Discussion Most Underrated Characters

[Ronin31]

From my perspective, Grey is the most underrated character in the 100-year Quest. It reminds me of the contrast of Gohan in Dragon Ball Z and the Gohan of DBS who gets killed by a pichenette of Frieza in his basic form. At the end of the original serie, Grey was still Natsu’s rival, playing equally in condition both out of control and moral off. Today, he is the only one who has not had his revenge against Diabolos letting float the fact that he is still below, before passing for a coward waiting for Mirajane to be weakened to face her. In the original serie, Grey was a strategist, not a runner. It’s very different. Like many characters of Mashima, his Statue no longer corresponds to his feats of arms. He gives the impression of having regressed greatly since Albaress while the other members of the group are stronger : Erza and Laxus are at the top of their power and stronger than ever, Wendy and Lucy have shown a consistent evolution. A disaster for Grey who seems to be weaker while at the end of Arbaless I could count him at the top of the Guild. Why so much hate for this character ?

Haku is Diabolos' most underrated character. Why ? Because he lost to Wendy ?
Wendy owes her victory only because her magic was the only one that could counter his hax. Because Eileen was there to guide her and allowed her a finish. Because Haku was in love with her and no more focused on the fight.
It’s still a lot of parameters. Haku is still extremely dangerous. Who, apart from an enchanter or enchantress, can counter his doll spells ?
To say that Haku is weak because he lost to Wendy is simplistic reasoning. Wendy’s magic, combined with Eileen’s knowledge, was certainly the most suitable against Haku. His natural enemy. Just as Wendy’s magic was better suited to face Skullion than Natsu, Grey or Mira. Or Sting/Rog more suitable to face Larcade than Jellal or Laxus.
It’s not about power here, it’s about proper magic.
The undervaluation of Haku’s level within Dabolos by readers is feared. If the other 3 BDSK members are stronger in terms of physical damage, Haku is certainly the most dangerous, being able to put an end to super fighters with a snap of his fingers.

 

[Ratrace]

From my perspective, Grey is the most underrated character in the 100-year Quest. It reminds me of the contrast of Gohan in Dragon Ball Z and the Gohan of DBS who gets killed by a pichenette of Frieza in his basic form. At the end of the original serie, Grey was still Natsu’s rival, playing equally in condition both out of control and moral off. Today, he is the only one who has not had his revenge against Diabolos letting float the fact that he is still below, before passing for a coward waiting for Mirajane to be weakened to face her. In the original serie, Grey was a strategist, not a runner. It’s very different. Like many characters of Mashima, his Statue no longer corresponds to his feats of arms. It gives the impression of having regressed greatly since Albaress while the other members of the group are stronger : Erza and Laxus are at the top of their power and stronger than ever, Wendy and Lucy have shown a consistent evolution. A disaster for Grey who seems to be weaker while at the end of Arbaless I could count him at the top of the Guild. Why so much hate for this character ?

Too me it seems like people are more disappointed

 

[Darklord#10]

Yeah haku is really underated. People think fodder trio are stronger than him. It's not even necessarily about haku's hax cuz kyria's hax is also very dangerous but the fact that he's a fodder quartet should say his far above fodder trio. Selene asked for suzaku's peers, meaning people relative to suzaku this isn't like spriggan were august and Irene far surpass all of them. The difference in power between BDSM isn't huge. One clean hit from suzaku sent natsu and erza to need serious medical attention. Haku is a black dragon slayer knight and just cuz he lost to Wendy doesn't mean anything. He blitz Irene already. He could have ended the fight already if he wanted to, he just became simp for Loli-chan

 

[Ronin31]

Too me it seems like people are more disappointed

Of course they are, because Grey isn't a coward but a strategist and a fighter. He is like Erza but on a lesser level.
Grey has really bad writting in the sequel and authors refuse to give him fighting feats.

For exemple :
Laxus could deal his fight with Kirin like what he did : loosing the first match then power up to win the second and Grey could deal in an extreme diff battle with Skullion and Mardmole team as exemple. Before Laxus crushed them both, Skullion and Madmole were shown as impressive foes.

I liked Grey in the original Manga, but now in this sequel, I don't expect anything from the authors about him anymore. It's a shame, really.

 

[Ratrace]

Of course they are, because Grey isn't a coward but a strategist and a fighter. He is like Erza but on a lesser level.
Grey has really bad writting in the sequel and authors refuse to give him fighting feats.

For exemple :
Laxus could deal his fight with Kirin like what he did : loosing the first match then power up to win the second and Grey could deal in an extreme diff battle with Skullion and Mardmole team as exemple. Before Laxus crushed them both, Skullion and Madmole were shown as impressive foes.

I liked Grey in the original Manga, but now in this sequel, I don't expect anything from the authors about him anymore. It's a shame, really.

