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why you always put zoro LOL its clear in the spoiler even if he show his 100% power with enma he can't cut kaido just like oden did however he is different from when he is fighting oden on his current self which is kaido is a monster.
I certainly don’t “always put Zoro” man lol, I’m usually being shit on for bashing Zoro fanboys. What I mean is, the two Straw Hats who are active in this fight will likely be seen as the ones who “defeated them”, even if the other parties/crews play their significant part. And yeah I might be wrong though, but as much as I don’t want the Zoro fanboys to cream their pants I can’t help but feel he will play a big part in taking at least Kaidou down - with that not being said he’ll beat Kaidou. Chill bro chill. :lmao
 

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zoro are not strong as oden.
I am not going to further discuss this boring power-leveling topic, than this message, but : Zoro is part of the Strawhats, which is the main crew protagonist, therefore they're bound to become the very best.
Oden was a natural born monster, just like Big Mom. Luffy wasn't one, so is Zoro. So what? We're reading the manga to watch them become the PK crew. Since the very begining Zoro stated he wants to become the best swordsman in the world. Oda said we're reaching the last arc of the manga... so it's about time Zoro gets closer to that level! And whats a best occasion to do so than fighting two Yonko? He knows very well the difference between his level & Kaido's, that's why he made that comment, about unleashing more of Enma power...
And even if he gets to Oden level, what's wrong? The dude wasn't on Roger & WB level anyway.
 

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So Killer’s actual blades are much stronger than the scythes?
Duh and that's not even his usual fighting style at all , he was super nerfed adding the poor mental condition
I'm not too sure Organizized, this trio has to live on and enter into the final race to become the PK like Kaido says. It would make it all more fun! They really look good together, since the first time at Sabaody. Also, BB crew seems a "little" too much for the SH alone. And there's not many people out in the sea capable of taking them down.

As of Killer, he was able to hurt Zoro without his favorite swords, that's actually a feat. Give the dude some credit, he was in such a miserable condition when he faced him. He will impress during this battle for sure, otherwise why waste panels and praises on him. Oda made sure to get the very best at the top, they're not going to die in my opinion.

And actually... if I had to bet, I would rather see Law drop dead! As he said to Luffy their alliance would only last until Kaido is out of the picture, that could be a foreshadowing from Oda . And he's going to be troublesome for Kaido & Big Mom if he keeps getting Luffy and the others out of reach. So I think they'll target him at some point.
Law is gonna be around them or at least robin because he wants to understand the fate of Ds , law might not love it but he's actually enjoying hitching the ride with luffy , he's more of wb/Roger dynamic , Roger and kids are more shiki/Roger proper competitors

zoro are not strong as oden.
I mean duh lmaoo
 

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Sounds like an amazing chapter. Kaido still not totally taking them serious, but showing a little respect to Luffy, even seeing some Roger and WB in him. But the tables will now be turned for a bit. And i suspect next chapter we'll have a scene shift to other battles.
 

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Btw is Kaido still fighting while piloting the island? I’d think that kinda affects how seriously he can fight, too?
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Like jfc Kaidou, ever heard of “don’t drink and drive... and fight”?
 

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as much as I don’t want the Zoro fanboys to cream their pants
Hahaha. It would be two chapters too late to stop that anyway. :pleased

Even if I know he is not Luffy and so he won't be the one to finish off Kaido, I'm the most hyped about what he will exactly accomplish in this fight. I think him not being the MC makes the intrigue even more exciting. What Luffy will accomplish here is far more clear-cut .
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Btw is Kaido still fighting while piloting the island? I’d think that kinda affects how seriously he can fight, too?
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Like jfc Kaidou, ever heard of “don’t drink and drive... and fight”?
I think I should interpret this as some sort of passive skill and roll with it, like Dofly's cage.
 

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Even if I know he is not Luffy and so he won't be the one to finish off Kaido, I'm the most hyped about what he will exactly accomplish in this fight. I think him not being the MC makes the intrigue even more exciting. What Luffy will accomplish here is far more clear-cut .
Exactly, I’m not expecting him to defeat Kaidou 1v1 but it’s undeniable that Oda has been hyping and building him up more than usual compared to the other SH’s lately, so I do think he will pull something significant here.
And honestly it makes sense that Oda is focusing on Zoro’s growth in strength in particular since we’re nearing the final stage of the story and he’s the member who specifically has “become the strongest” as his dream. The Zoro hype gets out of hand every week, but honestly even I would be a bit disappointed if he doesn’t pull off something epic at this point that makes us feel his dream is within reach.
 
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Great that Luffy and Zoro are able to damage Kaido but at the same time not completely pummel him. If that was the case then this arc would be over soon with Luffy and Zoro finishing the Yonkous off in a few chapter and Kid, Killer and Law would just remain as spectators. Now the blood bathe is gonna begin. Expecting Luffy and Zoro to be bashed and bleeding but at the same time they will improve and have just enough to finish the Yonkous off with their finishing blow. In the meantime just sit down, relax and enjoy the bashing.
 

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Duh and that's not even his usual fighting style at all , he was super nerfed adding the poor mental condition

Law is gonna be around them or at least robin because he wants to understand the fate of Ds , law might not love it but he's actually enjoying hitching the ride with luffy , he's more of wb/Roger dynamic , Roger and kids are more shiki/Roger proper competitors



I mean duh lmaoo
Tf you mean duh? Like Killer’s scythes ever seemed special.
 

