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Colts lol nope no qb to compete. Ur bills ain’t gonna pass ur chiefs bro I don’t they can win a shootout with the chiefs. Steelers are in the decline. Ravens I don’t trust lamar yet. Mahomes can score on any of the defense with easy man
Colts are the best team in the AFC with an above average QB. Bills are 1 defensive piece away from beating the Chiefs and the Steelers aren't in decline. You not trusting Lamar is your issue but when your entire team is injured, I don't know what you want lol.
 

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Colts are the best team in the AFC with an above average QB. Bills are 1 defensive piece away from beating the Chiefs and the Steelers aren't in decline. You not trusting Lamar is your issue but when your entire team is injured, I don't know what you want lol.
Nope it’s debatable if they are the best team in their own division. bills have to prove it to me next year not sold on Them yet. Steelers are unsure on their qb situation juju need to chill with this tik toks play the game. Plus they have cap issues. Ya lamar till needs to develop as a pocket qb until then I don’t see them as a threat to the chiefs let alone their divison. Injure happen in the nfl its part of the game just have to adapt
 

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Nope it’s debatable if they are best team in their own division. bills have to prove it to me next year not sold on Them yet. Steelers are unsure on their qb situation juju need to chill with this tik toks play the game. Plusthey have cap issues. Ya lamar till needs to develop as a pocket qb until then I don’t see them as a threat to the chiefs let alone their divison. Injure happen in the nfl is part of the game just have to adapt
Lol no one has to prove anything to you. Your takes are just as bad as the Eagles executive office lmao.

That bold proves you don't really know anything about football. Mahomes goes down against Cleveland and they almost lose to the Browns. Now try your entire OL plus other key players. This is literally proven with the 49ers and the Ravens.

Everything that Mahomes does, Stafford does better but he was on the Lions and they were terrible. Put him on a team with some actual good receivers and he'd be a top 3 in the league easy. Put him on the Colts and they are the best team in the AFC.
 

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I think you can count on Reich to get some production out of whatever QB he has, but I don't think you lose Rivers and be at the same place next season. Unless they make a similar kind of pickup to him. Eason or Brisset wouldn't have gotten them into the playoffs this year.
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Ya lamar till needs to develop as a pocket qb
No he doesn't
 

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I think you can count on Reich to get some production out of whatever QB he has, but I don't think you lose Rivers and be at the same place next season. Unless they make a similar kind of pickup to him. Eason or Brisset wouldn't have gotten them into the playoffs this year.
If they get Stafford, I believe they'd be better than they were initially.
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Lamar Jackson's statline with a good team:

66.13,127366113.3
CMP% ----> Yards ----> TDS ----> INT ----> QBR

In that order



Patrick Mahomes the last 2 years:

66.34,740386108.2
65.94,031265105.3
That is 2019-2020 and 2020-2021



@LaGOAT How can you criticize Lamar the way you do yet worship Mahomes? lmao
 

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If they get Stafford, I believe they'd be better than they were initially.
Than with Rivers? They'd have more longevity I guess, but it's tough to tell. Detroit is such a vacuum of shit that you can't really know how good a player can be if they have something more stable. I think Rivers is a better player but it's not like either have accomplished anything in the postseason.
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At this point I think Rivers is probably the best QB to have never started in a SuperBowl.
 

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Than with Rivers? They'd have more longevity I guess, but it's tough to tell. Detroit is such a vacuum of shit that you can't really know how good a player can be if they have something more stable. I think Rivers is a better player but it's not like either have accomplished anything in the postseason.
The way I look at it is with the stats. Philip Rivers and Stafford have had similar stats despite one being on a great team and one being on the Detroit Lions. Combine Stafford with Hilton, the OL, and Jonathan Taylor and that is one deadly team on offense.
 

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The way I look at it is with the stats. Philip Rivers and Stafford have had similar stats despite one being on a great team and one being on the Detroit Lions. Combine Stafford with Hilton, the OL, and Jonathan Taylor and that is one deadly team on offense.
There's no doubt the Chargers have been better in the last 20 years than the Lions, that's not really much of an accomplishment. But I think that usually when the Chargers were great it was because of Rivers, rather than him sort of being a game manager along for the ride. So I can't rest all of his success on his teams being better. Still, there's a chance Stafford hasn't really shown his best yet because of years wasted in Detroit, like I said, it's tough to really break it down. All I know for sure is that his wife is an embarrassing bim that needs her phone taken away lol.
 

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There's no doubt the Chargers have been better in the last 20 years than the Lions, that's not really much of an accomplishment. But I think that usually when the Chargers were great it was because of Rivers, rather than him sort of being a game manager along for the ride. So I can't rest all of his success on his teams being better. Still, there's a chance Stafford hasn't really shown his best yet because of years wasted in Detroit, like I said, it's tough to really break it down. All I know for sure is that his wife is an embarrassing bim that needs her phone taken away lol.
At least they had LT.

