Discussion Mirajane Strauss thread

[sharkai]

Mira stamina was an issue.
Hopefully it wont be now

 

[Takuan]

Lol no
You are right macro should work on Ezra just like it should work on laxus
Once you convince laxus fans that Mira can low diff him. We can talk about how far Mira is above Ezra.

Depends on what you call impressive. You don't like pof
Well laxus isn't even a springgan tier without pof
So we can't use this argument much.
And beside its fairy tail.
Ezra will probably be second strongest good guy at the end
And Mira will get no fight importance thanks to mishma

Wait what...

I can't agree with you on that one. Laxus is definitely Spriggan tier without PoF. I don't know where you got this idea.

 

[sharkai]

Wait what...

I can't agree with you on that one. Laxus is definitely Spriggan tier without PoF. I don't know where you got this idea.

He couldn't beat Wahl without pulling an Ezra

 

[BluePegasus]

Erza could fight Kyouka evenly even before this arc. How many seconds it took Sayla to destroy Mira?

Erza and Kyôka fought on par? No, Kyôka pretty much slayed Erza. It was PoF that saved the day, just as always.

Seilah would destroy Erza with a LOT more ease than she did against Mirajane. Why? Because Macro works on Erza but doesn't on Mira.

That NLF isn't working on Erza until Mira proves it. Talk about this again once Mira starts controlling spriggans and alike.

Uhm, Seilah used Macro against Erza so I don't know what proof you want more..

Kyouka
Durability: 2600
Attack: 2700
Defense: 2500
Speed: 3000
Intel: 2900
Curse Power: 2700

Sayla
Durability: 1600
Attack: 1200 (2400 after macro powerup)
Defense: 1000
Speed: 800
Intel: 1800
Curse Power: 2000

These are official. Mira was getting blitzed by that 800 speed stat. Erza didn't have any problem keeping up with Kyouka's 3000.
Even Tartaros Erza can stomp her Sayla take over.

You do realise that those stats are from Base Seilah, right? Because Etherious Seilah's speed is far more impressive than Base Seilah's speed.

Uhm no, Seilah stomps Erza. Don't ignore manga facts.

 

[Rain Cloud]

Erza could fight Kyouka evenly even before this arc. How many seconds it took Sayla to destroy Mira?

That NLF isn't working on Erza until Mira proves it. Talk about this again once Mira starts controlling spriggans and alike.

Kyouka
Durability: 2600
Attack: 2700
Defense: 2500
Speed: 3000
Intel: 2900
Curse Power: 2700

Sayla
Durability: 1600
Attack: 1200 (2400 after macro powerup)
Defense: 1000
Speed: 800
Intel: 1800
Curse Power: 2000

These are official. Mira was getting blitzed by that 800 speed stat. Erza didn't have any problem keeping up with Kyouka's 3000.
Even Tartaros Erza can stomp her Sayla take over.

These are misleading stats. I'd rather not take the time to pull up an alternative version, but tl;dr Seilah would stomp Erza in a non-hiro mashima world. We already saw she had control over Erza with macro whereas Mira did not. More of a compatibility issue than power.

Seilah also has increased speed with her limiter release (on top of her Etherious form), easily much higher than Kyouka by far. Mirajane and Erza are on the same level, so there's no reason macro wouldn't work against Erza, unlike Laxus or Jellal or other Spriggans who are a tier about Erza & Mira. Honestly, when I saw Mira in Seilah form it scared the crap out of me cause I was afraid she'd end up getting BS wins with hax powers like the spriggans lol. It's too OP.

 

[EmberSpirit]

These stats include her limiter release in etherious form. It adds 1200 to her attack.

Erza and Kyôka fought on par? No, Kyôka pretty much slayed Erza. It was PoF that saved the day, just as always.

Seilah would destroy Erza with a LOT more ease than she did against Mirajane. Why? Because Macro works on Erza but doesn't on Mira.



Uhm, Seilah used Macro against Erza so I don't know what proof you want more..



You do realise that those starts are from Base Seilah, right? Because Etherious Seilah's speed is far more impressive than Base Seilah's speed.

Uhm no, Seilah stomps Erza. Don't ignore manga facts.

You are being delusional.

Erza was on par with Kyouka. She was fighting her evenly until Kyouka used her sense magic. That doesnt change the fact that Erza can overpower her physical stats.

Her macro powerup only ups her attack to 2400. She used that on her etherious form. Still below Kyouka.

Sayla stats are nothin special compared to Kyouka. You are the one ignoring clear manga facts.

I am done with Mira delusions though so you can have the last post.

 

[Rain Cloud]

I am done with Mira delusions though so you can have the last post.

Ok. Other than Stamina and BS, Erza's got little else going for her against Mira. #TruthIsHarsh #macrorules

 

[Ultimateasus]

Sorry to jump in middle but, when did Seilah cast macro against Erza?

