Mard Geer VS Ajeel


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"Indirectly inherit" sounds more like he originally learned Dragon Slaying magic from Igneel as a kid, but eventually managed to unlock DF on his own. How could Igneel have empowered him anyway? We never saw Natsu eating his flames, so does he have "psychic powers" or something? And DF through external help should be better than natural DF since it has more than Natsu's power to it, just like the original Fire Dragon King mode (in which Natsu ACTUALLY had Igneel's power) was better than when he was only using his own power to activate this mode.

You REALLY think a Devil Slayer 10 times more powerful than Tartaros Gray won't have ANY resistance to Memento Mori? You REALLY think someone intangible doesn't have the slightest chance to escape MM's immobilizing fog? You REALLY think that with ALL the 9 Demon Gates' powers, Bloodman won't have anything to distract/slow down Mard? (Btw I doubt your theory of Mard soloing all 9DG, but mostly because Silver is a more experienced Devil Slayer than Gray)
"how did igneel empower him" POF obv and none of this really changes the fact that mard geer no sold a NDF DSSA + Igneel enchanted like nothing

Hows he 10x more powerful and gray only got resitance becuase

1. Plot
2.he was a half demon + DS

Thats why gray managed to tank it. andyeah he could solo and silver wont be a factor since mard knows him and will just blitz him instead of toying around with him
 

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"how did igneel empower him" POF obv and none of this really changes the fact that mard geer no sold a NDF DSSA + Igneel enchanted like nothing

Hows he 10x more powerful and gray only got resitance becuase

1. Plot
2.he was a half demon + DS

Thats why gray managed to tank it. andyeah he could solo and silver wont be a factor since mard knows him and will just blitz him instead of toying around with him
I doubt Natsu was using much POF since his situation wasn't THAT desperate, I mean he wasn't drained or on the verge of death. But yeah, POF or not, I don't deny tanking something like that is impressive and could scale Mard's durability to a Spriggan's if not a bit more. But what about offense? Many Spriggans have FAR more offensive power than a Tartaros Natsu's DF Secret Art, so I doubt Mard could tank their attacks so easily. As for Mard, he either has Thorns which can easily be dodged, or Memento Mori which takes a while to be cast. That's why I doubt Mard could beat most Spriggans, but in this case, Ajeel IS arrogant enough to get close and take his time, so it doesn't matter who has more raw power, he WILL get wide open for MM.

Devil Slayers ALL have resistances to demonic curses, it makes sense since they're supposed to fight demons. And any Spriggan is LEAGUES above Tartaros Gray since even Alvalez Gray (who was stronger than in Tartaros) needed specific near-immunity to Invel's element to beat him, so if he had fought any other Spriggan, he would've been hardstomped (except of course for demonic ones like Bloodman or Larcade thanks to his Slayer advantage, nothing to do with raw power).

If Gray's half-demon form really made a difference, Bloodman is a FULL demon so he should be even more resistant. And Mard may know Silver, but Silver knows him too, the only true difference is that Silver has more raw power than Gray (even in ALVALEZ Gray had no-feat such as freezing a whole village!) and experience at fighting demons, so while I still think Mard would beat him in a 1 VS 1 fight, it'd be hard-diff. So if all the other DG are helping Silver (thus distracting Mard even more than Natsu), I don't see Mard winning.
 
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I doubt Natsu was using much POF since his situation wasn't THAT desperate, I mean he wasn't drained or on the verge of death. But yeah, POF or not, I don't deny tanking something like that is impressive and could scale Mard's durability to a Spriggan's if not a bit more. But what about offense? Many Spriggans have FAR more offensive power than a Tartaros Natsu's DF Secret Art, so I doubt Mard could tank their attacks so easily. As for Mard, he either has Thorns which can easily be dodged, or Memento Mori which takes a while to be cast. That's why I doubt Mard could beat most Spriggans, but in this case, Ajeel IS arrogant enough to get close and take his time, so it doesn't matter who has more raw power, he WILL get wide open for MM.

