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[Dragonzair]

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Mighty Avengers:

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Tony's definitely not dead as other titles prove that. But I have a feeling he is not going to be with the team anymore, and I think that's what Joe Q meant when he said that the team roster (in the previews/cover we've seen; before MA came out) isn't the correct one.

The Initiative issue showed the Mighty Avengers battling without Tony (when they got saved by that electric girl-thingy). Proof that he just wasn't in the back ground at that time, was during the bus trip. That exact same girl was talking to her friend on her phone and mentioned about getting to see Tony and asking for an autograph, so I doubt she saw him then.

That's fine with me. XD But I'll miss the weird thought balloons he does, I guess. He doesn't seem to be thinking much in his own title. >_>

X Men: I absolutely have no frikkin' idea anymore. I'm jsut reading it because it's got X-villains, and it cracks me up. To be honest though, if it weren't for Sabretooth or Mystique, I probably wouldn't be reading this.

But I'm also excited about issue #200. Did they say that would be the base for Endangered Speicies? I'm waiting for that.

Ultimate X Men:

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Dude, Hank not being dead is alright, but the way they explained was kinda lame. AND LEGACY VIRUS!. Dude.

Shadow King is what I'm waiting for, though.

And Ken-chan, glad to see you liking Exiles. I forgot to mention the reason I started reading it (minus the fact that Psylocke was going to appear there) was because of AoA Sabretooth and Blink <3

 

[Gold Knight]

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Yeah, that was a little amazing how Black Adam seemed to hold his own just fine against the entire DC universe minus Superman, Batman, Flash, and Wonder Woman.

I'm thinking that Captain Marvel and Black Adam are both possibly the most powerful superheroes in the DC universe right now, but I'm not sure at all. The strength of certain DC characters seem to go up and down depending on wthe writer. But I do think that Captain Marvel hasn't even met his potential yet - far from it. Black Adam on the other hand, has lived much longer.

Btw for DZ: I found the New Mutants Graphic Novel that first introduced Dani, Sam, and the original New Mutants:

http://rapidshare.com/files/27181821/Marvel_Graphic_Novel_4_-_New_Mutants.zip.html

Keep in mind that New Mutants had a lot of crossovers with Uncanny X-Men and X-Factor early on. New Mutants 1-3 actually started off as part of a X-Men storyarc called "The Brood."

 

[Lohnt]

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Personally I'm still enjoying X-men, and I still feel this is the best team since "first class" however, perhaps because I haven't been following x-men since the 70's/for years I lack the knowledge of all these villains they keep facing that really get little explanation and make me very confused.

On the other hand, when they faced the Vault, the new villains and I knew what was going on, I freaking LOVED the storyline because I actually knew what was going on.

Yea 200 is supposed to start the endangered species, Magneto is going to return, and one of Rogue's team will die supposedly..
Sabretooth is a badass btw XD

 

[Gold Knight]

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Yeah, you almost have to take a history lesson in X-Men to know what's going on in some of these books sometimes. It's one of the biggest chronological challenges I've ever seen in comics too - they had so many spin off titles and crossovers with other books!

But I just found out the other day that there are torrents out there that archive the X-Men chronologically (here.) so you may want to look into it if you really are interested in learning more. If not then I recommend wikipedia - they do cover a lot of X-Men stuff too. ^^

 

[manu]

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I think black adam's secret word is going to be "Forgive" because thats the last thing he'll do. Hopefully by they he becomes a good guy again.

Is it me or does DC universe have a whole lot of bad guys just waiting to make a comeback stronger than ever. First there is the Joker, the Superboy Prime, now Black Adam if he stays evil... Just saying they are practically setting themselves up for something nasty.

 

[Lohnt]

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Anyone else reading and enjoying Nova?
I got interested because of the Annihilation series, and I'm thoroughly enjoying it now.. he reminds me of DC, but in Marvel "magical" storytelling. Plus he's going to fight director Ironman =D

I'm just afraid he's a bit overpowered, but hey, a lot of the current Marvel heroes are..

 

[Gold Knight]

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I've meant to download Nova 1 for a while now, I'll do that now. The cover is great if nothing else.

EDIT: Read it, and the art's great. The story reminds me a bit of Quasar (old Marvel comic) except a lot more fast-paced and probably better. I'm on board for that one too

And man, I just have to say, Iron Man - I LOVE his armor right now. This is probably the one I'd like to see him keep for good. (I've always thought they could improve on it but this is probably the best I've seen it.)

 

[Ichimaru Gin n Tonic]

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I think the word for Black Adam is "52".

I'm also enjoying Nova.