Also you have fact that Hiro put certain characters first before everyone else which can affected it as well. When it comes to the fighting feats to me the problem is its against enemies we know nothing about

 

[Goku solos]

Dragon Gods, DDSK, Gray and Sting

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

Of course they are, because Grey isn't a coward but a strategist and a fighter. He is like Erza but on a lesser level.

Gray before his fight with Silver was a strategist. After tartaurus he became another POF boy like Erza and Natsu. Never seen Erza use strategy to level of Gray. Most of the time strategy I have seen her use Defense is useless then abandon her armor she re-equipped previous except maybe Ajeel.

 

[grey matter]

From my perspective, Grey is the most underrated character in the 100-year Quest. It reminds me of the contrast of Gohan in Dragon Ball Z and the Gohan of DBS who gets killed by a pichenette of Frieza in his basic form. At the end of the original serie, Grey was still Natsu’s rival, playing equally in condition both out of control and moral off. Today, he is the only one who has not had his revenge against Diabolos letting float the fact that he is still below, before passing for a coward waiting for Mirajane to be weakened to face her. In the original serie, Grey was a strategist, not a runner. It’s very different. Like many characters of Mashima, his Statue no longer corresponds to his feats of arms. He gives the impression of having regressed greatly since Albaress while the other members of the group are stronger : Erza and Laxus are at the top of their power and stronger than ever, Wendy and Lucy have shown a consistent evolution. A disaster for Grey who seems to be weaker while at the end of Arbaless I could count him at the top of the Guild. Why so much hate for this character ?

I agree with all of this.

There aren't really many true Gray haters.
For me personally, he was the only one amongst the main cast that I found tolerable.

Instead of hate.......It's more of disappointment and realization that Gray has been butchered beyond repair in the spinoff by Mashima.

 

[Nespi]

Gray before his fight with Silver was a strategist. After tartaurus he became another POF boy like Erza and Natsu.

There is truth only in part of that. Gray used his brain against Silver and even in 100yq. Remember his fight with thunder god tribe.
Gray has another real problem. He needs a power up. You can be very smart person but if you mark time as a mage when another people are getting stronger... They'll leave you behind.
Mashima always late when we speak about Gray and his power up. We have already seen similar situation before Tartarous arc. Alchemy may be his next power up.

 

[Garmadooon]

Lucy: The fact that the author hasn't developed her powers enough and has her dependent like a weakling makes a lot of people undersell her. She is much more durable than what people think.

Gray: Although I find his Darkness side overrated, I find him too underrated by the author, the fans, and too disrespected by other characters. I find it incomprehensible that this forum voted him 2nd for overrated characters when everyone treats him like fodder.

Jellal: Same as Gray, he has his wank moments but his bad treatment in the spinoff really didn't do him justice, he's not fodder or glass cannon like some say and he deserves new feats.

God Serena: Even though I don't think he's Gildarts level he's not fodder, people reject him and underrate him because Mashima put him up against #1 in Power Scaling. I hope this arc does him justice and he faces someone strong.

Suzaku: Has the best BDSK feats but people reject him since the fight against Dogramag. Some even want to undo her exploits against Human Selene as she admitted defeat.
I admit she was playful against him but that doesn't take away Suzaku's exploits apart from DF Natsu no one would have done better than him.
He's the kind of overly strong character that Mashima wants to nerf for the good guys to be right (the same can be said for Misaki Kirin and Haku, they were too strong and too hax for the good guys that's why the author either nerfed them or made them stupid).

 

[Steven]

Freed.I rly like this guy,his design and his abilitys but Hiro dont care about him at all

 

[Darklord#10]

Natsu is severely underrated, people try to discredit natsu's feats because he requires outside source or he requires the opponents to be nerfed. I've seen where twice now they've said that DF natsu only appears stronger than laxus and erza is because of dragon slaying advantage. How does this make sense when laxus s a dragon slayer himself and Erza has dragon slaying blades? But they try to discredit natsu's feats mostly his feats against aldoron just because aldoron was weakened. Lol I might sound stupid right now but just watch what this MFS are going to say when natsu beats vierness (possibly). They gonna create another whole ass excuse about why laxus Erza gildarts Mira gray and gajeel can replicate the same feats. The worst part is that natsu has used DF against people that aren't dragons. This guys also forget that dragon slayers can powerup through outside source but because of the fixation on trying to discredit natsu's feats they ignore this. Are we going to discredit Wendy's feats against ezel cuz as far as I'm concerned she used an outside source to activate DF but we won't overlook this, but I'm deadass sure if natsu did the same a section of the fanbase will go nuts and start bitching (I don't need to name who the fanbase is) it's going to sound stupid right now but you'll understand what I'm talking about later

 

[FireIce]

Jellal, Gray, Suzaku and Laxus.

