Discussion Merlin

[kkck]

Elizabeth is supposed to be the apostle of the goddess, her power is bound to be unique. To boot the demon clan seems to have had a rare combination of powerful members along with being numerous. Even now their force seems to be immensely powerful and they only released 10 of them. There are still god knows how many red and grey demons out there along with a demon king. The demon clan seems to be numerous and has more powerful individuals so far. Not a single human we have ever seen in the manga seems to even come close to any of the sins so far and hendricksen himself pointed out that meliodas had power which far outclassed zarathras. Basically the strongest human the manga has ever suggested is nothing in the grand scheme of things. Humans have had 3000 years to prosper and even now they seem to fall short of the demon clan. Camelot, a rising power was almost helpless to protect its borders against a 3000 year old dumb weapon... If the humans were alone in this then it would probably take every single holy knight in britania to defeat them and even that with difficulty considering how they have fared against hendricksen and albion.

 

[Holt]

I wonder if Mel is the demon king or perhaps the previous demon king. He must have been a pretty important demon figure in the demon clan.

 

[Notice me Escanor senpai]

What isn't speculative though as we've seen with Elizabeth is at the very least their magic is harmful to demons and at least is capable of negating their strength. Again we don't actually know much about their magic aside from what Elizabeth has given us a glimpse of, and the fact that they seem to need a medium to act on their behalf, but we have seen at least that their magic is effective against demons.

Edit: At least from what I can tell it seems the Goddess clan magic is specifically harmful to demons while completely harmless and even beneficial to everything else based on Elizabeth's short stint against Hendricksen.
http://manga.redhawkscans.com/reader/read/the_seven_deadly_sins/en/0/97/page/8
http://manga.redhawkscans.com/reader/read/the_seven_deadly_sins/en/0/97/page/9

I agree the Goddess clan are prolly opposite in nature to the demons so their power could be associated with everything holy while the demon's power is unholy. That's oversimplifying things but the way I see it is that the Goddess power is one of the things that can affect the demons the most not to mention they have quite a few techniques to seal demons like the amber. However in terms of firepower the demons could be superior that's why the goddess allied themselves with other races. There is also the issue of sealing the demons instead of killing them so either the demons cannot be killed as they would just regenerate (higher demons) or the goddess weren't powerful enough to kill them. I'm not sure this was answered in the manga either way it does look like the demons are superior overall or else Hendricksen wouldn't have sought their power even though he's a druid who reveres nature and worships tthe goddess which i think both are connected.
Concerning Merlin I really think the Goddess clan would fit. The other option would be the demons but that would make her the second person in the group with that connection. But seeing how both Ban and Escanor are listed as humans with Ban being a former human I think the same could apply to her and Mel. She could be the hybrid while Mel is the full blood demon, or she's a former demon and mel is a demon hybrid and vice versa. Either way I think her origin will be relevant maybe even to the plot or else why keep it secret when all the other sins were revealed? Or maybe i'm reading too much into this...

 

[Hamy]

Or maybe i'm reading too much into this...

I read the same way so :P

That said I don't think we're grasping at straws here in so much that knowing how fanbooks are usually built they wanted to keep a piece of information a secret for non-serious reasons we'd usually have something else written instead of unknown, usually a playful emoticon. In this case it just appears to be withheld for plot reasons than Merlin just wanting to be secretive, as we'd seen with Dianne and her own bio whose weight say "It’s a secret!".

 

[Beatrice]

I wonder if Mel is the demon king or perhaps the previous demon king. He must have been a pretty important demon figure in the demon clan.

He most likely is.
Got a theory in regards to that.

Spoiler

We already got the 10 commandments with the Demons.

One of the most well known symbol in religion is the Holy Trinity of God.

Son is God.
Father is God.
Holy Spirit is God.

Son is neither Father nor the Holy Spirit.
Father is neither Holy Spirit nor the Son.
Holy Spirit is neither Son nor the Father.

It's most likely a reverse of that.

Meliodas is not Zeldris nor Estarossa.
Estarossa is not Meliodas nor Zeldris.
Zeldris is not Estarossa nor Meliodas.

Still:
Meliodas = ???
Estarossa = ???
Zeldris = ???

Most likely the opposite of God since we already have the Demonic 10 Commandments.
So the Demon King.
Probably taking it as well that the 3 are each a shard of him, or perhaps even personality.
Ego, SuperEgo, Id.

The 4 Races couldn't defeat him, but only split him apart.
Zeldris and Estarossa were sealed away.
Meliodas was kept cause he's the good third of them as well as to prevent the 3 pieces to reunite when sealed.
Thus, he was allowed to exist under conditions, which was as the Champion of the Goddesses of sorts, to prevent the Demons from arising once more.
Potentially he broke a condition by becoming lovers with Liz (Who I believe is also an Apostle), and it led to the destruction of Danafor caused/manipulated/pulled strings by the Goddess Clan to set an example.
Now he engages with Elizabeth another Apostle (Cause Mel refuses to be their lapdog any longer) being why they gave Ban the Mission to kill him.

Merlin is probably a Goddess (to fulfill the set of the races) who is aware and was banished cause she befriended Meliodas while being attracted for her hunger to learn about Demons , a piece of the Demon King and refused to play along with the ways of the Goddess.

 

[Notice me Escanor senpai]

I personally think that Mel is the son of the demon king, and that he's like Sparda in THE dmc series. He helped seal away the demons and decided to live among humans, but it's also possible that those 3 are part of the demon king. The fact that the vampire chick confused him with Zeldris could mean that they have the same aura or whatever.