What's up with his wife?
 

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At least they had LT.

What's up with his wife?
He played more seasons without LT than he did with him though. They were probably more competitive then I guess, but the Chargers weren't too relevant before they drafted Rivers either. I'm not really sure wtf the deal is with that franchise. The move to LA made no fucking sense at all, it seems like LA doesn't even care about them... idk

Just making stupid statements about Kaepernick and COVID
 

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He played more seasons without LT than he did with him though. They were probably more competitive then I guess, but the Chargers weren't too relevant before they drafted Rivers either. I'm not really sure wtf the deal is with that franchise. The move to LA made no fucking sense at all, it seems like LA doesn't even care about them... idk
That's true and in that AFC championship game, IIRC Rivers was playing with an ACL tear. Here's the record for the Chargers:

Aside from a handful of good seasons, they have been either consistently average or downright bad.

Just making stupid statements about Kaepernick and COVID
lol
 

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Lol no one has to prove anything to you. Your takes are just as bad as the Eagles executive office lmao.

That bold proves you don't really know anything about football. Mahomes goes down against Cleveland and they almost lose to the Browns. Now try your entire OL plus other key players. This is literally proven with the 49ers and the Ravens.

Everything that Mahomes does, Stafford does better but he was on the Lions and they were terrible. Put him on a team with some actual good receivers and he'd be a top 3 in the league easy. Put him on the Colts and they are the best team in the AFC.
Bruh i just said I’m not sold on the bills just yet Lol aye we did it in 2017 so Is possible.
Ur not getting the point u can’t expecting that teams wouldnt have injuries that what I’m tryna to say.

nah mahomes>Stafford lol stop it. he did with megaton. Anyways if that’s happen we shall see.
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If they get Stafford, I believe they'd be better than they were initially.
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Lamar Jackson's statline with a good team:

66.13,127366113.3
CMP% ----> Yards ----> TDS ----> INT ----> QBR




In that order



Patrick Mahomes the last 2 years:

66.34,740386108.2
65.94,031265105.3
That is 2019-2020 and 2020-2021






@LaGOAT How can you criticize Lamar the way you do yet worship Mahomes? lmao
bro I don’t know what ur getting at. I didn’t say lamar is garbage
 

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Bruh i just said I’m not sold on the bills just yet Lol aye we did it in 2017 so Is possible.
Ur not getting the point u can’t expecting that teams wouldnt have injuries that what I’m tryna to say.

nah mahomes>Stafford lol stop it. he did with megaton. Anyways if that’s happen we shall see.
Nah your takes in general are terrible. What team expects 10+ of it's star players to get injured and a global pandemic? That doesn't happen as regularly as you make it out to be.

You're not sold on the Bills (despite them being a playoff team for 3 years now), you're not set on the Browns, or the Colts, or the Ravens. You are not set on anyone.

nah mahomes>Stafford lol stop it. he did with megaton. Anyways if that’s happen we shall see.
Megatron was hurt for more than half of his entire career if you remember and so what? One WR and everything is supposed to get fixed? You really need to know how bad that front office is.

I guarantee you that if Mahomes was on the Lions, he'd be like Stafford. I'm not tryna diss the the guy but you're making it seem like Mahomes is this QB that is doing things no one has ever done. First, let's see him fight through some adversity before worshipping him. Matt Stafford is doing these things on arguably the worst franchise in history.

bro I don’t know what ur getting at. I didn’t say lamar is garbage
Your criticism don't make sense......like at all. What does Lamar need to prove? When your OL is so shit that you have a defender in your face every time, you don't think he needs to run?

He's a good, soon to be great, QB who's proven himself. He's an MVP.
 

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That's true and in that AFC championship game, IIRC Rivers was playing with an ACL tear. Here's the record for the Chargers:
Los Angeles Chargers History
Aside from a handful of good seasons, they have been either consistently average or downright bad.
LT leaving also coincided with the plague that is a Norv Turner-head coached team... so that's another reason they probably fell off. They really had an abundance of talent squandered by the likes of him and Mary Schottenheimer. Then they lost their grip on the division after Manning went to the Broncos.
 

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LT leaving also coincided with the plague that is a Norv Turner-head coached team... so that's another reason they probably fell off. They really had an abundance of talent squandered by the likes of him and Mary Schottenheimer. Then they lost their grip on the division after Manning went to the Broncos.
I won't lie, that 2018 12-4 team I thought was winning it all.
 

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Nah your takes in general are terrible. What team expects 10+ of it's star players to get injured and a global pandemic? That doesn't happen as regularly as you make it out to be.

