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Q/A 298 chapter:
Q325: (Missa-san from Yamaguchi prefecture) Does the Goddess' power when they possess a human change when they don't?
A: It depends on their compatibility with them but naturally, they're fundamentally stronger in their real bodies.
Well I did say “I could be wrong”
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Theres no such thing as an invincible in this manga. Everyone has proven they're NOT.
Escanor is invincible during The One and no one has proven he’s not.
 

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Escanor is invincible during The One and no one has proven he’s not.
He got scratched by Zel's ON, which clearly means that he can be hurt by strong attacks and thus, he's not invincible. He's just ridiculously strong and durable.
 

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He got scratched by Zel's ON, which clearly means that he can be hurt by strong attacks and thus, he's not invincible. He's just ridiculously strong and durable.
You’re right. Still taking the The One though. That was a weird moment because he wasn’t scratched at all when he karate chopped Ominous Nebula
 

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To be honest when One Escanor became serious he instantly destroyed the ON barrier
 

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Escanor is
Invincible is defined being all power full which is basically being omnipotent or invulnerable. But the fact hes not even stronger than mael already debunks that. If DK meliodas was having trouble fighting Ban after purgatory no archangels would come close to ban in strength, speed and many aspects. So no. You're committing this mere statements that hasnt been backed up by feats, not only that this is the same Merlin that says Cusack is stronger than prime meliodas WHICH HE ISNT by feats and how he showed his power.
 

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Invincible is defined being all power full which is basically being omnipotent or invulnerable. But the fact hes not even stronger than mael already debunks that. If DK meliodas was having trouble fighting Ban after purgatory no archangels would come close to ban in strength, speed and many aspects. So no. You're committing this mere statements that hasnt been backed up by feats, not only that this is the same Merlin that says Cusack is stronger than prime meliodas WHICH HE ISNT by feats and how he showed his power.
Not really, being invincible just means being too powerful to be defeated, you don't have to be omnipotent or anything remotely close to it.
 

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Not really, being invincible just means being too powerful to be defeated, you don't have to be omnipotent or anything remotely close to it.
And that other definition is vague by default in itself. Statements are like that without showing enough feats is defined as "hyperbolic statements" which isnt anything new in fiction
 

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And that other definition is vague by default in itself. Statements are like that without showing enough feats is defined as "hyperbolic statements" which isnt anything new in fiction
Of course it's vague, which is what makes it so appropriate for the vague pl of The One. And so far, The One has been true to the statement, never even being pushed to its known limitation(the one minute timer)
 

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AM Mel vs Mael
Emo Mel(No OG power) vs Emotionless Mel (Post-Escanor)
 

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Of course it's vague, which is what makes it so appropriate for the vague pl of The One. And so far, The One has been true to the statement, never even being pushed to its known limitation(the one minute timer)
Inb4 you get hit with “But it took all of his effort to break ON”
 

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Inb4 you get hit with “But it took all of his effort to break ON”
Lol once he got serious he instantly broke the ON barrier
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AM Mel vs Mael
Emo Mel(No OG power) vs Emotionless Mel (Post-Escanor)
1.Mael, if AM meliodas does not have his OG magic.
2.Emo mel, this mel fought and beat Dk and DK mel is far beyond Emotionless mel
 

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Sunshine Mael vs Chandler & Cushack
Sunshine Mael vs 4CM Maelstorossa
 

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Base Estarossa vs Derierri & Monspeet
 

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Assuming they have more than one heart, deri and monspeet should win
 

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Assuming they have more than one heart, deri and monspeet should win
I mean... Monspiet would've soloed if Derriere hadn't fucked it up.

Monspiet could probably win a 1v

Derriere would get trashed

Estarossa would be trashed in a 1v2
 

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Base Estarossa vs Derierri & Monspeet
I don’t know what Estarossa can really do to beat Monspeet. He’s Derieri’s worst possible matchup. Monspeet’s way of fighting renders his magical ability worthless and since we know Estarossa’s Hellblaze is worthless against him, given the difference between their magic, I think it’s safe to say his darkness is just as worthless. And assuming we’re talking about a fully healthy Derieri and Monspeet, they both have access to Indura, I doubt Estarossa ever does.

I honestly think Monspeet could win alone so both him and Derieri will definitely win.If Derieri just stayed out of it the first time he would have beaten Estarossa. He’s a bad match up for him. Monspeet is underrated.
 

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AM Mel vs Mael
Emo Mel(No OG power) vs Emotionless Mel (Post-Escanor)
- It really depends on the time of the day. If it's Late Morning/Noon I'd say Mael wins. If it's Morning or Afternoon it could go either way, slightly going towards Mel and if it's night, Mael clearly loses.
- Emo Mel wins. He was able to clash with the DK multiple times and tank some of his attacks. These are far better feats than anything AM Mel showed IMO.

Sunshine Mael vs Chandler & Cushack
Sunshine Mael vs 4CM Maelstorossa
Mael wins both with little to no difficulty. We all saw the Sinner going up against Mael and we all know how it ended up. Chandler and Cusack are in all likelihood getting oneshotted. 4C Mael would be a little bit harder, but I see Sun Mael being comparable to King overall (depending on the time of the day one is stronger than the other) and King trashed him. Overall, I'd say Mael wins both with Low Difficulty if it's Morning or Afternoon and a complete Stomp if it's Late Morning/Noon.

Base Estarossa vs Derierri & Monspeet
Monspeet could potentially solo if he uses Trick Star well. The duo takes this.
 
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