Devil Slayers ALL have resistances to demonic curses, it makes sense since they're supposed to fight demons. And any Spriggan is LEAGUES above Tartaros Gray since even Alvalez Gray (who was stronger than in Tartaros) needed specific near-immunity to Invel's element to beat him, so if he had fought any other Spriggan, he would've been hardstomped (except of course for demonic ones like Bloodman or Larcade thanks to his Slayer advantage, nothing to do with raw power).

If Gray's half-demon form really made a difference, Bloodman is a FULL demon so he should be even more resistant. And Mard may know Silver, but Silver knows him too, the only true difference is that Silver has more raw power than Gray (even in ALVALEZ Gray had no-feat such as freezing a whole village!) and experience at fighting demons, so while I still think Mard would beat him in a 1 VS 1 fight, it'd be hard-diff. So if all the other DG are helping Silver (thus distracting Mard even more than Natsu), I don't see Mard winning.
I'll respond later if thats cool cause i am currently rewatching tartaros arc to get more feats on mard geer (since i forgot most of his) and i think that it is safe to say that mard geer mindrapes all of the spriggans (like how he did to warren)
 

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i think that it is safe to say that mard geer mindrapes all of the spriggans (like how he did to warren)
How exactly is he "mindraping" a Spriggan? Because he mindraped a fodder who could get one-shot by literally anyone semi-worthwhile?

Spriggans can one-shot him with broken hax, Dimaria, Brandish, and Jacob, for example, others like God Serena, Irene, and August could beat him with plain brute force.
 

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Mard never mind fudged Warren....he just invaded his telepathy when he was communicating with others

I took the bait I know
 

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Mard never mind fudged Warren....he just invaded his telepathy when he was communicating with others

I took the bait I know
Forgot about that, didn't he just interrupt Warren and used it to introduce himself?
 

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How exactly is he "mindraping" a Spriggan? Because he mindraped a fodder who could get one-shot by literally anyone semi-worthwhile?

Spriggans can one-shot him with broken hax, Dimaria, Brandish, and Jacob, for example, others like God Serena, Irene, and August could beat him with plain brute force.
what makes you think he can't mindrape the spriggans? oh cause they are stronger then him?dont think so
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Mard never mind fudged Warren....he just invaded his telepathy when he was communicating with others

I took the bait I know
Dunno how invading telepathy can hurt someones mind lol
 

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what makes you think he can't mindrape the spriggans? oh cause they are stronger then him?dont think so
Pretty much, yeah. You're literally comparing one of the weakest characters in the series to some of the strongest characters in the main series.

You think just because he negated Warren's telepathy he could mindraoe a Spriggan?
 

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Pretty much, yeah. You're literally comparing fodder to some of the strongest characters in the main series.

You think just because he negated Warren's telepathy he could mindraoe a Spriggan?
yeah i do since we did not saw the mard geers FP and he was still toying around with Post 2nd origin natsu,sting and rouge + he reflected stings light attack and absorbed rouges shadow so he can easily absorb magic from other spriggans.
 

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yeah i do since we did not saw the mard geers FP and he was still toying around with Post 2nd origin natsu,sting and rouge + he reflected stings light attack and absorbed rouges shadow so he can easily absorb magic from other spriggans.
Dude, any Spriggan would stomp them harder than Mard did.

Let me ask you this.

How does he contend with Serena's spamming?
How does he get out of Dimaria's Age Seal?
How does he beat Jacob's Transport?
How does he stop Brandish from bursting his insides?
How does he stop Invel from using Ice Slave?
How does he contend with Bloodman who has every Curse and Hax that Tartaros does?
 

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It won't be an easy match but Ajeel.
 

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Mard no diffs even in base

Dude, any Spriggan would stomp them harder than Mard did.

Let me ask you this.

How does he contend with Serena's spamming?
How does he get out of Dimaria's Age Seal?
How does he beat Jacob's Transport?
How does he stop Brandish from bursting his insides?
How does he stop Invel from using Ice Slave?
How does he contend with Bloodman who has every Curse and Hax that Tartaros does?
just saw this lol

should i respond back?
 
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