitely poisoner, and again, i cant see really other actions, maybe pirate. From townie side none make sense since Cresc has been blocked and theres no really protection left for him.

@MArGi whats your EM ?

 

[MArGi]

Oh if Shinobi is sane spy and Hermit did indeed target Hardy, what action could have he performed ? if hardy ends up dying tomorrow then Hermit is definitely poisoner, and again, i cant see really other actions, maybe pirate. From townie side none make sense since Cresc has been blocked and theres no really protection left for him.

@MArGi whats your EM ?

Bulletproof townie

 

[Erinyes]

@Lady pompom why not try to sickly me to make sure my claim as Healthy Town is true?

what is that supposed to prove ? she's on highest suspects list, she could say she used it noone will even know.

Oh bulletproof ok thxs.

What do you think of Pompom claim ?

 

[GrySun]

Bulletproof townie

remind me, why didn‘t you go through with your initial idea of getting more MV? The real Kouen would have 3!

But seriously, I believe you should enter a dungeon tonight. Perhaps the Negate.

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How do you use a passive role as an EM? It‘s valid for the next night after you select it? Kinda hard to use.

 

[Erinyes]

actually your healthy townie MV makes sense in a game with sickly and possibly sickly MV.

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How do you use a passive role as an EM? It‘s valid for the next night after you select it? Kinda hard to use.

was wondering that too, isnt EM supposed to be an active role ?

 

[Lady pompom]

@Lady pompom why not try to sickly me to make sure my claim as Healthy Town is true?

Hmm, right, but you see now I am in a tight spot because if I don’t sickly anyone, people will think I am doing something else. We can try, but not like I can give any comprovation besides my word. We can still try if people agree.

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what is that supposed to prove ? she's on highest suspects list, she could say she used it noone will even know.

Oh bulletproof ok thxs.

What do you think of Pompom claim ?

Well, If I can be sickly and demon can have a extreme magic sikly, why not?

 

[MArGi]

what is that supposed to prove ? she's on highest suspects list, she could say she used it noone will even know.

She claimed she didn't use it though?
As Townie, and since it's her secondary active role, surely she should have tried to make sure I am indeed a fellow Townie instead of not using it at all.
Then it would have been up to you guys to believe her or not of course

 

[Erinyes]

well im trying to figure who did cast that anonymous vote, i can think only of an MV (or most likely) .

Hmm, right, but you see now I am in a tight spot because if I don’t sickly anyone, people will think I am doing something else. We can try, but not like I can give any comprovation besides my word. We can still try if people agree.

Nope dont agree for that. if you use your sickly use it on someone who can get it, otherwise it looks like a scumish plan since both of you are pretty suspicious. That wont prove anything.

 

[Lady pompom]

Will not pretend I wasn’t confused on how this whole MV and EM work, I am a magician and all I know is info gois gave and the opening post. If it’s really her EM, a bit hard to use, she needs to predict good if she will be targeted with a killing action

 

[Erinyes]

Well, If I can be sickly and demon can have a extreme magic sikly, why not?

yep i know, same goes for avenger, the only thing is Margi could have used her action while demon couldnt.

 

[Lady pompom]

well im trying to figure who did cast that anonymous vote, i can think only of an MV (or most likely) .



Nope dont agree for that. if you use your sickly use it on someone who can get it, otherwise it looks like a scumish plan since both of you are pretty suspicious. That wont prove anything.

Okay. I will try using it on someone else then if I don’t go to any dungeon

 

[Hardy]

Oh if Shinobi is sane spy and Hermit did indeed target Hardy, what action could have he performed ? if hardy ends up dying tomorrow then Hermit is definitely poisoner, and again, i cant see really other actions, maybe pirate. From townie side none make sense since Cresc has been blocked and theres no really protection left for him.

@MArGi whats your EM ?

Tbf if he isn't poisoner I'm dead anyways now with this beautiful target on me

 

[Erinyes]

she needs to predict good if she will be targeted with a killing action

seriously that's pretty convenient. who would target a goi with such a role as healthy MV and wors,e BP as EM when theres tasty roles like doc, spy, det, etc still alive.

 

[Evil3ye]

OK, I finished work, have some time to formulate my thoughts now. Made in three categories, trying to explain the super list more and keep the others shorter, as I kind of feel these are the prime targets we should focus on today, because all of them seem dirty as hell. And the other sus scum can come later, depending on the inflow of new information in following days.

Super sus list
Gry - magician - Freeman claim + magi claim
I don't trust him since D1 and the infamous townie list. Selfblocked in N1, did magi action in N2 and selfblocked in N4, so he couldn't have been responsible for the atrocities on those days, doesn't mean his team wasn't. I would place him to the oranges, because of anti-town strategy he proposed on D3 in the Jinx result debate. He claimed among the last on D4, a role that shall never be claimed on top of all. In my opinion it's a double edge mafia bait/scare tactic for the townies, as well as the red team to not lynch or kill him, because it kind of seems Bomb-like. No one with a Freeman role claims freeman, you maybe claim some healthy townie or restless spirit role, that is no danger and no benefit for town and mafia, remember that before you buy his claim and hesitate to vote for him to skip day phases. His behaviour is through and through mafia. That D3 thing aside, he has tried to deliberately exclude some people from his suspects lists, trying to flatter them and win them on his side. He admitted to be "wrong" so many times, that you would just have to ask yourselves, when was the last time you saw him play so badly. He's one of the best mafia players, and he couldn't figure out James was a great lynch and made a super shaky vote which he wasn't able to properly explain, he didn't want to lynch Farfalla, rather wait for an other Det result and to exclude (blabla, cutting this short, made my point here several times). He is clearly deceiving town on purpose while playing mind games with us by announing to boost Farfalla N2 (baiting and diverting Spies while having no risk to boost a good townie or the reds by accident), declares himself Freeman D4 (baiting Doc to target him and leave Jinx open), while maintaining the appearance of an innocent townie who is being victimised by both mafia teams and set up for a lynch. Savest lynch in Mafia history, trust me.

