Discussion Mafia Game "Discussion" Thread v.7

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oh and I will add all the new used roles to the first post, so they might get used in future games. Will nerf the" Investigator" a bit and add a "Naive Investigator"
No! Call him Amateur Investigator. Maybe there can also be a tweak where he only learns the hidden role on a coin flip. If it's tails he gets a randomized wrong role instead. The role on its own is useless if it's always wrong. Him never learning the correct role should only be included if there's a normal Investigator in the game. Sort of how there are always more than one kind of Doctor or Detective if the game is large enough.

The Forensic Investigator is a bit different on the wiki. He can target dead players and learn who targeted them at night with any action. So you get a list of all the people who tried to protect him, block him, investigate him, and then who killed him, but not specifically what each person did. Or in the right order. That sounds interesting too.
 

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No, it's not about you joining. It's about what you said. Basically, for me to play again, you need to die and even that may not be enough.
aww i get it. THen go ahead and try to lynch me on first day if you can that is.stahp being a chicken and sign up :heh
 

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He can target dead players and learn who targeted them at night with any action. So you get a list of all the people who tried to protect him, block him, investigate him, and then who killed him, but not specifically what each person did. Or in the right order. That sounds interesting too.
Sounds even more OP.
 

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And about the talking going on here at night. I actually think it was better this game than the last several. Which is a nice sign given this was the largest game yet. It's gotten better in general since Sakura hasn't played actually. This thread was locked on a couple occasions and I actually think it worked and talk didn't spill over much at all elsewhere. So I think the next host should try to keep an eye on this thread more and lock the thread once the talk seems to be going the wrong way.

Innocent reactions are fine to a point. It's when people starting arguing and teasing too much that there's too much info going out *cough*nuno*cough*themoa*cough*

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aww i get it. THen go ahead and try to lynch me on first day if you can that is.stahp being a chicken and sign up :heh
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No, you got it wrong. You don't need to die in the Mafia game. You need to die in the real life.

And what Gary stated sounds fun, but yeah, too OP. That would end up pinpointing some roles pretty quickly and the Mafia will get destroyed if they don't shut the Investigator down.
 

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No! Call him Amateur Investigator. Maybe there can also be a tweak where he only learns the hidden role on a coin flip. If it's tails he gets a randomized wrong role instead. The role on its own is useless if it's always wrong. Him never learning the correct role should only be included if there's a normal Investigator in the game. Sort of how there are always more than one kind of Doctor or Detective if the game is large enough.

The Forensic Investigator is a bit different on the wiki. He can target dead players and learn who targeted them at night with any action. So you get a list of all the people who tried to protect him, block him, investigate him, and then who killed him, but not specifically what each person did. Or in the right order. That sounds interesting too.
so basically a townie mentor...

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Sounds even more OP.
It isn't to me. It's not even really similar to the one we used. Instead of negating the Janitor role, the player only learns of the presence of others around the player's death, but no specifics at all.

---------- Post added at 06:43 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:42 PM ----------

so basically a townie mentor...
...no :oh
 

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Don't forget to take scav, who was happy to see me dead, to heaven with you :^_^

It isn't to me. It's not even really similar to the one we used. Instead of negating the Janitor role, the player only learns of the presence of others around the player's death, but no specifics at all.
Well, suppose someone pulled an Adi and claimed the Freeman role. Then, nobody would bother trying to protect the Freeman if it's an early stage, and they wouldn't target her, aside from the Investigator and the Mafia. And the only result Investigator would get was a member killing the Freeman, which would mean getting a Mafia.
 

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It isn't to me. It's not even really similar to the one we used. Instead of negating the Janitor role, the player only learns of the presence of others around the player's death, but no specifics at all.
How many people usually target a single person? usually none, if that person is killed 1, and if another bastard targets him 2 (although it isn't what usually happens). You can easily get 2 mafias in 2 straight nights (if someone different does the killing obviously).
 

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so basically a townie mentor...

edit...sorry...mentee
Still no :lmao

Well, suppose someone pulled an Adi and claimed the Freeman role. Then, nobody would bother trying to protect the Freeman if it's an early stage, and they wouldn't target her, aside from the Investigator and the Mafia. And the only result Investigator would get was a member killing the Freeman, which would mean getting a Mafia.
I understand your point, but I don't think that situation occurs often enough for it to break the game.
 

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Jorped told me that they killed solely because you were spamming with those votes.spamming is just rude mkay?
What are you talking about? I was killed by the Insane Doctor, not Mafia :XD
 

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im in too. cant miss the OP theme.
 

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I understand your point, but I don't think that situation occurs often enough for it to break the game.
But still, what Hardy says sounds legit. If there are only a few people targeting a single person, and that person is really someone who is going to be targeted by logic, the role becomes too strong.
I guess the thing that balances out it here is the fact that he needs to survive to a point where Townies know who will be getting targeted that night. In the early random phase, he's pretty useless and since it doesn't have a protection, he can't come out and claim the role to clear his name, either. That determines his chances about the game.
 

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How many people usually target a single person? usually none, if that person is killed 1, and if another bastard targets him 2 (although it isn't what usually happens). You can easily get 2 mafias in 2 straight nights (if someone different does the killing obviously).
True, but it goes both ways. The FI can also reveal Townies with nighttime abilities to the Mafia or Third Party. It's both Pro and Anti Town in my opinion.
 
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