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[Meliodaf]

I need to know what Merlin and Zeldris' abilities do. His ability is just named God

Arthur's magic stat is ridiculous too.

And Zeldris has the higher PL and I'm aware that they often mean nothing but, until proven otherwise, he's stronger than Estarossa. I told you so.

 

[LivewireToriko]

I;m pretty sure escanor was stronger than estarossa both in magic and physical strength at the start of their battle.

Not in magic.

He lost the magic power comparison battle for like half a second.

I need to know what Merlin and Zeldris' abilities do. His ability is just named God

Arthur's magic stat is ridiculous too.

And Zeldris has the higher PL and I'm aware that they often mean nothing but, until proven otherwise, he's stronger than Estarossa. I told you so.

It really depends on his magic power ability to be honest.

Zeldris isn't going to beat anybody his brother couldn't beat with a 1k gap between them unless his magic ability makes the difference.

 

[oxtopus]

Not in magic.

He lost the magic power comparison battle for like half a second.


It really depends on his magic power ability to be honest.

Zeldris isn't going to beat anybody his brother couldn't beat with a 1k gap between them unless his magic ability makes the difference.

Yes he was,unless you believe sushine the magic that could oneshot any character in the series is below 3000 in magic power. Estarossa darkness isn't supposed to be magic,it's more like a part of their body,like a limb and another thing is all the commandments could use it while having zero magic. So i believe the correct term for estarossa's darkness should have been power(which would refer to the total power level i.e magic,strength and spirit combined) and not magic.

 

[LivewireToriko]

Yes he was,unless you believe sushine the magic that could oneshot any character in the series is below 3000 in magic power. Estarossa darkness isn't supposed to be magic,it's more like a part of their body,like a limb and another thing is all the commandments could use it while having zero magic. So i believe the correct term for estarossa's darkness should have been power(which would refer to the total power level i.e magic,strength and spirit combined) and not magic.

Well Nakaba wrote it as magic, so it's magic.

Escanor has over 53k strength as he was clearly physically superior to estarossa, a majority of his power level.

Estarossa has 3k magic.

Escanor has slightly more.

You can't make up your own headcanon and expect people to go along with it just because you don't agree with the canon Nakaba has established.

 

[Escanorzoldyck]

Escanor's magic isnt At 3k nor 50k it is immeasurable

 

[LivewireToriko]

Escanor's magic isnt At 3k nor 50k it is immeasurable

I know Escanor is hype incarnate but let's not get crazy now.

It's clearly measurable.

 

[MrSchmitty7]

I know Escanor is hype incarnate but let's not get crazy now.

It's clearly measurable.

Clearly measurable??? And who decided that????

 

[Notice me Escanor senpai]

it's Nakaba who give thoses Values ? i didnt see any in the last chapters... a link please ! All we know is that Galan with 27K dominated the sins in the first and then Meliodas easily kicked hiss ass with 32K and the same Meliodas kick the ass of Dolor and glox in 2 vs 1 with 32K and he was even holding back because they were friends...

Seems like you're late to the party. Yes it's Nakaba who gave those values.I would be too difficult to browse through the fanbook thread, but everything you should know about power levels should be found here:http://nanatsu-no-taizai.wikia.com/wiki/Balor's_Magical_Eye
The wikia seems updated with the new info from the fanbook, and I urge you to take a look at the fanbook thread.

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Didnt you see the ten commandments pl?
And by the way did anyone notice that zeldris is younger than his gf

Honestly I'm more surprised that vampires can live that long, on par with the demons, or even more. Their ages were given prior to their seal, which should have happened during the war no? So Izraf would have been in total 4319 years old. Heck his age prior to the seal is 1319, which surpasses the standard lifespan of a demon which is 1000 years old. Granted he's the vampire king, so just like the fairy king has a longer lifespan than that of regular fairies, it can explain why Izraf was that old. Too bad the vampires are weak as fuck,despite their longevity.