You're not sold on the Bills (despite them being a playoff team for 3 years now), you're not set on the Browns, or the Colts, or the Ravens. You are not set on anyone.



Megatron was hurt for more than half of his entire career if you remember and so what? One WR and everything is supposed to get fixed? You really need to know how bad that front office is.

I guarantee you that if Mahomes was on the Lions, he'd be like Stafford. I'm not tryna diss the the guy but you're making it seem like Mahomes is this QB that is doing things no one has ever done. First, let's see him fight through some adversity before worshipping him. Matt Stafford is doing these things on arguably the worst franchise in history.



Your criticism don't make sense......like at all. What does Lamar need to prove? When your OL is so shit that you have a defender in your face every time, you don't think he needs to run?

He's a good, soon to be great, QB who's proven himself. He's an MVP.
again ur not understanding my point I said injuries happen in the nfl there no escaping it’s up to team if they overcome that some can some can’t it’s just that simple.
Ya I’m not them making the playoffs isn’t what I’m saying. I have to see them beati by the chiefs in the playoffs is my point they are not same with the rest of the team in the nfl as @xi0 Said earlier I see the chiefs as the Patriots 2.0/90s bulls they will dominate are the AFC. Last three years the chiefs has been in the afc championship and the only team to beat them was Brady and the pats I just don’t beleive that no team is on their tier time will tell tho.

but I didn’t say that u did ur assuming I said those things we I’m saying his team will rule ur conference.
again we shall see if Stafford goes the colts and if he can compete with the chiefs.

what I Said about lamar isnt a great of a passer consistently that all. now part of that is he needs a wr. But he throw from the pocket consistently is the issue.Lamar is a good qb top 3 in his conference I just need him to see improve throw more in the pocket consistently that’s all I’m asking
 
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again ur not understanding my point I said injuries happen in the nfl there no escaping it’s up to team if they overcome that some can some can’t it’s just that simple.
Your point for a lack of nicer terms is extremely stupid. No one and I mean no one can compete with that many injuries......simple.

Ya I’m not them making the playoffs isn’t what I’m saying. I have to see them beati by the chiefs in the playoffs is my point they are not same with the rest of the team in the nfl as @xi0 Said earlier I see the chiefs as the Patriots 2.0/90s bulls they will dominate are the AFC. Last three years the chiefs has been in the afc championship and the only team to beat them was Brady and the pats I just don’t beleive that no team is on their tier time will tell tho.
Until you bring proof that they are on that level since they clearly are beatable, I will still question you.

but I didn’t say that u did ur assuming I said those things we I’m saying his team will rule ur conference.
again we shall see if Stafford goes the colts if he can compete with the chiefs.
And I 'm saying he won't. Unlike Brady, the Chiefs are beatable and it's been shown.

what I Said about lamar isnt a great of a passer consistently that all now part of that is he needs a wr. But he throw from the pocket consistently is the issue.Lamar is a good qb top 3 in his conference I just need him to see improve throw more in the pocket consistently that’s all I’m asking
36 passing touchdowns in his MVP season and 26 passing this season with one of the worst O-Lines.

Bold: Bruh.....every QB needs receivers. Your best friend Mahomes needs Hill and Kelce.

You need to see him do well in the pocket? Watch his highlights.
 

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Your point for a lack of nicer terms is extremely stupid. No one and I mean no one can compete with that many injuries......simple.



Until you bring proof that they are on that level since they clearly are beatable, I will still question you.



And I 'm saying he won't. Unlike Brady, the Chiefs are beatable and it's been shown.



36 passing touchdowns in his MVP season and 26 passing this season with one of the worst O-Lines.

Bold: Bruh.....every QB needs receivers. Your best friend Mahomes needs Hill and Kelce.

You need to see him do well in the pocket? Watch his highlights.
Aye that ur opinion. 2017 eagles 2010 packers 2011 giants all won but anyways it’s rare but possible.

I didn’t say i had proof bro u tweakin I said time will tell reread my post that what I personal believe.

the Patriots were beatable too but made most of time they made to the Super Bowl and they were 14-1 with mahome this year (and I’m not saying they gonna go undefeated everytime)

his oline in his mvp year he oline very good is just that some got hurt and some retired.

I know I’m not saying that as a bad thing tho but I’m saying that would probably help me out
 

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2017 eagles 2010 packers 2011 giants all won
They had little to no injuries compared to the Ravens.

I didn’t say i had proof bro u tweakin I said time will tell reread my post that what I personal believe.
You don't base your personal belief on the basis of some facts?
 

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They had little to no injuries compared to the Ravens.



You don't base your personal belief on the basis of some facts?
Google it my friend.

Base on what the chiefs did the last few years I can see them repeating the same thing
 
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