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Compared to Civil War, even with the action and all that, I still prefer Anihillation storyline. I was really hoping the Anihillation Wave would hit Planet Saakar, so that Mean Green can take care of what Anihillus started without any help.

 

[qwan3356]

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I really enjoyed Nova, can't wait to see him battle in the next issue.

And i think Black Adam's word is something like "love" or "forgive".

 

[Lohnt]

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Somehow, in some absurd logical way I sincerely hope all these short series guys force the Mighty avengers (minus Ares and maybe Sentry) to retire and take over.

The upcoming short series guys are:
Nova (already started)
Namor
Thor
Ghost Rider (sorta)

And throw in Bucky for good measure, we need some Winter Soldier goodness to remind people Civil War happened, but with this team that Marvel is finally moving on.
I really would love to hear the banter between Thor and Ares when facing some ridiculously overpowered enemy that is a little goofy...

 

[Dragonzair]

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^Seriously can't wait for Namor's title to come. Still a few more months to go. Thor's is coming out when, though? Can't wait for Coipel's art <3 <3

Out of all the people you mentioned though, I'd really like a Winter Soldier title the most. XD

 

[Gold Knight]

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Well, I have to admit Marvel does seem to be moving into a good story-telling direction. I was very dubious about the whole Civil War concept and I DON'T think it was written all that well, but now I'm kind of seeing how it could evolve into a whole lot of good stories. Hopefully they don't disappoint.

I read New Avengers. Liking it so far too.

Dunno about Initiative, will have to wait and see on that one. I felt bad for MVP.

 

[Lohnt]

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MVP will resurface somehow, I felt worst for Cloud 9 and the girl who lost her gauntlet

 

[Gold Knight]

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Armory? Yeah... that was pretty downright cruel of them. Especially since it wasn't her fault so much as it was the people who wanted to go ahead and test Trauma's powers without even thinking about the consequences. Pretty sloppy job for a bunch of people who think they're better than the New Warriors.

 

[qwan3356]

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I hope MVP comes back, he had so much promise, and i think what they did to Armory was overkill, she should of had another try or something. On the other hand Trauma's powers are frightening.

 

[manu]

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Wow... I miss Captain America mostly because his comics were a whole lot interesting then Spiderman's lately but so far stories of his death have been pretty decent too.

Fallen Son - The Death of Captain America 002 (2007) (Archangel-DCP)

http://www.gigasize.com/get.php/1230642/Fallen_Son__The_Death_of_Captain_America_02_2007_noads_ArchangelDCP.cbr

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One thing we learn here is that both Hawkeye and Patriot are with the New Avengers. So that means that the Young Avengers are broken up. 'Cause I think we say Stature, Billy and Ted (one of the cutest couples in comics ever) aka, Hulkling and Wiccan. And I think Vision went with Stature since he loves her or something. And since Patriot said we (instead of us which is what people use with 2 people) I think Speed stayed with Hawkeye. And you'd think after having so many people die in his life Pete wouldn't be so... emotional.

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Plus everything every one is saying they wish they changed would have taken a lot of the bite in Avengers Initiative that we've been hooked on by the first chapter.

 

[Venom65437]

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Hey everyone. Sorry I haven't been very active on the comics board lately, I've switched from getting my comics at the shop to getting a monthly shipment, so once that is in order I should be back talking comics... fashionably late of course.

 

[Dragonzair]

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Fashionably late is good

Cloud 9's currently my fave amongst the Initiative trainees, along with Trauma. But I do hope MVP returns. He was such a cool character. And you were right. One of you (can't remeber who) predicted that MVP wasn't given any serum at all and was just a perfect body.

Beh. I hate Gyrich. HATEHATEHATE. It's his fault MVP's dead (who I hope will come back somehow), and Armory out of the rank, and a whole lotta other stuff.

Admitedlly, I really feel for Justice, especially when he sees how Gauntlet trains and calls the trainees New Warriors and such. It's the anti-reg person in me speaking. XD

I agree with qwan, Trauma's powers are goddamn scary. And the way they draw him transforming irks the shit out of me so much (in a horrifying way), that I really want to see it on screen. XD

manu:

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Yeah, I was pretty happy seeing the Young Avengers (even if it's only two of them) in there.

Though I do remember reading that there wouldbe a Volume 2 for YA, involving the return of Iron Lad. So Hawkeye and Patriot won't probably stay with NA. Which shows in the NA title, and the Initiative covers which features all the YA.

I think they're with the Initiative unwillingly, with Cassie being the only one who has no remorse of being there, or something.

And I'm off to read the Anihillation saga, thanks to refii's links. XD I'm not really all that hyped about outer-space stuff in the Marvel U. but I've been hearing a whole lotta good stuff about it, so I'm giving it a shot.