Dunno why but I like that shot of Escanor in your avy.

 

[Escanorzoldyck]

I wasnt serious man

 

[hunterxyamani]

Seems like you're late to the party. Yes it's Nakaba who gave those values.I would be too difficult to browse through the fanbook thread, but everything you should know about power levels should be found here:http://nanatsu-no-taizai.wikia.com/wiki/Balor's_Magical_Eye
The wikia seems updated with the new info from the fanbook, and I urge you to take a look at the fanbook thread.

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Honestly I'm more surprised that vampires can live that long, on par with the demons, or even more. Their ages were given prior to their seal, which should have happened during the war no? So Izraf would have been in total 4319 years old. Heck his age prior to the seal is 1319, which surpasses the standard lifespan of a demon which is 1000 years old. Granted he's the vampire king, so just like the fairy king has a longer lifespan than that of regular fairies, it can explain why Izraf was that old. Too bad the vampires are weak as fuck,despite their longevity.

Dunno why but I like that shot of Escanor in your avy.

Thank you ! so i was wrong ^^ sorry about my post, anyway i was right about Zeldris i always said that he is the strongest ! we know also now why ban killed easily Mera ! he was stronger than her physically ! Merlin story will be interesting

 

[Eternita]

Mel and Elizabeth can just get a room, this constant repetition, like...we dont' care anymore..well i don't anyway.
The fanbook is interesting

Merlin story will be interesting

According to legend merlin is the greatest magic user to ever have existed in fairytales, so to have revealed that her magic is called 'infinity' is interesting.
Also her birthplace BeliaRuin, someone said they would read it as Belial- Ruin, Belial meaning ruin, chaos and destruction, and was also seen as a name given to satan, antichrist and the highest evils. basically an angel with a beautiful appearance of light but whose powers are that of darkness and destruction. Belial was is also one of the crowned princes of hell, whose book is called 'mastery of the earth'
her greatest regret is being born, does that mean being born into her race? Interesting...

i hope the hero isnt mel, but if it is...then...ok.

 

[oxtopus]

Well Nakaba wrote it as magic, so it's magic.

Escanor has over 53k strength as he was clearly physically superior to estarossa, a majority of his power level.

Estarossa has 3k magic.

Escanor has slightly more.

You can't make up your own headcanon and expect people to go along with it just because you don't agree with the
canon Nakaba has established.

Sunshine?below 3000? Alright then. We'll see who looks stupid when escanor magic stat is eventually revealed.

 

[LivewireToriko]

Sunshine?below 3000? Alright then. We'll see who looks stupid when escanor magic stat is eventually revealed.

You.

I'm not the one making up head cannon here, because I don't agree with nakaba's power levels lmao.

It is what is.

 

[Bigbootyjudy]

You.

I'm not the one making up head cannon here, because I don't agree with nakaba's power levels lmao.

It is what is.

Dude, I actually agree that Nakaba is just trolling with Escanor's stats. It's measurable, but he's just trolling everyone until he wants to actually reveal it.

I'm the biggest Estarossa fuckboi on this site but even I have to admit that his magic stat is going to be way beyond 3000, and the only one who could, maybe, top it is Arthur.

 

[LivewireToriko]

Dude, I actually agree that Nakaba is just trolling with Escanor's stats. It's measurable, but he's just trolling everyone until he wants to actually reveal it.

I'm the biggest Estarossa fuckboi on this site but even I have to admit that his magic stat is going to be way beyond 3000, and the only one who could, maybe, top it is Arthur.

At noon?

Sure.

Late morning?

It was slightly higher than estarossa's.

 

[Bigbootyjudy]

At noon?

Sure.

Late morning?

It was slightly higher than estarossa's.

It was around 11:30 am when Escanor absolutely started to trounce Estarossa. But he was starting to beat him even before then. Estarossa was just able to hold him off. So I would argue that it was around 10 am that Escanor started to surpass Estarossa, and then by 11:30 he had completely overpowered him.