 

[Sajuukkhar]

The fact that the vampire chick confused him with Zeldris could mean that they have the same aura or whatever.

And the same voice, and the same face.

 

[Incognitop]

It seems Merlin can manipulate demons to some extent. If you check the merlin side story I posted in the NNT spinoff thread she changed the demon parasite to cure the king.
She also confirms that she is a "black magic user"

 

[Notice me Escanor senpai]

And the same voice, and the same face.

She said that while he was still wearing the helmet, or maybe she saw a "vid" of him lol.

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It seems Merlin can manipulate demons to some extent. If you check the merlin side story I posted in the NNT spinoff thread she changed the demon parasite to cure the king.
She also confirms that she is a "black magic user"

That's interesting, actually this would tie with what we have seen previously of her being interested in studying demon magic, and having a certain disdain for the healing magic of the druids. But I'm still holding on to the theory that she's a fallen member of the Goddess clan for now.

 

[Rams Sin of Lazy]

Man what if Merlin is really a man he only use magic to keep a female image D: i would be so salty

 

[Notice me Escanor senpai]

Man what if Merlin is really a man he only use magic to keep a female image D: i would be so salty

Woah poor Escanor would be disappointed(and a lot of fans too).

 

[Nenene89]

My theory is that Merlin is a Fallen Goddess that had an affair with the most powerful Demon Mage(prolly Mel's Uncle??).That explain why Mel only shared about Demon clan with Merlin from the very beginning plus the person whom she doenst want to make an enemy out of him. Mel might be the favourite nephew and spend a lot of time together with Merlin and the Demon Mage.

Plus, Merlin seemed to take a good care of Gowther which might be the evidence of their love, a forbidden love between a Goddess and a Demon which cant bear any child between those clans, thus Merlin's lover created Gowther to replace a child of their own.

Remember the time when she said that Gowther was created by a great Mage???

Probbly, Merlin's lover was dead during the war or has been executed by the Demon King himself. Who knows that Merlin's lover was the one who influenced Mel the most to restore the peace among the other clans.

The reason why she cant use Goddess magic probbly because she was punished by the Goddess clan after all the Goddesses knew that she had an affair with a Demon whereas her power has been taken and was scattered on the earth(which in my opinion, mama hawk might be her source of power) and she must look out for her missing piece of power thus resulting in why she was so gluttony about new findings which every single of it might be a clue to get back her real power.(which is her sins)

Plus she can transfer her soul into Aldan, and it reminds me of the soul of Goddess in the Horn of Cernerus??*totally forgot about that name*


** it's just a freaking theory btw. Do share your thoughts!

 

[Kay3795]

My theory is that Merlin is a Fallen Goddess that had an affair with the most powerful Demon Mage(prolly Mel's Uncle??).That explain why Mel only shared about Demon clan with Merlin from the very beginning plus the person whom she doenst want to make an enemy out of him. Mel might be the favourite nephew and spend a lot of time together with Merlin and the Demon Mage.

Plus, Merlin seemed to take a good care of Gowther which might be the evidence of their love, a forbidden love between a Goddess and a Demon which cant bear any child between those clans, thus Merlin's lover created Gowther to replace a child of their own.

Remember the time when she said that Gowther was created by a great Mage???

Probbly, Merlin's lover was dead during the war or has been executed by the Demon King himself. Who knows that Merlin's lover was the one who influenced Mel the most to restore the peace among the other clans.

The reason why she cant use Goddess magic probbly because she was punished by the Goddess clan after all the Goddesses knew that she had an affair with a Demon whereas her power has been taken and was scattered on the earth(which in my opinion, mama hawk might be her source of power) and she must look out for her missing piece of power thus resulting in why she was so gluttony about new findings which every single of it might be a clue to get back her real power.(which is her sins)

Plus she can transfer her soul into Aldan, and it reminds me of the soul of Goddess in the Horn of Cernerus??*totally forgot about that name*


** it's just a freaking theory btw. Do share your thoughts!

How long do you reckon the voluptuous goddess babe can live for?

 

[ShadowHeart]

Could she be a hybrid between Demon/Goddess clans?

 

[Holt]

That's the popular opinion. Still, I doubt she has demonic ties. Just doesn't seem likely imo

 

[ShadowHeart]

Just finished reading Vampire of Edinburgh again could Merlin been the one to free them?

 

[Demonspeed]

Just finished reading Vampire of Edinburgh again could Merlin been the one to free them?

To free who? Vampires? They are all dead, the Sins eradicated the race.

 

[Holt]

I think he meant if Merlin freed them before the sins went to eradicate them.
Doesn't seem likely though. I mean, she wouldn't have had any reason to do so considering the sins ended up wiping them out in the end.

 

[ShadowHeart]

I think he meant if Merlin freed them before the sins went to eradicate them.
Doesn't seem likely though. I mean, she wouldn't have had any reason to do so considering the sins ended up wiping them out in the end.

I could see Merlin freeing them to gather data/test subjects.

 

[kkck]

To me fraudrin seems like the more likely candidate here. Not sure of the reasons but he would have been among the few who would know about them to begin with. Merlin has a twisted side to her however she is in no context actually evil. The appearance of the vampires wasn't just a minor bump the sins faced... Well, it was however they eradicated most of a kingdom as far as we saw. If merlin had a hand in this then she is responsible for a nation disappearing. Whoever did this freed them and allowed a nation to disappear, it necessarily has to be someone who has sinister motives to put it mildly. So fraudrin makes a lot more sense here. Perhaps he needed some freedom to move around a bit and did this to send the sins away from lioness.