 

[Steven]

Jellal, Gray,

How are they underrated when neither of them did jackshit in 100YQ?Jellal wasnt relevant anymore after the Neinhart fight.Sry but this 2 clowns are shit.Blame Hiro for that

 

[FireIce]

How are they underrated when neither of them did jackshit in 100YQ?Jellal wasnt relevant anymore after the Neinhart fight.Sry but this 2 clowns are shit.Blame Hiro for that

Jellal's opponents always get downplayed to the max and he's treated like some fodder even though he was constantly mentioned as one of the strongest fighters among those Faris white out with Laxus, Mirajane and Jellal. He no sold Kyria's roar just like Laxus did, the same roar that took out Erza, Mercphobia, Lucy and Wendy.

Gray has the hype of being Natsu's rival. Look, I don't believe he's anywhere near Natsu tier but there's that.

 

[Steven]

Jellal's opponents always get downplayed to the max and he's treated like some fodder even though he was constantly mentioned as one of the strongest fighters among those Faris white out with Laxus, Mirajane and Jellal. He no sold Kyria's roar just like Laxus did, the same roar that took out Erza, Mercphobia, Lucy and Wendy.

Gray has the hype of being Natsu's rival. Look, I don't believe he's anywhere near Natsu tier but there's that.

Neither of them has good feats to prove any of that.And thats the point.And i fail to see that Hiro will give them good feats as Gray/Jellal just good for shipping fans

 

[Garmadooon]

Neither of them has good feats to prove any of that.And thats the point.And i fail to see that Hiro will give them good feats as Gray/Jellal just good for shipping fans

And you find it normal that people including you think that Wendy is stronger than them whereas without Irene she has no feat ?

 

[Darklord#10]

Zeref: Has portrayal above all Spriggans even in his base. Gets downplayed cause he lost to literal POF of Natsu, in his FH mode

For some reason zeref doesn't get forgiveness cuz of his performance against natsu but Irene gets forgiveness. Funny how that works. In a way natsu hard countered zeref, he was able to burn through zeref's spells, timestop infact anything with time seems to be ineffective against natsu. Zeref gets downplayed so bad that people think laxus can take him on back in x792. I saw someone on Reddit who said August is the strongest wizard on Alvarez I don't know if this person even knew that august was working under zeref. I'm not defending zeref infact he and his s12 will always be fodder to me but people really don't think about his situation. This is fairy tail, do you expect a boss villain to win against natsu? Lmao

 

[Garmadooon]

For some reason zeref doesn't get forgiveness cuz of his performance against natsu but Irene gets forgiveness. Funny how that works. In a way natsu hard countered zeref, he was able to burn through zeref's spells, timestop infact anything with time seems to be ineffective against natsu. Zeref gets downplayed so bad that people think laxus can take him on back in x792. I saw someone on Reddit who said August is the strongest wizard on Alvarez I don't know if this person even knew that august was working under zeref. I'm not defending zeref infact he and his s12 will always be fodder to me but people really don't think about his situation. This is fairy tail, do you expect a boss villain to win against natsu? Lmao

Exactly people don't understand what it's like to face DF Natsu or POF Natsu. I noticed that in this forum as soon as someone loses or fights against Natsu they are downplayed. To say that Irene or even August is stronger than Zeref is insane.

The problem is that Zeref was hyped as a great dark mage so everyone was expecting a big fight, but it turns out the guy actually doesn't even use his spells to the point that the Base Natsu can burn his magic (that's why I consider Human Ignia >>>>> FH Zeref)

 

[Darklord#10]

Exactly people don't understand what it's like to face DF Natsu or POF Natsu. I noticed that in this forum as soon as someone loses or fights against Natsu they are downplayed. To say that Irene or even August is stronger than Zeref is insane.

The problem is that Zeref was hyped as a great dark mage so everyone was expecting a big fight, but it turns out the guy actually doesn't even use his spells to the point that the Base Natsu can burn his magic (that's why I consider Human Ignia >>>>> FH Zeref)

I agree with everything you said. I agree that the fight was lackluster infact the whole spriggan 12 is lackluster asf but people shit on zeref way too much.

Zeref gets fucked by natsu: oh zeref is fodder, he was base natsu tier blah blah blah

Irene vs Erza: well Erza had POF, Eileen held back, she wasn't showing her true powers, she got hyped up by acnologia, Wendy and Erza were using POF blah blah blah. Eileen was nerfed by plot whatever whatever whatever.

I wanna know what Erza gildarts laxus are going to do when zeref stops time lol . I wanna know what Erza gildarts laxus are going to do when zeref uses his black magic to tie them up I mean they don't have natsu's flames or igneel's flames they aren't also immune to magic, they also don't have higher mp than zeref lmao .