It's not just magic. If it were Estarossa should have been burnt to a crisp instantly. And yet here he is, still alive somehow. So I would say that even though Escanor's magic surpassed Estarossa, his physical stats were still comparable.

 

[TarXan]

I;m pretty sure escanor was stronger than estarossa both in magic and physical strength at the start of their battle.

Not really Estarossa was pretty much knocking him around, all he had was that 1 punch which practically did nothing

Escanor began to match him around 11 when he got knocked to the lake then after 11:30 Estarossa went from medium rare to well done

 

[Gallon]

Estarossa's darkness managed to block Escanor's Cruel Sun prior to his 11:30 form, so Livewire has a point.
Estarossa also referred to "Blackout" as magic of his, so it's magic, simple - it's not just a mere extension of his body.
I'm not certain how high Escanor's magic stat is, but it was implied that chapter that if he had not received that almost-noon boost, he was going to be in trouble due to Esta's strategy.

I can clearly see what Livewire is implying, but that's just me.

 

[SpectrumRay16]

Estarossa's darkness managed to block Escanor's Cruel Sun prior to his 11:30 form, so Livewire has a point.
Estarossa also referred to "Blackout" as magic of his, so it's magic, simple - it's not just a mere extension of his body.
I'm not certain how high Escanor's magic stat is, but it was implied that chapter that if he had not received that almost-noon boost, he was going to be in trouble due to Esta's strategy.

I can clearly see what Livewire is implying, but that's just me.

That is true, Zeldris seemed to know who was going to win the fight until that happened. But, to be honest... what would Estarossa have done if Escanor would have dropped Rhitta and simply used his magic to attack him with his now empty hand?
Not to mention, we don't know the full extent of what Escanor can do without having Rhitta on hand! Honestly, it looked more like Escanor got upset and lost control of his power than he got a huge power boost all of a sudden. In fact, the vampire king had a similar fate where he insulted Escanor, got him upset and the area started to boil and melt. So... is it really guaranteed that he got a large power boost from it being 11:30? Did he simply get enough of a power boost? or did he get angry and that made his magic go haywire?
I really don't want him to have simply been "holding back" though... but, truth is Escanor still seemed confident he was going to win, despite being put into that situation. This is just my opinion though and i have no facts to really back what i just said up, it's simply an assumption.

 

[Gallon]

That is true, Zeldris seemed to know who was going to win the fight until that happened. But, to be honest... what would Estarossa have done if Escanor would have dropped Rhitta and simply used his magic to attack him with his now empty hand?
Not to mention, we don't know the full extent of what Escanor can do without having Rhitta on hand! Honestly, it looked more like Escanor got upset and lost control of his power than he got a huge power boost all of a sudden. In fact, the vampire king had a similar fate where he insulted Escanor, got him upset and the area started to boil and melt. So... is it really guaranteed that he got a large power boost from it being 11:30? Did he simply get enough of a power boost? or did he get angry and that made his magic go haywire?
I really don't want him to have simply been "holding back" though... but, truth is Escanor still seemed confident he was going to win, despite being put into that situation. This is just my opinion though and i have no facts to really back what i just said up, it's simply an assumption.

I believe everyone's wondered why Escanor was, umm, stupid (crap, here comes the flame) enough to attack Estarossa physically the second time when he could've imbued Rhitta with his magic or something. But still, that doesn't have to do with what was implied - Estarossa supposedly had the upper hand in terms of magic, and Full Counter made it possible to reflect physical attacks, so the battle was going pretty well for him. After that, we see the Sun, we get an idea of what time it is, we see Escanor's muscles swelling, and we see Estarossa claiming that his power levels are surging, so I believe it's very safe to assume he received a pretty good boost.

I understand your assumption, but he was probably confident because he knew he was going to get stronger.
I mean, if you're in a somewhat equal fight, and your PL increases constantly, and your durability is insane, would you not be confident?