Pompom - magician - Bulletproof claim + Sickly townie claim
She started out solid, asked on D2 who to target and cooperated, from D4 though there has been a big red shadow in her wake. Mainly because of the reluctance to use Sickly and clear herself from suspicions. This shadow just became even bigger by also skipping N4 for the sickly action. The logic behind it makes little sense. She can very much be forced to not use the sickly by the fact that she needs to perform kills, while the team mate does some escort [Edit: or rather other] action. I am not buying the whole demotivational story.

Brandish - magician - Avanger claim
He deceived us to be a goi on D1 while not entering a dungeon and using an night action instead. Next day to blend in with his previous claim he went to the 4th lol-dungeon and both Scary and myself ended up voting for him. D3 the dungeon was still there and he was exposed as magician. I believe he wanted to keep pretending to be a goi while using his kill actions later in game, but missed the chance to back out on that day, after the game has taken a sudden turn (assassination of digital) and we had the movement to go to dungeons to shorten the suspects list. D4 he had very weird votes, killing Pompom, then switched to Gry. I would place him to red mafia, so he didn't care which either would die that day.

Demon - goi - MV: Restless Spirit EM: Sickly claim
Demon did a good job staying out of the spotlight for the longest time. Was on nobodies radar and looked like a very poor unlucky goi, that just wouldn't get any role. Once he got the MV it looked like he's faking the role, because they are just so weako. Like your one shot super power is Sickly? D; poor guy. I don't think those are your roles though. I suspect you might have something to do with the weird Anon vote yesterday from your MV, or even responsible for one of the deaths. I think this is the vacant orange goi. You are one of the early D3 Belsa locked voters. Also you only voted Shobu D4 when it didn't matter anymore (from Gry which I also suspect to be orange, but maybe has a worse role).

Sus list
Hermit - magician - Psycho claim
Was suspecting him to be responsible for giving digital the MV, but he voted to kill James last so at best he is orange team. Conflicting results with shinobi today, but I wouldn't vote for him today based on that alone.
Shinobi - magician - Spy claim
Very weird results for the first three days. D4 also conflicting with what Hermit said, and sort of looks like a setup to get him killed, but could just be unlucky paranoid in this game, so wouldn't vote today either.
Haya - magician - Doctor claim
Increasingly getting also more suspicious for the longevity of the role, but the role hints started from D1 up until the relatively early reveal on D3. There were no hickups with previous hints and targets seemed also very logical. Can't fully be sure to put to the non sus list.
Margi - goi - MV: Healthy townie claim EM undisclosed
Now margi was also one of the cases I was lowkey suspicious of from D2, after the receiving of MV was announced. She got it while contesting it from Panda, who died in the same dungeon. The non disclosure of EM adds up to the suspicion (or did I miss it) and MV is also very lol, although plausible with Sickly around. Would be the orange goi.
Seraph - goi - nothing
Thinking he could be the last orange goi instead of Demon, but he just keeps going to dungeons without ever getting anything from it, which is sort of funny/sad. He voted Farfalla though on D3 pretty earlyish so I think he is more trustworthy than Demon.

Not sus list
Erin - magician - Police claim + magi claim
Claim makes sense and death count adds up with the blocked Assassin kill. No reason to suspect.
Jinx - magician - Detective claim
Claim makes sense and got us an Assassin killed, no reason to suspect.
Hardy - goi - MV: Avanger EM: Unskilled claim
Pretty solid town play so far, cannot be orange goi either for killing both Farfalla and Shobu, so we cool here.
Belsa - goi - MV: Burden EM: Hider claim
Was confirmed by Jinx, no reason to suspect.

 

[Erinyes]

Okay. I will try using it on someone else then if I don’t go to any dungeon

Why would you even go in a dungeon ? you re magician, if you go in a dungeon, arent you going to ruin any chance to cast NVD on someone.

 

[Hardy]

As much as I think Brandish is 100% scum Pom arbitrarily not using her sickly AGAIN is suspicious as all hell. For no reason, after saying she would.

Let's say she targets Margi tomorrow. She is sickly on healthy so we won't know. Shino is most likely paranoid so if Pom is targeted by her, the result doesn't matter at all.

Like this she can kill anyway.

This is a trap.

seriously that's pretty convenient. who would target a goi with such a role as healthy MV and wors,e BP as EM when theres tasty roles like doc, spy, det, etc still alive.

I mean the idea could be that she doesn't outright reveal her garbage.