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According to the summary he said "Who can fight against me". He is saying that Luffy is at/reaching the level of the very few people who can give him trouble. You don't need the advanced level of CoA that Luffy has to injure him. He has been hurt by the Scabbards.
Well I do think Luffy's damage and RS damage are different, that's why he thinks about Luffy's damage. Luffy's damage reached a position where only a few were able to injure Kaido.

All 9 RS were able to reopen Oden's scar on Kaido. Luffy is able to injure him at the point where Kaido puts him on the same level as Roger, WB, Rocks, Oden (not Shank ? Can we assume he never faced Shanks ?).
 

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(not Shank ? Can we assume he never faced Shanks ?).
Well the Marines specifically said he clashed/had a skirmish with Shanks. Could be just the crews had a little clash though, and/or he realized going through Shanks first his crew would be too severely damaged to join the war even if they won. But yeah, my guess is only figures who’ve been relevant and seen/mentioned in this arc specifically are shown, for it to be more “focused” (if you get what I mean). Wouldn’t read too much into it.
 

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Well I do think Luffy's damage and RS damage are different, that's why he thinks about Luffy's damage. Luffy's damage reached a position where only a few were able to injure Kaido.

All 9 RS were able to reopen Oden's scar on Kaido. Luffy is able to injure him at the point where Kaido puts him on the same level as Roger, WB, Rocks, Oden (not Shank ? Can we assume he never faced Shanks ?).
I'm guessing he's never actually faced Shanks in a 1v1 battle. I'm pretty sure Shanks can hurt him like that. And Rayleigh as well most likely. And Garp. But he only sees who he's fought. And Luffy has reached that level (to the chagrin of many posters here lol)
 

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Bwahahahahahahhahaha

Show them who is the strongest! MUGIWARA!!!!!


Luffy having the shillouettes of Roger, Oden, and Rocks HAS to be the panel of the chapter!

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Tf you mean duh? Like Killer’s scythes ever seemed special.
People will argue that Zoro is nerfed because he doesn't have 3 swords, but won't argue someone is nerfed when they aren't fighting with their primary weapons. It was a huge double standard im glad Oda addressed.
 

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Well I do think Luffy's damage and RS damage are different, that's why he thinks about Luffy's damage. Luffy's damage reached a position where only a few were able to injure Kaido.

All 9 RS were able to reopen Oden's scar on Kaido. Luffy is able to injure him at the point where Kaido puts him on the same level as Roger, WB, Rocks, Oden (not Shank ? Can we assume he never faced Shanks ?).
I think Kaidou was specifically thinking about dead people.
 

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Finally we will be able to gauge some of the power levels and end some looping discussions.

Can we already say Luffy was stronger than Zoro? Referring to the Zoro never gave it all problem.
Also, there won't be any space left to this kind of argument. What Zoro shows here is Zoro's limit (not saying he will not surpass himself until the end of it. Because he will). But from his comment, it's evident he needed Enma to get stronger.
 

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So. law literally pull back luffy.. when he was fighting Kaido ..
i knew he was goin to be the brain on this battle...
he can swap people..at the last second.. as i say

like if zoro is just an inch to attack Kaido.. but he suddenly put him
in front of BM.. .or Bm using ikoku and teleport kaido in front of her attack

if i were some of those yonkos.. taking down Law and his swapping bullshit
would be the first order of the day

also is good to know .. zoro can cut homies.. tough this doesnt mean
he could dispatch thems.. according to the spoiler he first cut prometheus
but the daam thing.. keep spewing fireballs
 

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So. law literally pull back luffy.. when he was fighting Kaido ..
i knew he was goin to be the brain on this battle...
he can swap people..at the last second.. as i say

like if zoro is just an inch to attack Kaido.. but he suddenly put him
in front of BM.. .or Bm using ikoku and teleport kaido in front of her attack

if i were some of those yonkos.. taking down Law and his swapping bullshit
would be the first order of the day

also is good to know .. zoro can cut homies.. tough this doesnt mean
he could dispatch thems.. according to the spoiler he first cut prometheus
but the daam thing.. keep spewing fireballs
We already know Law can swap people at the last second.

The thing is, Law knows Luffy a lot, it doesn't mean he will be synch with Zoro and the others.

He can save them easily from an attack. But swap at the last moment to attack the other Yonko it may be tough.
 

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We already know Law can swap people at the last second.

The thing is, Law knows Luffy a lot, it doesn't mean he will be synch with Zoro and the others.

He can save them easily from an attack. But swap at the last moment to attack the other Yonko it may be tough.
..simply swapping yonkos as chess pieces.. it would be CRAZY OP ..

there must be some kind of bullshit incoming in witch he cant do it so easily
with thems... like something related to their haki or their will ...
 

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I'm glad Killer has more to show. While that piece of information changes absolutely nothing on his defeat to Zoro from a while back, Killer needed some sort of upgrade from what he showed there to justify why he's a supernova and why he's standing up there, and this was it.

I wonder how much he will achieve, though. He'll have to surpass his limits like Zoro will if he's to deal any significant damage before the battle is other, but unlike him and Luffy, we don't know of any special training he might have undergone. I could say the same about Kid and Law but since they're captains I guess that I just expect more out of them.
 
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