I never liked that Mira is praised now because of Macro (It is a cheating power like that phantom wind element magic nullification against Makarov even though he is much weaker).
She should be stronger and should overpower a strong enemy by power only like what Laxus do but Mashima is not giving us that moment unfortunately.

 

[Summer]

These stats include her limiter release in etherious form. It adds 1200 to her attack.


You are being delusional.

Erza was on par with Kyouka. She was fighting her evenly until Kyouka used her sense magic. That doesnt change the fact that Erza can overpower her physical stats.

Her macro powerup only ups her attack to 2400. She used that on her etherious form. Still below Kyouka.

Sayla stats are nothin special compared to Kyouka. You are the one ignoring clear manga facts.

I am done with Mira delusions though so you can have the last post.

Wow , calling people delusional now?
You're the one that delusional here , many of erza fans already accepted erza fight is bullshit , what is wrong with you? Even mashima said Mira is stronger than erza....

--- Double Post Merged, Jul 3, 2016, Original Post Date: Jul 3, 2016 ---

Mira is 10 tier above erza , yeah call me delusional... let's just accept the FACTS that there's no way ERZA can Win against mira

 

[sharkai]

Majority of fairy tail fights are bs
Jacob lost because happy huge head was stuck between his hands.
Laxus had to use lightening that even surpassed lightening to beat Wahl.
What more proof do you people want .

 

[Takuan]

He couldn't beat Wahl without pulling an Ezra

Wahl couldn't beat Laxus despite him being in a pretty bad shape.
With Laxus being extremely diminished and Wahl's immunity to lightning, the fight should have been one sided. But it wasn't.

Laxus woulda stomped that fool if it wasn't for his illness.

 

[BluePegasus]

These stats include her limiter release in etherious form. It adds 1200 to her attack.

Lol so you think her speed is that low once she is in her Etherious form? Come on now, she blitzed Mira..

You are being delusional.

Erza was on par with Kyouka. She was fighting her evenly until Kyouka used her sense magic. That doesnt change the fact that Erza can overpower her physical stats.

Her macro powerup only ups her attack to 2400. She used that on her etherious form. Still below Kyouka.

Sayla stats are nothin special compared to Kyouka. You are the one ignoring clear manga facts.

I am done with Mira delusions though so you can have the last post.

Excuse me?

Erza fought on par with Kyôka once she only used her claws to fight. Once she began to use her curse, Erza was done. But then PoF came.

Seilah doesn't need Etherious to low diff Erza so..

No, you're ignoring the fact that MACRO WORKS ON ERZA. Erza is pointless against Seilah so she is against Mirajane, is this so difficult to understand?

Yeah good, give me the last post and call me delusional. Try harder next time.

Anyway, #macrorules @Rain Cloud

 

[sharkai]

Wahl couldn't beat Laxus despite him being in a pretty bad shape.
With Laxus being extremely diminished and Wahl's immunity to lightning, the fight should have been one sided. But it wasn't.

Laxus woulda stomped that fool if it wasn't for his illness.

No he couldn't. He had no way of defeating him without pof.
Yeah Wahl didn't finish him off when he was suffering just like ajeel couldn't finish off Ezra when she couldn't even use magic.
Fairies plot armor was so op

 

[Plutogrim]

Current Mirajane should be around ToH Erza.

 

[BluePegasus]

Current Mirajane should be around ToH Erza.

LOOOL.

 

[Plutogrim]

LOOOL

It's true.
Mirajane without Seilah Soul would be around ToH Erza.

 

[Jko]

It's true.
Mirajane without Seilah Soul would be around ToH Erza.

Bro you do know how that sounds? ToH Erza would be Mira's b!tch. Pre-ts Mira and Pre-ts Erza were around the same level so saying Mira's current strength is around that fodder level is ludicrous.

@EmberSpirit those aren't official stats they were made up on the fly as a visual representation of how the 9D would look like in a game. Nothing real concrete out of them.

 

[Crimson Ice]

I know Mira hasn't been overly impressive but really.......ToH Erza......That's basically BoS Erza.

 

[reesestl]

It's true.
Mirajane without Seilah Soul would be around ToH Erza.

Current Mirajane should be around ToH Erza.

Why would u exclude Seilah Soul if u r talking about current Mira? And even without Seilah, she still has Sitri and Halphas. ToH Arc, how much time has passed since then. current Mira=ToH Erza, I never heard that b4 even from her worst critics.

 

[sharkai]

Why would u exclude Seilah Soul if u r talking about current Mira? And even without Seilah, she still has Sitri and Halphas. ToH Arc, how much time has passed since then. current Mira=ToH Erza, I never heard that b4 even from her worst critics.

I don't agree with it but logically it does makes sense but this is fairy tail

keep in mind mira is two years behind erza. before that they were equal.
its kinda like BoS gray is equal to alvarez natsu. even though BoS gray should be two years behind current natsu
because time gap is almost same.

before the mop comes, I repeat I don't agree with this