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Oooh yeah. Was I the only one smugly enjoying the fact that Hank Pym was downright distressed in the Initiative ish? XD

 

[manu]

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Well it was me who predicted the whole MVP being a normal human being since obviously if the doctor took it on himself he would have been buff and not skinny and all. Also if MVP had powers then losing his awards wouldn't be so tough. But if he honestly earned them then of course he would be po'd. Though I still think he could have been a superhero given the right armor and training since Hawkeye's never had powers it just a god-damn shame that his corpse is going to be used. I thinik that he'll either become some kinda robo clone, maybe a mix of him and Clor or they turn him into the next secret ingredient for the Super Soldier experiement.

Also Punisher War Journal is getting exciting.

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I think the Punisher just declared himself the next Captain America

And finally WWH is starting with two new comics. I guess it has really started since no one has actually heard the battle cry "Hulk Smash!" but Jen knows and so does Cho.

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Though I'm really dissappointed in Reed. I know that World War Hulk is all about the Illuminati vs. Hulk but shouldn't "Mr. Fantastic" be on his honeymoon?

Amazing Spiderman is finally coming around. So far it seems to be all about the art though. I guess Spiderman is trying to cross the line or something. Seems like he wants to kill at least. Not sure if he will, probably wont get the chance but he's going to break a lot of laws.

 

[Dragonzair]

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Well it was me who predicted the whole MVP being a normal human being since obviously if the doctor took it on himself he would have been buff and not skinny and all. Also if MVP had powers then losing his awards wouldn't be so tough. But if he honestly earned them then of course he would be po'd. Though I still think he could have been a superhero given the right armor and training since Hawkeye's never had powers it just a god-damn shame that his corpse is going to be used. I thinik that he'll either become some kinda robo clone, maybe a mix of him and Clor or they turn him into the next secret ingredient for the Super Soldier experiement.

Also Punisher War Journal is getting exciting.

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I think the Punisher just declared himself the next Captain America

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Hell yeah he did. XD Frank is just geting more and more awesome. XD I was never interested in the Punisher until they started War Journal.

And finally WWH is starting with two new comics. I guess it has really started since no one has actually heard the battle cry "Hulk Smash!" but Jen knows and so does Cho.

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Though I'm really dissappointed in Reed. I know that World War Hulk is all about the Illuminati vs. Hulk but shouldn't "Mr. Fantastic" be on his honeymoon?

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Yeah, I think Marvel's messed up with their timeline Or there is a definite timeline, only that the titles we're reading aren't really sticking to it, and are in different...er...time.

This may be before he tried to fix his marraige. I'm trying to think up of the timeline right now:

Cap dies.

Weeks (or was it a month? Can't rmember) later, Tony is annouced as new Director of SHIELD, while Susan returns home.

Mighty Avengers is formed.

New Avengers fight Might Avengers, then leave for Japan, yadda yadda.

(somewhere along the Mighty Avengers forming and before the events of Iron Man #16, Tony sleeps with She-Hulk *urk ><*) << Definitely before Iron Man #16 because apparently, Tony's in love with Maya Hansen and is sleeping with her? o_O

Jen finds about her cousin, then everything that is currently happeing in She Hulk and Incredile Hulk is taking place.

Sue and Reed try to fix their marraige, T'Challa and Ororo take their place in Fantastic Four.

And so on and so forth.

Really, I'm just guessing >.> I can't figure out whic is the current timing in it >.>

Amazing Spiderman is finally coming around. So far it seems to be all about the art
though. I guess Spiderman is trying to cross the line or something. Seems like he wants to kill at least. Not sure if he will, probably wont get the chance but he's going to break a lot of laws.

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Yeah. I mean, stealing a NYDP car, punching a guy and planning on killing him, breaking into a dude's apartment and showing up in public. And no one's even trying to apprehend him. I seemingly believe now, that the public really aren't as against the anti-regs people as the Civil War series made us believe. o.O Or was that just me?

Anywho, I'm still confused as to how Peter's attitude is different in different titles. And One More Day seem to be taking place before the current issues in New Avengers? I'd think that someone close to him would die there, or maybe it occurs after NA. But yeah.

I seriously CANNOT wait for that issue with Pete covering Tony up (armor and all!) in webs! HELL YEAH. And this is webs coming out of him. Oh lovely! <3

And New X Men!

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I am pawning for the next issue! Do you think Josh can do something about the mutant gene?

AND DUDE. I am seriously tired of writers going after the younger X Men to look for new X-deaths D: Seriously. Enough! I like them too much, and it's not fair anymore D: D: D:

AND HELL YEAH. I can't wait for NA. That's the issue they're revealing who Ronin is.